Walls and fences are ok again?

Aussie Pete said:

God is warning the USA and has been for decades.

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Citation needed.

Aldebaran said:

Remember back in the day when walls and fences were such a terrible thing? When Trump and the rest of us who care about border security wanted either a wall or fence along the USA/Mexico border, we were labeled as being hateful people who want to cause division. “Bridges, not walls” is what we were told we should want. But what happens on day one when Biden and the democrats have complete control? They build a razor wire fence around the National Mall in Washington DC, and they guard it with 25,000 military troops (Trump voters vetted out, of course), armed and ready to fire on American citizens if they dare get close to their new ruler. Not a very good indication of wanting unity, unless unity is the surrender of any political opposition. “No unity, no peace.”

Biden was correct when he said that America’s darkest days are ahead.

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And thank goodness they did or we would have your cohort of crazy nut-jobs with their faces painted and horns on their head, raiding the place and committing acts of violence and destruction.

Zoii said:

And thank goodness they did or we would have your cohort of crazy nut-jobs with their faces painted and horns on their head, raiding the place and committing acts of violence and destruction.

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I'd be more concerned about the organized groups playing soldier with real weapons and bad intentions.

Aldebaran said:

Remember back in the day when walls and fences were such a terrible thing? When Trump and the rest of us who care about border security wanted either a wall or fence along the USA/Mexico border, we were labeled as being hateful people who want to cause division. “Bridges, not walls” is what we were told we should want. But what happens on day one when Biden and the democrats have complete control? They build a razor wire fence around the National Mall in Washington DC, and they guard it with 25,000 military troops (Trump voters vetted out, of course), armed and ready to fire on American citizens if they dare get close to their new ruler. Not a very good indication of wanting unity, unless unity is the surrender of any political opposition. “No unity, no peace.”

Biden was correct when he said that America’s darkest days are ahead.

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What does one expect from the incoming administration? Peace? They have millions of angry Americans baying at their doors. I'm not even so sure the elections were legit anymore. It seems even antifa and the radical left are angry at them as well as the right.

Aldebaran said:

I see a Red Herring swimming under that ice.

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Hmm. I think youre the only one who can see him.

Aldebaran said:

Then I must be the only one who can actually see.
Actually, your entire post was a red herring.

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Was it?

Basically I was seeing you rely on a weird false premise that the left says fences are always bad. Its more of a golden mackerel than a red herring.

Aldebaran said:

That's just speculation. Biden's over-reaction and exploitation of the military simply pushed the false narrative that you just illustrated.

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Again, you seem to be confused about *when* Biden became president. (Hint: It was in the middle of his speech from the west side of the Capitol at 12:00 Noon on Wednesday, 20 January 2021.) The deployment of the NG and building of the fences occurred *before* Biden became president.

Aussie Pete said:

It may come to that. Sodom need not have been destroyed. God was prepared to spare Sodom on account of the righteous who lived there, which included Lot. The problem was that there were not enough righteous people. So Lot and his family left Sodom and the rest is history. The principle applies in this day and age. As the church in the USA becomes more an more like the world (yes, a generalisation) there are fewer people to protect the USA from God's judgement.

God is warning the USA and has been for decades. Donald Trump is simply a symptom of the problems besetting the US, not a cause. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see Joe Biden making any difference.

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So why is God also not "warning" China, Japan, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, or even Australia in similar ways?

Aldebaran said:

It clearly was not necessary. There were no rioters/insurrectionists who showed up. It was all just a big Police State show of force by Biden, who exploited the military to help his agenda.

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Aldebarn, do you think that the president-elect can override the president? Your timeline seems a bit confused....

Aldebaran said:

Walls and fences are ok again?

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Of course, and mail-in voting is not ok again. C'mon man, keep up

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DaisyDay said:

Aldebarn, do you think that the president-elect can override the president? Your timeline seems a bit confused....

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Weren't we told not too long ago that there was no such thing as a "President Elect"?

SimplyMe said:

So why is God also not "warning" China, Japan, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Great Britain, or even Australia in similar ways?

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Have you been to those places? Not recently, of course as the virus has stopped most air travel. "Great" Britain is no longer great. They are suffering terribly from a new strain of the virus. Scotland is threatening to secede. A not so United Kingdom. When I was there in 2016, I avoided London (where I was born) because of the violence and risk of terrorist attacks. The Muslim mayor said that Londoners should just get used to it. No thanks. COVID has at least emptied the streets so it's safer.

France has been wracked by violence. No nation has been spared the impact of COVID. That includes China. China is risking a great deal by attempting to bully its way to the top of the world pecking order. Businesses are already pulling out and relocating to Vietnam or Thailand. I have a great deal of respect for ordinary Chinese people. The government, not so much.

Australia suffers in different ways. We had a 12 year drought where I live. Christians finally got together and prayed. I subscribe to a movement that has 140,000 members who pray for his nation. The drought broke. We have dry spells as always, but nothing like it was. The nation was rid of an atheist PM and a Christian was elected. That is 100% a miracle in a nation where to be a Christian is a liability - unlike the USA. We do face threats. We are standing up to China and that has cost us. We are finding ways around China's bullying.

If anything, Australia is an example of God's people being able to turn things around through intercession and by being united. We still have big problems and I am not at all complacent. WW3 could start over Taiwan. We are way too dependent on seaways that China seeks to control.

I'm pretty sure that this is not how weather and climate work:

Aussie Pete said:

Australia suffers in different ways. We had a 12 year drought where I live. Christians finally got together and prayed. I subscribe to a movement that has 140,000 members who pray for his nation. The drought broke. We have dry spells as always, but nothing like it was.

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N.B., checked my related coursework... Nope, that's not how it works.

Aussie Pete said:

God is warning the USA and has been for decades.

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Well, since "god" has been supposedly warning humans for the past 3200 years (writing of the OT begins approximately 1200 BC) and we humans haven't morally changed much in that entire time, one questions whether "it" warning the US for decades is even worth mentioning.

Obviously, "it" isn't going to do much about the US not listening (to whatever warning you want "it" to send).

Hans Blaster said:

I'm pretty sure that this is not how weather and climate work:



N.B., checked my related coursework... Nope, that's not how it works.

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I checked my Bible. I'd ditch your coursework if I were you. It's wrong.