Thinkers you admire..

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Thought this would be a good place to share and exchange thinkers you admire.

I'll start with a few.

Karen Straughn: A professed Men's Rights Activist and critic of feminism. She helped me understand that as a man we face issues that need to be addressed too and how this is possible despite men currently and historically being in charge of society. I appreciate how she looks at gender issues through an evolutionary psychological lens. She is also one of the rare feminists critics I see incorporate neoteny into gender politics. Although she didn't introduce me to that concept. I also admire her rough demeanor. For most of her life she was a blue collar waitress on the edge of poverty who happened to possess a high IQ.

Other honorable mentions.. within that social circle.. Allison Tieman and Hannah Wallen.

Gad Saad: An evolutionary psychologist and professor. I enjoy his defenses of evolutionarily psychology and rants about post modernism and interesting takes on Islam and Arabic culture (his Jewish family fled a Civil war in Lebanon). I also admire how even though he's an academic he isn't afraid to use colorful language and converse with people other academics view as low brow and beneath them.

Matt Dillahunty: He helped me during my dark days when I first became an atheist. While I was already an atheist ever before I ever heard of him, he did help defog my mind and help me form new perspectives in my then new atheist reality.

Other honorable mentions.. within that social circle.. Jeff Dee, Russel Glasser and Tracie Harris.
 

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Albert Einstein - Where I have manipulated his E=mc2 formula as such...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma, the sun is the visible form of E/c2
Mental E/c2 - Our thinking can produce creativeness, light, and good things
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

The Natural E/c2 in the form of mass produces a gravity that attracts other objects
The Intellectual E/c2 produces a gravity that draws us to study
The Spiritual E/c2 also has a gravity that draws us to that which we consider spiritual

Comparing the light and the darkness, the opposite of E/c2 would be z (absolute zero)/ d (darkness)...

Natural z/d - Nothing, empty space.
Mental z/d - Again nothing but empty space.
Spiritual z/d - z (laziness, coldness, hatred) / d (fear, despair, greed, sorrow)

There are spiritual influences in this life that have great impact on the minds ability to process ideas. Einstein himself said...

"The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is not a problem of physics, but of ethics. It is easier to denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man. What frightens us is not the explosive power of the atom bomb, but the equally explosive powers of human personalities.

"Man's skills have outstripped his morals. His engineering has leaped ahead of his wisdom. We cannot cancel or call back his scientific advance, but we can and must, if the world is to survive, help man to catch up. In God's name, if you still believe in God ... We must somehow get control of what science has given the world, or else we shall perish." - Albert Einstein
 
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Who we call great thinkers is very subjective and depends on our personal biases. I read that in an article not too long ago. What makes a person a great thinker? Do we have a measuring stick to go by?
 
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Who we call great thinkers is very subjective and depends on our personal biases. I read that in an article not too long ago. What makes a person a great thinker? Do we have a measuring stick to go by?

Well this thread is about thinkers you personally admire. I'm sure some will list ones I find absolutely awful.. and others will feel the same for some of the people I admire, lol.
 
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Who we call great thinkers is very subjective and depends on our personal biases. I read that in an article not too long ago. What makes a person a great thinker? Do we have a measuring stick to go by?
It's kind of funny, I read the thread and didn't even consider the idea of great thinkers. There are many thinkers that I consider great but in no way admire, then there are thinkers that I admire but in no way consider particularly great(though the only one who immediately comes to mind in this category is Francis of Assissi). In a sense, every statement is subjective because the full import of a word always has some ambiguity and variance from person to person.
 
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It's kind of funny, I read the thread and didn't even consider the idea of great thinkers. There are many thinkers that I consider great but in no way admire, then there are thinkers that I admire but in no way consider particularly great(though the only one who immediately comes to mind in this category is Francis of Assissi). In a sense, every statement is subjective because the full import of a word always has some ambiguity and variance from person to person.
To consider someone a great thinker I think one has to either find some edification or commonality with the thinker one admires. So it is very subjective imo. Not everyone is going to agree. There are some that are called great thinkers I just consider blow hards or somewhat deranged.
 
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To consider someone a great thinker I think one has to either find some edification or commonality with the thinker one admires. So it is very subjective imo. Not everyone is going to agree. There are some that are called great thinkers I just consider blow hards or somewhat deranged.
Somewhat speaks to your point of the subjectivity, since for me considering a thinker great simply has to do with their intelligence and impactfulness. The Marquis De Sade, for example, was extremely intelligent and impactful so I would consider him a great thinker. Yet I find everything he wrote about distasteful in the full. The same can be said for Plato and Aristotle for me, where i recognize them as great thinkers but agree on them with little and have no real admiration for them. So the range of "great thinkers" and "admirable thinkers" is not necessarily the same thing in my mind.
 
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It's kind of funny, I read the thread and didn't even consider the idea of great thinkers. There are many thinkers that I consider great but in no way admire, then there are thinkers that I admire but in no way consider particularly great(though the only one who immediately comes to mind in this category is Francis of Assissi). In a sense, every statement is subjective because the full import of a word always has some ambiguity and variance from person to person.

I still admire thinkers I disagree with or even hate if they contribute original thoughts.
 
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I still admire thinkers I disagree with or even hate if they contribute original thoughts.
I don't particularly value intelligence for intelligence's sake, so admiration for me is more of a holistic question. I certainly recognize them for making contributions and recognize their acumen, but more often than not many of the people who are traditionally great thinker have fatal flaws that exclude them from being personally admirable to me. The Marquis De Sade and Voltaire are the two biggest examples that jump to my mind of intellectuals whose lives and content of their of their thoughts exclude admiration.
 
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I don't particularly value intelligence for intelligence's sake, so admiration for me is more of a holistic question. I certainly recognize them for making contributions and recognize their acumen, but more often than not many of the people who are traditionally great thinker have fatal flaws that exclude them from being personally admirable to me. The Marquis De Sade and Voltaire are the two biggest examples that jump to my mind of intellectuals whose lives and content of their of their thoughts exclude admiration.

While I don't know your inner thoughts.. I guess I'd be surprised if a little admiration wasn't there.

Funny thought I thought of including the Marquis De Sade. He's vile and whatnot.. but I did appreciate how in many ways he was way ahead of his time.
 
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