Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

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This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

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"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


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The church should be faithful and witnessing no matter who is the president. Politics shouldn't drive faith or make the church concerned with their best interests angle. Jesus was offered political power and turned it down.
 
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This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

I'm just including part of the content here:
"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


BTW, to see the content without the "popup" mask. Just stop the download just before the page shows up. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again and stop it sooner. This works for all sites that load the full content and then follow that with a screen hiding "sign up" popup. Very useful. :)
That is an excellent article, so long as it is read in the understanding that "The Church" is much, much more than Evangelical Protestantism and the right-wing political agenda they are pushing.
 
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This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

I'm just including part of the content here:
"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


BTW, to see the content without the "popup" mask. Just stop the download just before the page shows up. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again and stop it sooner. This works for all sites that load the full content and then follow that with a screen hiding "sign up" popup. Very useful. :)
Maybe in the same way the catecombs were good for the early Church.
 
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This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

I'm just including part of the content here:
"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


BTW, to see the content without the "popup" mask. Just stop the download just before the page shows up. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again and stop it sooner. This works for all sites that load the full content and then follow that with a screen hiding "sign up" popup. Very useful. :)
Interesting. What changed the tide for Michael? Anyone know? I knew this long ago. Why did it take him, a leader of sorts, so long to figure out he was in a cult? Blessings.
 
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This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

I'm just including part of the content here:
"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


BTW, to see the content without the "popup" mask. Just stop the download just before the page shows up. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again and stop it sooner. This works for all sites that load the full content and then follow that with a screen hiding "sign up" popup. Very useful. :)
Welcome to CF!

Let me point out that the 'democratic platform', which I didn't even bother to read past some one or two sentence bit somewhere, always includes sops.

Sop -- "a thing given or done as a concession of no great value to appease someone whose main concerns or demands are not being met."
(definition from Oxford Languages)

Sops are in every platform to parts of the party that didn't get their candidate nominated.

In other words, the platform has a lot of stuff the nominated candidate absolutely never would do, has no intention of doing.

Just good to remember. We'll see all sorts of wrong accusations against Biden, no doubt, also.

But, welcome to CF, glad to see you here. I'll respond more to your real post in a moment.
 
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Interesting. What changed the tide for Michael? Anyone know? I knew this long ago. Why did it take him, a leader of sorts, so long to figure out he was in a cult? Blessings.
That's your takeaway?
Your powers of observation may be better than a lot of folks and you already figured out on your own what he was communicating here. I had already landed on some of it (I was no fan of Trump before the 2016 election) but I do think the author opened my eyes to some bad paths many of us were going down - and still go down regarding political figures. It has always given me the creeps seeing large crowds in second and third world countries carrying posters with pictures of a particular leader.

It is important to know that we need to put our trust in Christ, not other men. That being said, when a cop comes between me and a mugger, I put my trust in that cop to protect me as good gives him ability.
 
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Welcome to CF!

Let me point out that the 'democratic platform', which I didn't even bother to read past some one or two sentence bit somewhere, always includes sops.

Sop -- "a thing given or done as a concession of no great value to appease someone whose main concerns or demands are not being met."
(definition from Oxford Languages)

Sops are in every platform to parts of the party that didn't get their candidate nominated.

In other words, the platform has a lot of stuff the nominated candidate absolutely never would do, has no intention of doing.

Just good to remember. We'll see all sorts of wrong accusations against Biden, no doubt, also.

But, welcome to CF, glad to see you here. I'll respond more to your real post in a moment.
Yes. I'm 67 and have noticed that neither party ends up doing what the voters for the other party were afraid they would do, or their own voters hoped they would do. :)
 
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That's your takeaway?
Your powers of observation may be better than a lot of folks and you already figured out on your own what he was communicating here. I had already landed on some of it (I was no fan of Trump before the 2016 election) but I do think the author opened my eyes to some bad paths many of us were going down - and still go down regarding political figures. It has always given me the creeps seeing large crowds in second and third world countries carrying posters with pictures of a particular leader.

It is important to know that we need to put our trust in Christ, not other men. That being said, when a cop comes between me and a mugger, I put my trust in that cop to protect me as good gives him ability.
Again, welcome . I know Micheal Brown and his teachings very well. His words , this late in the game, comes at a surprise to me as he has already caused much damage to the Body of Christ.
For as many Christians who have put their faith in a man for four years there are equally as many that did not. Many of us who put our trust in Jesus Christ of Nazareth rather than a man are well represented on this forum. Thanks for engaging.
 
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I don't have any improvement to add to this particular article! (this is rare for me)

It even quotes some key scripture that is a great aid and comfort to us.

Amen!

While we should not assume Biden is adversarial until/unless and only after he actually does something adversarial (and if that happens, then only in regard to the actual thing(s) that did happen, and not to other other things that didn't happen)...

I just agree with the article generally. It's helpful.

Again, welcome to CF. Glad to have you here.


This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

I'm just including part of the content here:
"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


BTW, to see the content without the "popup" mask. Just stop the download just before the page shows up. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again and stop it sooner. This works for all sites that load the full content and then follow that with a screen hiding "sign up" popup. Very useful. :)
 
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Again, welcome . I know Micheal Brown and his teachings very well. His words , this late in the game, comes at a surprise to me as he has already caused much damage to the Body of Christ.
For as many Christians who have put their faith in a man for four years there are equally as many that did not. Many of us who put our trust in Jesus Christ of Nazareth rather than a man are well represented on this forum. Thanks for engaging.
I can put my faith in Jesus, while still hoping the electrician wiring my building does his job well - empowered by Christ, of course.

Thing is, as a Christian, I know that David was both an adulterer and a murderer, while also a man "After God's heart", and did his job well. So just because a person was a supporter of David, and trusted him to do his job well, it does not mean they put their faith in him. As a Christian, I don't put my faith in any man, even though I've supported the ACTIONS of many people I've hired who did a good job or did what they wanted to.

But at the end of the day it's important to know those men are, in fact, flawed men. And you put "ultimate" faith in them at your peril.
 
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It's always after a democrat becomes president that the evangelicals become wary of the political leaders.

Don't worry. You can go back to being the fanclub of the president once the next GOP candidate moves into the white house.
 
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Interesting. What changed the tide for Michael? Anyone know? I knew this long ago. Why did it take him, a leader of sorts, so long to figure out he was in a cult? Blessings.

Cult? Yawn.
 
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It's always after a democrat becomes president that the evangelicals become wary of the political leaders.

Don't worry. You can go back to being the fanclub of the president once the next GOP candidate moves into the white house.
What are you talking about in that last sentence?

Regarding your first sentence, I think you are correct about a lot of American subcultures. They look at the party platform of the opposing side that won and they get a bit of angst. The good news is that most politicians don't follow through on many promises, which is bad news for their supporters.
 
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If Trump did something wrong, who would tell you that you would believe them that Trump had done something wrong?
If I want to be up to date on when a politician does something wrong, I use sites that are hostile to him. The challenge, of course, is that they sometimes lose credibility by finding fault in everything, just as sites that support the same politician find no fault in anything.

This is why it's important to avail yourself to multiple information sources from multiple political bents. It's critical, actually. It's why the recent soviet style purge of conservative voices in social media is so disconcerting. If someone is full of baloney, they'll out themselves or be outed by dissenting voices. If you just silence them, you give them credibility and call your own credibility into question.

But that is a subject for a different thread...
 
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This is only my first day here, but I've already noticed that there is surprising interest in Politics. I prefer to leave my political beliefs to political sites, but this one crosses the line into the scope of this forum, IMO, and is interesting, so I thought I would share. It really does bring some useful thoughts, from a Christian perspective, to the recent election results in the US.

Why a Biden presidency could be good for the Church

I'm just including part of the content here:
"Like many of you reading this article, I voted for Donald Trump, which means I voted against Joe Biden. I have also written articles calling out the radical nature of the Democratic platform, drawing attention to Biden’s extreme, “transgender rights” position, and pointing to his continued shift to the left on abortion. And I have warned of the potential dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency.

Like many of you, I am deeply concerned about the direction America could be heading under a Biden-Harris administration, including potentially destructive dealings with China and Iran.

At the same time, I believe that the election of Joe Biden might be in the best interest of the Church of America.

How can I say such a thing?

Simply stated, it is because many of us Christian conservatives put too much trust in a man. (If you didn’t, fine. I said “many of us,” not all of us.)"


BTW, to see the content without the "popup" mask. Just stop the download just before the page shows up. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again and stop it sooner. This works for all sites that load the full content and then follow that with a screen hiding "sign up" popup. Very useful. :)

I told my wife I'd quit drinking completely if Biden won and set my cutoff for Jan. 1. Looks like I'm done with alcohol. 19 days completely without a drop.

I finally said enough is enough and found an in person Reformed church literally right down the street from me (just stumbled on it one Sunday when I was driving back from the grocery store). It's really good to finally be in a church that preaches the truth without sugar coating or dodging the Gospel. Sunday night theology discussions are exactly what I've been missing.
 
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If I want to be up to date on when a politician does something wrong, I use sites that are hostile to him. The challenge, of course, is that they sometimes lose credibility by finding fault in everything, just as sites that support the same politician find no fault in anything.

This is why it's important to avail yourself to multiple information sources from multiple political bents. It's critical, actually. It's why the recent soviet style purge of conservative voices in social media is so disconcerting. If someone is full of baloney, they'll out themselves or be outed by dissenting voices. If you just silence them, you give them credibility and call your own credibility into question.

But that is a subject for a different thread...

But there is no current Soviet style purge of the media. The Soviets used the power of the government to remove competing voices. We have free market capitalism in the United States. Nothing stops a business from refusing someone to use their platform to amplify their message and there is nothing stopping someone from building their own platform to amplify their message. That’s what Fox News did. They wanted a conservative news station so they built one.
 
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