Are some prophecies happening today?

parousia70 said:

So you don't believe this ever gets literally fulfilled then?

Since 4-5 babies are born every second, and each then won't be able to hear and respond to the gospel for several years, you must not believe in a day that we will see the literal fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 meaning EVERY HUMAN during the WHOLE AGE, since every day an excess of 350,000 more new Human beings are born into this world who have not yet heard the Gospel, nor will be able to for several years..

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God’s Word can get out to newborns just as easily as adults.

Timtofly said:

God’s Word can get out to newborns just as easily as adults.

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Scripture?

Agallagher said:

Are some prophecies happening today?​

Can you, please listen to me for a moment?

From my own studies, and just trusting in faith in God. I just believe that last chapter of Revelation, has all people resurrected from the dead and all people who were going towards the light and faith in a loving and non-hating God. So that I am thankful for.

Though believing all prophecies to me have been fulfilled,
How about your do you believe that?
What type of beliefs do you believe that are still to be fuilled?

Please feel free to express your beliefs, already remember we are called to have freedom, freedom in Christ Jesus.

May the grace of God be with you alongside the joy, gentleness, love, mercy, forgiveness , forbearance, and spirt of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, !.

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Jesus' second advent.

TedT said:

Have we seen this yet?

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Absolutely.

In light of the fact that we have some verses in the Bible that tell us that the end times will bring some people (not all) a new or fuller understanding of God's Revelation, perhaps in a letter or other written form, might not this new revelation / understanding have the same weight as scripture?

Daniel 12:9 - And he said, Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

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I'm happy you began with the phrase "in light of the fact".

For I believe facts are facts, and all facts are fair.

Fact: Daniel was told to seal the vision for the time was "far off".
Fact: John was told not to seal the vision for the time was "near".

Fact: Its 500 years from Daniel to Christ, 2000 years from Christ to today.

question: How does 2500 years ="far off" but 2000 years = "Near"?

Micah 4:1,2 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the GOD of Jacob; and HE will teach us of HIS ways, and we will walk in HIS paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

How might this law and word go forth? Should we expect a speaker or prophet to tell us, "Thus sayeth the LORD," or maybe a letter like Paul's dissertation in Romans, or perhaps someone will write down a vision they saw?

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FACT: The Last days were already underway during Christ' earthly Ministry (Hebrews 1:1-2) and the last hour of the end of the ages had come upon the 1st century apostolic Generation. (1 John 2:18, 1 Corinthians 10:11)

These are Facts, and again, all Facts are fair.

Now check these facts out regarding the fulfillment of Micah 4 in the Apostolic Generation!:
Hebrews 12:22-24
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

The writer of Hebrews is providing us with the FACT that in those 1st century "last Days" at the "end of the age", the "Mountain of the house of the Lord" was indeed "established and exalted above the Hills" and "people were already "flowing into it".

This is a fact, and All Facts are Fair.

parousia70 said:

question: How does 2500 years ="far off" but 2000 years = "Near"?

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Because there are two ways of time measurement. Our way and God's way.
Our way is a day is one revolution of the earth.
God's way is the equivalent of a earth day in heaven, is the same as 1000 earth years. Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8

Daniels 'far off' timing was in earthly timing.
Johns 'near at hand' is God's timing.
Proved by the FACT that what John, actually Jesus; told us would happen, has not yet happened.

parousia70 said:

Scripture?

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2 Timothy 3:15
Matthew 19:14
Mark 10:14
Luke 18:16

keras said:

Because there are two ways of time measurement. Our way and God's way.
Our way is a day is one revolution of the earth.
God's way is the equivalent of a earth day in heaven, is the same as 1000 earth years. Psalms 90:4,

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Psalm 90:4 says 1000 earth years is equivalent to "a watch in the night" in Heaven.

How long is that?
We know for a fact a watch in the night on earth is less than 12 hours.

How long is it in heaven?

Timtofly said:

2 Timothy 3:15
Matthew 19:14
Mark 10:14
Luke 18:16

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So Matthew 24:14 is already been fulfilled then?

d taylor said:

That was when Israel became a country again, first time since God scattered them in the year 70 A.D.

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Yes for anything in Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, the minor prophets and Revelation to take place the Jews had to be back in their land which began that timeclock in 1948 with the latter or last days. Where we are right now in that final timeline in Revelation only God knows. Yes there are signs out there but that final 7 years has yet to come. There must be a 7 year Covenant of peace made between Israel and the nations which are now hostile towards them which begins the final 7 year tribulation period. We are still awaiting this world peace spoke of with that covenant.

hope this helps !!!

Agallagher said:

It seems that the faith of Christ Jesus had been spread through the entire known world back then.

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I think everyone may have heard of saving faith even before the creation of the physical world as the language of Col 1:23 can be read to support (not saying 'proves'): 23 if indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven... Our response to this proclamation of YHWH's deity and that salvation could only be found by faith in the Son could very well then have been the reason for some to become elect (if they put their faith in the proclamation as true) and others condemned for rejecting HIS proclamation as the lies of a false god.

which has been PROCLAIMED to every creature under heaven...or in all creation. If taken at face value this phrase implies that even those who never heard of YHWH or the gospel in their human life, heard / knew about the claims of the gospel but rejected it. No one can believe that every human heard of YHWH or Christ and the need for faith in all of human history, yet this verse implies this was indeed done. The word proclaimed is apparently in a past tense of a totally finished and completed act! There is no time when this could have happened except before the foundation of the world because it certainly was never fulfilled in this world.

Such is the sinfulness of this rejection that even when the Divinity and power of YHWH was displayed openly to everyone by the creation of the physical universe, Rom 1:18-20 with Job 38:7, they then returned to the lie of HIM being a false god and a liar because they loved sin more, Rom 1:20 to the end.

Agallagher said:

So the faith had been proclaimed to all the nations which Jesus Christ had commanded in the last chapter of Matthew.

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'Faith being proclaimed to al the nations' is not really the same as the gospel being proclaimed to every person in all of creation, is it?

What do you think the phrase in Col 1:23 means?

parousia70 said:

So Matthew 24:14 is already been fulfilled then?

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Not sure how you got to that point. You claim babies cannot understand.

Timtofly said:

Not sure how you got to that point. You claim babies cannot understand.

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And you claim they already do?

BobRyan said:

Why do you say that ?

Christ warns the church of it in Matt 24 and Paul warns the church about it in 2Thess 2

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The Thessalonians sure we're worried about it. If it was only Israel why were they concerned ?

Timtofly said:

This is not about the church, nor Christianity. Why do Christians think they have a part in Jacob's trouble? The church is not in the Tribulation, .

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Why do you say that ?

Christ warns the church of it in Matt 24 and Paul warns the church about it in 2Thess 2

Berean Tim said:

The Thessalonians sure we're worried about it. If it was only Israel why were they concerned ?

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Agreed - Paul tells the church to expect that tribulation to come first - and that any messages about "the second coming happened and you missed it" were false, according to 2 Thess 2.

So then Matt 24 gives signs.. that have happened already in many cases - and so does 2 Thess 2... but there are also signs and events in Matt 24 and in 2 Thess 2 that have not happened yet.

parousia70 said:

And you claim they already do?

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I was disclaiming your assertion they cannot. What is the point of education if a child cannot understand? Do you not provide any means of communicating thoughts to babies? Do you deprive babies of being able to use their senses?