Would you blame God for the inquisitions? He did say twice that He wants all men to be saved.
Where were "inquisitions" discussed by Christ in the NT?
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Would you blame God for the inquisitions? He did say twice that He wants all men to be saved.
You simply handwaved in a bogus claim (with no evidence whatsoever) that they had a criminal history. When I showed you at that not all of them have such a history, you accuse *me* of "exaggerating the truth"? Wow.
Where were "inquisitions" discussed by Christ in the NT?
I apologize but in my defense you only showed one example of a person who didn’t have a criminal history. You didn’t show anything about Jenna.
Were the riots discussed by Trump?
The fact I showed you one (now at least two) who didn't have a criminal history, what makes you think they all (or most) had a criminal history?
The various chant's like "stop the steal" came right from the lips of the insurrectionists.
Where do you figure these people got such ideas from anyway? Who told them (falsely) that the election was stolen, or that Mike Pence personally had the authority to overturn the elections which led to the "Hang Mike Pence" chants?
Their behavior.
So if I say we need to stop car theft and a group of people go around shooting car thieves then I’m responsible for the actions of these people?
In other words you have no actual evidence they had a previous arrest record anymore than Trump has evidence of wide spread voter fraud.
One is not able to prove a negative. The proof that needs to be presented is the proof that the remarks are what caused the riot.
For *months*, Trump and his congressional enablers have been falsely and maliciously claiming that there was wide spread voter fraud, in *spite* of failing to produce any such evidence in over 60 court cases.
You're intentionally *oversimplifying* the *long* series of nefarious events that led up to the riots.
For *months*, Trump and his congressional enablers have been falsely and maliciously claiming that there was wide spread voter fraud, in *spite* of failing to produce any such evidence in over 60 court cases.
Trump *personally* called for his supporters to come to Washington DC, on the 6th of January when the state certified electoral college votes were to be accepted by Congress, which is typically a mere formality. There was nothing anyone could legally do to overturn those results, particularly when the house was controlled by the Democrats. The whole concept of what Trump was asking for Pence to do was *unconstitutional*, illegal and seditious.
For weeks prior to the riots, Trump had been blatantly lying to his followers by suggesting that Mike Pence has the constitutional authority to overturn those results, when in fact he has *no such right* under the constitution. In fact, Pence didn't even have the opportunity to even cast any deciding votes in the matter, one way or another. In spite of the fact that Pence was one of Trumps most loyal supporters for more than four years, Trump intentionally put him in harms way by flat out lying to his soon to be riotous mob about Pence's ability to do anything about the final vote, resulting in chants to "Hang Mike Pence" and the erection of a makeshift gallows in front of the Capitol.
When Trump chose his "warm up speakers" at his "Save America" rally, he selected his *own personal lawyer* who specifically lied to the crowd about voter fraud, and stated that he wanted to see "trial by combat". The next speaker that Trump chose to speak told the crowd that he wanted them to go down to the Capitol and "kick ass".
Trump then spent the next *two hours* flat out lying to his deluded minions about a "stolen landslide election" and "voter fraud" and he told them to fight like hell or they wouldn't have a country left.
None of that nonsense was innocent, not even summoning his mob to DC on the 6th in the first place. There was *zero* possibility of overturning those election results on that day. None. Nothing he told the mob was even remotely true. It was all lies compounded upon lies, compounded upon more lies.
He then asked them to march down to the Capitol and that's when the riots began.
To now suggest that Trump is some sort of innocent victim in the resulting insurrection attempt is utter nonsense. Trump staged and facilitated the whole thing! Even 10 Republicans in the House have agreed that Trump personally incited sedition. It's not just *my* opinion, it's the collective bipartisan opinion of the House that Trump incited sedition.
What good could possibly have come from Trump summoning that mob to the Capitol that day? The only reason that Trump did that, and the only reason he has lied about the election results is because he's too narcissistic to admit being defeated in free and fair elections and he was trying *desperately* to hang on to power like a petty dictator. There was no possibility whatsoever that anything could or would change that day, *unless* of course the mob took things into their own hands and *violently overthrew* the government, which is exactly what they tried to do.
Your rationalizations are simply absurd IMO. There was nothing remotely innocent about Trumps lies and his repeated attempts to change the election results by *any means necessary*. Trump is a seditious traitor to this nation.
This whole fiasco is the result of people who don’t care about being honest, they just want to promote their agenda.
In short this has all been facilitated by a bunch of idiots on both sides who wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them and yet they talk as if they know something and continue spreading rumors and just flat out lies trying to discredit their opponents all the while discrediting themselves in the process for which they should all be ashamed.
All of this is irrelevant unless Trump actually gave orders to attack the capital building which we have zero evidence to support.
Your just as guilty as he is for making false accusations right now.
Nothing he said in any way shape or form made him responsible for the actions of a bunch of idiots who decided to go attack the capital building of their own accord....
which is why he will be acquitted because it doesn’t take a genius to see that so far there hasn’t been a single piece of conclusive evidence incriminating Trump for conspiring to or committing insurrection.
Until they find evidence that Trump clearly ordered or conspired with people to promote the attack nobody has the right to falsely accuse him of doing such. All you have presented is circumstantial evidence.
“I don’t feel a sense of shame or guilty from my heart. I feel like I was basically following my president. I was following what we were called to do. He asked us to fly there. He asked us to be there. So I was doing what he asked us to do,”
All of this is irrelevant unless Trump actually gave orders to attack the capital building which we have zero evidence to support. Your just as guilty as he is for making false accusations right now. Nothing he said in any way shape or form made him responsible for the actions of a bunch of idiots who decided to go attack the capital building of their own accord which is why he will be acquitted because it doesn’t take a genius to see that so far there hasn’t been a single piece of conclusive evidence incriminating Trump for conspiring to or committing insurrection. Until they find evidence that Trump clearly ordered or conspired with people to promote the attack nobody has the right to falsely accuse him of doing such. All you have presented is circumstantial evidence.
Actually, "circumstantial evidence" is perfectly good evidence, acceptable in every court of the land.
Look it up.
Can you link to, say, 10 bar room brawls which include a violent mob whipped up by the president attacking the US Capitol while Congress was certifying an election result the president contests?By your definition, most bar room brawls are "insurrections".
Is this an attempt to blame Democrats for the violence by telling the truth that the election wasn't stolen?I agree but I think both sides are equally at fault where one side seems to inflate the situation and the other seems to downplay it
Circumstantial evidence by itself is not enough to convict.
Jenna Ryan said:“I don’t feel a sense of shame or guilty from my heart. I feel like I was basically following my president. I was following what we were called to do. He asked us to fly there. He asked us to be there. So I was doing what he asked us to do,”