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And to this point, you are just one more New Covenant denier.
Does 2 Corinthians 3:6 apply to you?
2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
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I do not deny that there will be a new Covenant between the Lord and his faithful people. We just hasn't come to the right time for it yet.
We know this from how the results of it; as per Hebrews 8:10-12 are not yet in effect.
Believing they have, is in the realms of fantasy and being self deceived..
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I'm not avoiding anything. What do you mean when you reference the future results of the NC? We are saved spiritually now. We look forward to having immortal bodies and inheriting the eternal new earth in the future. But, that doesn't mean the new covenant isn't in effect now. It is the means by which our sins are forgiven. Are our sins not yet forgiven?
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Not according to prophecy.
I meant the list of six results of the new Covenant, as Hebrews 8:10-12.
None of them are fully in operation, we have the Promise of forgiveness of our sins, but as we continue to sin, inadvertently or knowingly, it isn't a continuing process. It will be a once'r, an event when Jesus is revealed to us, 2 Thessalonians 1:10, Revelation 14:1, and we promise to keepour side of the Covenant.
This is proved by Daniel 11:32, where some Christians are prophesied to violate the Covenant when the leader of the World Govt comes to us and makes a 7 year peace treaty with us. Also prophesied in Isaiah 28:14-15
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Not according to your prophecy.
According to Scripture's prophecy.
We have the actual forgiveness.
All past and present tenses below.
Through His Blood of His Completely Fulfilled New Covenant.
An undecapitated Covenant.
Completely intact from Head to Toe.
God doesn't traffic in decapitated covenants.
Ephesians 1:7
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Colossians 1:14
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Colossians 2:13
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
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About the worst and most wrong reply I have seen yet.
I have posted the scriptures that prove the new Covenant will be made when the Lord's faithful people are living in the holy Land, you ignored them, to your discredit.
Ezekiel 34:25 I shall make a Covenant with them for their peace and prosperity....
Isaiah 61:8..... I will grant them a sure reward and make an everlasting Covenant with them.
Isaiah 59:20-21 The Lord will come as a Redeemer to Zion and to those descended from Jacob who repent of their rebellion. This is the Covenant I will make with them: My Spirit will abide with them thru all the following generations.
Jeremiah 32:37-40 I shall gather My people from all the lands where they now live......I will make and everlasting Covenant with them, it will be a joy for Me to do them good.
Ezekiel 37:26 [After the Spiritual regeneration and the rejoining of the tribes] I shall make an everlasting Covenant with them, for their peace and prosperity and their numbers will greatly increase. I will put My Sanctuary in their midst, where it will remain for all time.
As we know from prophesies like Zechariah 9:9, Bible tenses do not mean past, present or future, only that we can be assured it WILL happen.
The new Covenant will happen when we are one people in the holy Land. Until then we must continue to pray .....forgive our sins, as we forgive those who have sinned against us....Matthew 6:12
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OT Hebrew does not have tenses.
NT Greek does.
And we see past and present only in the Scriptures I cited.
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This is grasping at straws!
Just a way of avoiding the truths of the prophesies I posted that prove the new Covenant will be made when the Lord's faithful people come together in the holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-31 tells about this time and verse 25 says:
I shall make a Covenant with them for their peace and safety......
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The Fulfilled Blood and the Fulfilled New Covenant do not grasp at straws.
Only those who attempt to deny them do.
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Well, I am in good company; Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, all tell us the Lord will make a Covenant with His People, when they are living in the holy Land. For now we await our great Exodus to there. Psalms 107, Isaiah 35
Why is this truth unacceptable to you?
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What truth are you referring to? You are so lacking in spiritual discernment that you can't even recognize that the blood of Christ established the new covenant long ago already. We are saved and have the forgiveness of sins by way of that covenant made long ago.
That you think the new covenant is not even in effect yet is just shocking and very disturbing to me. This is a Christian fundamental belief that you have no understanding of at all, apparently. It's just unbelievable to me that you have no understanding of the new covenant. Maybe a more careful reading of the book of Hebrews would help. Try it.
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As the future unfolds, I can assure you that being shocked and disturbed will be the lot of all who haven't understood what the Lord's plans are for us.
Explain how the Lord can make a Covenant will a scattered people, as the Christians are now and have been thru the age?
The new Covenant awaits the day when we go to live in our new nation of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-12
Is it not possible for you to address the prophesies I gave that prove this?
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There is only one flock and one shepherd (Jn 10:16), only one people of God, the Church, which includes both OT and NT saints (Heb 12:22-23). The Church ("called-out assembly") began with Abraham and is the continuation and fulfillment of the OT Church (Eph 2:16-18; Heb 11:39-40).
Gentiles are heirs of the promises with Israel (Eph 3:6), members together of one body, the one olive tree (Ro 11:16-17),
and sharers together in the promise to Abraham through Christ Jesus (Gal 3:16, 29; 2Co 1:20).
Israel's destiny, IF they believe, is to be grafted back into its own olive tree, the NT Church (Ro 11:23),
the Bride of the Lamb, the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:9-14).
God's single purpose for all time and history is the Church, to prepare a bride for his only Son, who bought her with his blood.
The NT Church is the mystery which was hidden in the riddles (dark sayings, Nu 12:6-8) of OT prophecies (Ge 22:18; Is 42:6; Jer 31:31-34;
Am 9:11-12; Hos 1:6-10, 2:23)* but is now revealed; i.e., the Gentiles are now included with Israel in God's one olive tree, the Church--whose roots are the OT patriarchs (Ro 11:16), where Christ is head over (governs) everything for the sake of the Church (Eph 1:22, 5:23; Mic 5;
Pr 13:22, 21:18; Eccl 2:26).
*see Gal 3:8; Lk 2:32; Heb 8:6-13, 10:16; Ac 15:13-18; 1Pe 2:10; Ro 9:24-25.
The Church is Gods new creation, transcending his original creation (2Co 5:17; Gal 6:15). It is the showcase of his wisdom (Eph 3:10-11), the crown jewel of his universe (Rev 21:9-11), his personal inheritance, treasure, portion (Eph 1:18; Ex 19:5; Dt 7:6 26:18, 32:9; Ps 33:12, 28:9, 74:2; Mal 3:17; Rev 22:12), the fulfillment of the ages (1Co 10:11), the last times and end of the ages (1Pe 1:20; Heb 1:2, 9:26).
God has no other plan in time than his Church, and has revealed no other plan for his Church.
When the Church, the Bride of his Son (Eph 5:31-32), has been prepared and is ready to be presented to the Bridegroom, he will come for her, and the curtain of time and history will come down, the end will come, time will be no more, and the Ruler from Bethlehem (Mic 5:2) will hand over the Kingdom (the Church) to God the Father (1Co 15:24, 28).
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“But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies” (2 Peter 2:1).
Remember that though the false teaching we may have to face today might be different in its specific expression, all false teachers commonly deny biblical authority in some way and often promote aberrational eschatological and ethical views.
Destructive Heresies
Remember that though the false teaching we may have to face today might be different in its specific expression, all false teachers commonly deny biblical authority in some way and often promote aberrational eschatological and ethical views.
Destructive Heresies
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Those who interpret Bible Prophecy, are part of the current generation which is mainly corrupt and ungodly. [as in the days of Noah]
They try to convince us that the cumulative research over the last century now yields a better understanding of the things of God. Conversely, our ancient Scriptures themselves do not say there will be an increase in understanding and discernment during the end times. The Bible prophets say that many will be deceived and will follow false teachings and only a few will understand. Daniel 12:10
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. 1 Cor 3:18-20
Matthew 11:25 I thank You, Father for hiding the truth from the wise and revealing it to the simple.
At the time of Jesus, the people the Lord selected to preserve His Word for the rest of human kind failed to understand God’s plan and were deceived to the degree that they arrange to brutally execute the Son of God who loved them.
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Isaiah 53:3
Instead of telling us that mankind will progressively draw near to God because of our ability to assimilate and wisely apply knowledge to our circumstances, the Word of God tells us the Christians will repeat the ancient sin of Israel, and embrace lies.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-10 For this cause, God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….because they received not the love of the truth.
Theological error isn’t random. In this regard, the Greek word in our New Testament, rendered delusion, and it is the Lord Himself who delivers that delusion to those He deems appropriate.
This means it is a deluding error, which the Lord Himself sends, to those who want - no: who demand God to remove them, before any holy discipline; Hebrews 12:4-13 and they reject the Spirit of humbleness which would draw them to the truth.
This fulfils an Old Testament prophecy, which is in the context of the end times:
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did evil before My eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Isaiah 66:4
The reason the Lord places a delusion upon people, is because they practice insincere worship and maintain wrong doctrines, Jeremiah 4:22, Isaiah 58:1-7 and have confused themselves by believing fiction and false teachings. Isaiah 29:9-12, 2 Timothy 4:3-4
They try to convince us that the cumulative research over the last century now yields a better understanding of the things of God. Conversely, our ancient Scriptures themselves do not say there will be an increase in understanding and discernment during the end times. The Bible prophets say that many will be deceived and will follow false teachings and only a few will understand. Daniel 12:10
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. 1 Cor 3:18-20
Matthew 11:25 I thank You, Father for hiding the truth from the wise and revealing it to the simple.
At the time of Jesus, the people the Lord selected to preserve His Word for the rest of human kind failed to understand God’s plan and were deceived to the degree that they arrange to brutally execute the Son of God who loved them.
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Isaiah 53:3
Instead of telling us that mankind will progressively draw near to God because of our ability to assimilate and wisely apply knowledge to our circumstances, the Word of God tells us the Christians will repeat the ancient sin of Israel, and embrace lies.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-10 For this cause, God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….because they received not the love of the truth.
Theological error isn’t random. In this regard, the Greek word in our New Testament, rendered delusion, and it is the Lord Himself who delivers that delusion to those He deems appropriate.
This means it is a deluding error, which the Lord Himself sends, to those who want - no: who demand God to remove them, before any holy discipline; Hebrews 12:4-13 and they reject the Spirit of humbleness which would draw them to the truth.
This fulfils an Old Testament prophecy, which is in the context of the end times:
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did evil before My eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Isaiah 66:4
The reason the Lord places a delusion upon people, is because they practice insincere worship and maintain wrong doctrines, Jeremiah 4:22, Isaiah 58:1-7 and have confused themselves by believing fiction and false teachings. Isaiah 29:9-12, 2 Timothy 4:3-4
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The truth speaks for itself and is heavily corroborated. It doesn't need explained away.
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More on the New Covenant for the unconvinced as I agree with SpiritualJew:
The Old Covenant instituted on Mt Sinai was intended for all the people of Israel: Ex 24:8; Rom 9:6b
Rom 9:6 - "For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel,
Ex 24:8 - "And Moses took the blood and threw it upon the people, and said, "Behold the blood of the covenant which the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words."
Ex 24:8 - "And Moses took the blood and threw it upon the people, and said, "Behold the blood of the covenant which the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words."
The promise of a New Covenant: (Eze 34:25; 37:26; Is 55:3; Jer 32:40 et al)
Eze 34:25 - "I will make with them a Covenant of Peace ..."
Eze 37:26 - "I will make a Covenant of Peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will bless them and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. (Jesus was intended to be the "sanctuary" (naos-Gk)
Isa 55:3 - Incline your ear, and come to me; hear, that your soul may live; and I will make with you an everlasting covenant, my steadfast, sure love for David.
Jer 32:40 - I will make with them an everlasting covenant, that I will not turn away from doing good to them; and I will put the fear of me in their hearts, that they may not turn from me.
Eze 37:26 - "I will make a Covenant of Peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will bless them and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. (Jesus was intended to be the "sanctuary" (naos-Gk)
Isa 55:3 - Incline your ear, and come to me; hear, that your soul may live; and I will make with you an everlasting covenant, my steadfast, sure love for David.
Jer 32:40 - I will make with them an everlasting covenant, that I will not turn away from doing good to them; and I will put the fear of me in their hearts, that they may not turn from me.
The Ordinance of the Lord's Supper instituted and the New Covenant to be fulfilled within hours:
Luk 22:19 - And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." And likewise the cup after supper, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the New Covenant in my blood." (Mt 26:29 - "I shall not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."
The bread of the Old Covenant was always "unleavened" bread. BUT, when the bread of the Last Supper was used by Jesus, it was "leavened" [artos] bread - indicating that it was confirmation of his fulfillment of the New Covenant when he had risen from the grave.
The confirmation:
Jhn 21:9-20 - "When they got out on land, they saw a charcoal fire there, with fish lying on it, and bread. Jesus came and took the bread and gave it to them, and so with the fish." The "bread" on the beach was the living everlasting "bread of life"; of which was a confirmation that the New Covenant was now in force!
I added because I forgot to include verses after the gospel accounts:
Peter confirmed the New Covenant in the book of Acts:
Act 3:25 - "You are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant which God gave to your fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your posterity shall all the families of the earth be blessed.'
The Apostle Paul:
2Co 3:14 ~ But their minds were hardened; for to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.
Hebrews
Heb 8:6 ~ But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry which is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises.
Heb 8:13 ~ In speaking of a New Covenant he treats the first [old] as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 9:15 ~ Therefore [Jesus] is the mediator of a New Covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred which redeems them from the transgressions under the first covenant.
Heb 9:18 ~ Hence even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood. {To paraphrase it; "The New Covenant WAS INAUGURATED with blood.}
Heb 10:29 ~ How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the man who has spurned the Son of God, and profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace?
Heb 8:13 ~ In speaking of a New Covenant he treats the first [old] as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 9:15 ~ Therefore [Jesus] is the mediator of a New Covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred which redeems them from the transgressions under the first covenant.
Heb 9:18 ~ Hence even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood. {To paraphrase it; "The New Covenant WAS INAUGURATED with blood.}
Heb 10:29 ~ How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the man who has spurned the Son of God, and profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace?
Rev 11:19 ~ Then God's temple [naos/spiritual] in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his [naos/spiritual] temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail.
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary on Luke 22:19-20
"The Lord's supper is a sign or memorial of Christ already come, who by dying delivered us; his death is in special manner set before us in that ordinance, by which we are reminded of it. The breaking of Christ's body as a sacrifice for us, is therein brought to our remembrance by the breaking of bread. Nothing can be more nourishing and satisfying to the soul, than the doctrine of Christ's making atonement for sin, and the assurance of an interest in that atonement. Therefore we do this in remembrance of what He did for us, when he died for us; and for a memorial of what we do, in joining ourselves to him in an Everlasting Covenant. The shedding of Christ's blood, by which the atonement was made, is represented by the wine in the cup.
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