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This vision has everything to do with Daniel 9:27:

Dan 9:27
(27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

You need to understand what is the daily sacrifice and the abomination of desolation is. It is CHRIST who have confirmed a covenant with His People, Elect (Congregation Israel). Christ went before God the Father with His sacrifice EVERY DAY on the behalf of His people who He is saving every day since the Cross through the testimony of the church (Two Witnesses). This is what our great commission is all about. Once Christ has secured all of Elect He intended to seal has been sealed, (Revelation 7:1-4), He will cause the sacrifice and the oblation for the purpose of salvation to CEASE! In another word, not only that the salvation has ended, but He also loosened Satan from the bottomless Pit to use him as a judgment upon His UNFAITHFUL congregation where the abomination of desolation is being set up.

Only those with spiritual understanding will be able to understand and see this being fulfilled in the church worldwide today, while those who are blind will be busy looking for fulfillment in the Middle East not able to see the true signs of Christ's return.
 
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Keep reading Douggg;
Daniel 8:18-22 explains that vision of Daniel 8:1-14 is about Alexander the Great and the four kingdoms that followed him.
Antiochus 4 E, was the 'little horn', who stopped the offering for 2300 evenings and mornings; that is 1150 days, the exact period that Maccabees tells us happened; circa 167-164 BC. Fulfilled prophecy!

Daniel 8:17...the vision points to the time of the end. REBible.
It was a pointer to what will happen; NOT the confusing and erroneous way the KJV puts it.

However; from Daniel 8:23-29, the vision is for days far ahead.
Referring to the 'beast' leader of the One World Govt, who will have power for just 42 months, Revelation 13:5.
2300 half days, full days or years, however way you put it, simply doesn't fit anywhere in the end times just before Jesus returns.

Sorry, God did not talk about Alexander the Great or Antiochus. Not about national Israel or your one-man ruler fantasy running world government or anything like that. Not at all. You need to remember that the 2,300 evenings and mornings are SYMBOLIC of the Great Tribulation Period! From the time when Satan was loosened from Bottomless Pit to sanctuary being cleaned. Could it not be the period of death of the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11? Also, what do you believe that sanctuary (church) being cleansed represents? Maybe you need to read Matthew 24 again and ask for God's wisdom:

Matthew 24:21-26
  • "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
  • And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
  • Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
  • For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
  • Behold, I have told you before.
  • Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
2,300 is a period of Satan's rule in an unfaithful congregation where God's Elect can "see" and flee from her. That is why Christ warned us that when "WE" "SEE" the abomination of desolation stand where it is not supposed to (ie. within God's New Testament congregation), we are to flee to avoid God's plagues upon the unfaithful! That is when the sanctuary is cleansed! Selah!

Something to think about.
 
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Keep reading Douggg;
Daniel 8:18-22 explains that vision of Daniel 8:1-14 is about Alexander the Great and the four kingdoms that followed him.
Antiochus 4 E, was the 'little horn', who stopped the offering for 2300 evenings and mornings; that is 1150 days, the exact period that Maccabees tells us happened; circa 167-164 BC. Fulfilled prophecy!

Daniel 8:17...the vision points to the time of the end. REBible.
It was a pointer to what will happen; NOT the confusing and erroneous way the KJV puts it.

However; from Daniel 8:23-29, the vision is for days far ahead.
Referring to the 'beast' leader of the One World Govt, who will have power for just 42 months, Revelation 13:5.
2300 half days, full days or years, however way you put it, simply doesn't fit anywhere in the end times just before Jesus returns.
There are no 42 months in Daniel 8.

Daniel 8:17 is a pointer to "when" the vision of the little horn's stoppage of the daily sacrifice, the transgression of desolation, and the temple cleansed, all within a 2300 day segment - will take place.

And the "king of fierce countenance" in Daniel 8:23 is the little horn person. Corresponding as the same little horn person "who's look is more stout" than his fellows in Daniel 7:20. king of fierce countenance = who's look is more stout. little horn in Daniel 8 = little horn in Daniel 7.

His fellows are the other ten horns (kings) which the little horn person comes up among, and are the transgressors in Daniel 8:23.

At the time of the end, when those ten kings are in place (come to a full in Daniel 8:23) the little horn person "stands up" - an idiom for prepares to go to war. He "stands up" when Gog/Magog appears imminent - the starting point of the seven years on the "infallible" timeline framework in Ezekiel 39.
 
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17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

Context, context, context...


Dan 8:15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
Dan 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
Dan 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
Dan 8:18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
Dan 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
Dan 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Dan 8:22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

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Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
"their kingdom" in Daniel 7 is the end times fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire, i.e. the EU.

And the "king of fierce countenance" in Daniel 8:23 is the little horn person. Corresponding as the same little horn person "who's look is more stout" than his fellows in Daniel 7:20. king of fierce countenance = who's look is more stout. little horn in Daniel 8 = little horn in Daniel 7.

His (the little horn's) fellows are the other ten horns (kings) which the little horn person comes up among, and are the transgressors in Daniel 8:23. They are the one's leading the nations which will occupy Jerusalem in Revelation 11:2 for 42 months - all within the 2300 day timeframe in Daniel 8.

At the time of the end, when those ten kings are in place (come to a full in Daniel 8:23) the little horn person "stands up" - an idiom for prepares to go to war. He "stands up" when Gog/Magog appears imminent - the starting point of the seven years on the "infallible" timeline framework in Ezekiel 39.
 
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"their kingdom" in Daniel 7 is the end times fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire, i.e. the EU.

And the "king of fierce countenance" in Daniel 8:23 is the little horn person. Corresponding as the same little horn person "who's look is more stout" than his fellows in Daniel 7:20. king of fierce countenance = who's look is more stout. little horn in Daniel 8 = little horn in Daniel 7.

His (the little horn's) fellows are the other ten horns (kings) which the little horn person comes up among, and are the transgressors in Daniel 8:23. They are the one's leading the nations which will occupy Jerusalem in Revelation 11:2 for 42 months - all within the 2300 day timeframe in Daniel 8.

At the time of the end, when those ten kings are in place (come to a full in Daniel 8:23) the little horn person "stands up" - an idiom for prepares to go to war. He "stands up" when Gog/Magog appears imminent - the starting point of the seven years on the "infallible" timeline framework in Ezekiel 39.


Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.


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Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.


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The vision of the little horn (who is not Antiochus) and the 2300 days in Daniel 8 is for the time of the end.
 
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The vision of the little horn (who is not Antiochus) and the 2300 days in Daniel 8 is for the time of the end.

The above comes from you, and your attempts to make your man-made doctrine work.

The words of the angel Gabriel recorded in the Word of God say otherwise.

Either Gabriel was confused, or you are confused.

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If you have to ignore the rest of the passage to make your viewpoint work, what are you really proving?


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Make an argument from the text itself, instead of an ambiguous accusation.
 
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The summary found in Daniel 9:24 has been fulfilled by the Messiah Jesus Christ, as found below in the New Testament.


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

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your attempt at proving this fails as the correlations you make are not focused on the pre qualifying issue regarding the 6 things that are to be accomplished in the 70 7's. That is Daniels people and the holy city which would be Jews and Jerusalem. The futurist view paint a graphic before and after picture of the tribulation that has these two as the center of this accomplishment.

Jer 3
16 “Then it shall come to pass, when you are multiplied and increased in the land in those days,” says the LORD, “that they will say no more, ‘The ark of the covenant of the LORD.’ It shall not come to mind, nor shall they remember it, nor shall they visit it, nor shall it be made anymore.
17 “At that time Jerusalem shall be called The Throne of the LORD, and all the nations shall be gathered to it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem. No more shall they follow the dictates of their evil hearts.
18 “In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given as an inheritance to your fathers.


Zech 8 speaks of this day as well.

Joel 3 is speaking of the tribulation and it notes that God will acquit them of bloodshed whom He had not acquitted before and a deliverance for Israel so strong that no alien will pass through her again is promised.

The verses in Jer 31 right after the promised new covenant note that Israel will not cease to be a nations nor would god cut off their seed for all they have done. Then it notes Jerusalem will need to be rebuilt when the dead bodies fill the valleys and from that time on it will Holy and never thrown down again.


Here is Joel 3
4 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision!
For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
15 The sun and moon will grow dark,
And the stars will diminish their brightness.
16 The LORD also will roar from Zion,
And utter His voice from Jerusalem;
The heavens and earth will shake;
But the LORD will be a shelter for His people,
And the strength of the children of Israel.
17 “So you shall know that I am the LORD your God,
Dwelling in Zion My holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem shall be holy,
And no aliens shall ever pass through her again.”

Now the futurist view of Dan 9 is spot on with the focus of Daniels people and the Holy city. Even Jer 31 agrees withe futurist and if you connect chapter 30 you will see that the day of Jacobs trouble is that day where the dead bodies fill the valleys.
 
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Now the futurist view of Dan 9 is spot on with the focus of Daniels people and the Holy city. Even Jer 31 agrees withe futurist and if you connect chapter 30 you will see that the day of Jacobs trouble is that day where the dead bodies fill the valleys.


The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America. What was their understanding of Daniel 9:27? Did they believe the “covenant with the many” in Daniel 9:27 is the “covenant with the many” in Matthew 26:28, which is the New Covenant? Did the angel Gabriel appear to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?

The following comes from the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible.

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Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27

And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.


(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.


(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.


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During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)

Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.


Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”.


Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below?


Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV)


Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews?


We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.


Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled.


Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below?


Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.

Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'


Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below?


Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16.


Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels?


How did Peter address the crowd on the Day of Pentecost when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?


Act 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."


We know there was a time period between Calvary and Paul’s conversion, because he held the coats of those who stoned Stephen. Since Pentecost was almost 2 months after Christ died at Calvary, we know a time period of several months may have occurred before Paul came to faith in Christ.


What did Paul say below about the time period between his conversion and the day he went to see Peter?


Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.


In the passage above the Apostle Paul reveals there was a time period of about 3 years between the time of his conversion and the time he went to see Peter. Therefore, we know Paul did not start preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles until at least three years after his conversion.


Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews, before Paul began preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles?


3 ½ years during the earthly ministry of Christ

(Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38)


Several months between Christ’s death and Paul’s conversion


3 years between Paul’s conversion and the time he went to see Peter.

(Galatians 1:14-18)


If the time periods above are added up we get a total time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Therefore, a New Covenant understanding of Daniel chapter 9 reveals the 70th week of Daniel occurred during the first century.


Did the sacrifices cease in the middle of the week, (after about 3 ½ years), when Christ died at Calvary? Why did God rip the temple veil in half at the moment Christ died? Even though the Jews continued to sacrifice animals after Calvary, were those sacrifices accepted by God? The answer to these questions can be found in the Book of Hebrews. Was Christ the final sacrifice for sin in Hebrews 10:16-18, in fulfillment of the New Covenant?


Very few modern Christians have ever heard the New Covenant interpretation of Daniel 9:27, which is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible.


In the YouTube message below Kelly Varner presents a New Covenant interpretation of Daniel chapter 9.


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The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America. What was their understanding of Daniel 9:27? Did they believe the “covenant with the many” in Daniel 9:27 is the “covenant with the many” in Matthew 26:28, which is the New Covenant? Did the angel Gabriel appear to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?

The following comes from the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible.

………………………………………………………………


Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27

And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.


(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.


(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.


………………………………………………………………………………


During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)

Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.


Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”.


Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below?


Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV)


Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews?


We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.


Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled.


Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below?


Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.

Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'


Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below?


Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16.


Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels?


How did Peter address the crowd on the Day of Pentecost when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?


Act 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."


We know there was a time period between Calvary and Paul’s conversion, because he held the coats of those who stoned Stephen. Since Pentecost was almost 2 months after Christ died at Calvary, we know a time period of several months may have occurred before Paul came to faith in Christ.


What did Paul say below about the time period between his conversion and the day he went to see Peter?


Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.


In the passage above the Apostle Paul reveals there was a time period of about 3 years between the time of his conversion and the time he went to see Peter. Therefore, we know Paul did not start preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles until at least three years after his conversion.


Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews, before Paul began preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles?


3 ½ years during the earthly ministry of Christ

(Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38)


Several months between Christ’s death and Paul’s conversion


3 years between Paul’s conversion and the time he went to see Peter.

(Galatians 1:14-18)


If the time periods above are added up we get a total time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Therefore, a New Covenant understanding of Daniel chapter 9 reveals the 70th week of Daniel occurred during the first century.


Did the sacrifices cease in the middle of the week, (after about 3 ½ years), when Christ died at Calvary? Why did God rip the temple veil in half at the moment Christ died? Even though the Jews continued to sacrifice animals after Calvary, were those sacrifices accepted by God? The answer to these questions can be found in the Book of Hebrews. Was Christ the final sacrifice for sin in Hebrews 10:16-18, in fulfillment of the New Covenant?


Very few modern Christians have ever heard the New Covenant interpretation of Daniel 9:27, which is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible.


In the YouTube message below Kelly Varner presents a New Covenant interpretation of Daniel chapter 9.


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I have noted on many occasions that jesus was the only sacrifice new or old testament that was ever acceptable so you do not have to belabor this point. In Rev we see all those in heaven noting that they were redeemed by the blood of the lamb so that would include Abraham to Adam to all who were justified by faith. The mission of Jesus as laid out in Luke 1 shows the exact time of deliverance from their enemies and from that time on it will be peace and holiness in keeping the oaths to the fathers. This matches Dan 7 where a pompous guy is persecuting for a time times and half a time when the kingdom is given to the son of man who is before the ancient of days. This man is blaspheming and his body is given to the flame when the kingdom comes that covers the earth and has no end.
So when the kingdom is established it comes after 3 1/2 years persecution. In zech 14 is shows the kingdom coming when Jerusalem is being overrun and 1/2 the city is taken. This is when the LORD comes and those bodies I note in Jer 31 will be there and the city will certainly need to be rebuilt. This is the day the LORD is king over all the earth. Again think to rev the angels proclaim the kingdom of this earth have become the kingdoms of the LORD and His Christ ans He shall rule them with a rod of iron. This transition is still future and in that day they will say the LORD is one. This is Israel confessing Jesus as LORD . ZEch 14 shows life continuing on earth after this day.

Why do you dodge the verses I note in Jer 31 about Israel not ceasing to be a nation and God not casting them off for all they have done. When is the city going to be rebuilt. and not torn down again. All the prophecies show the same dramatic before and after picture to Jerusalem and the Jews when the LORD comes. The sacrifice that is to come is not to create a restoration of that system but for the man of sin to be revealed in. Hosea 3 is a key prophecy 4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred pillar, without ephod or teraphim. 5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They shall fear the LORD and His goodness in the latter days. Now when Jesus came Israel has the sacrifice up and running for a long time. The clear implication is that after many days without something that then you have it again. Now the return of the sacrifice after many days without is clearly labeled as a latter day event and related to the day David is raised up too.
 
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Why do you dodge the verses I note in Jer 31 about Israel not ceasing to be a nation and God not casting them off for all they have done.

Because, if you are correct God lied between the years 70AD until 1948.
However, God did not lie because the ultimate fulfillment of Israel is found in Matthew 1:1, as confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16.

In Matthew 21 Christ said the kingdom would be taken from those who reject Him as "the chief cornerstone", and it would be given to another nation bearing fruit. That nation which accepts Him as "the chief cornerstone" is found in 1 Peter 2:4.

Anyone who attempts to separate the Church from faithful Israel must ignore what Peter said in Acts of the Apostles 2:36, and what Paul said in Romans 11:1-5, and what James said in James 1:1-3.

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The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.
wrongo.... The "he" is referring to the prince who shall come. The text does not refer to anyone by name.

The vision that Gabriel referred to in Daniel 9:23-24 is the 2300 day vision of the little horn, the stoppage of the daily sacrifice, the abomination of desolation, the cleansing of the temple in Daniel 8, said by Gabriel to be in the time of the end.

The 2300 days vision fits within the 7 year (2520 days) of Daniel 9:27 - time of the end.
 
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wrongo.... The "he" is referring to the prince who shall come. The text does not refer to anyone by name.

The vision that Gabriel referred to in Daniel 9:23-24 is the 2300 day vision of the little horn, the stoppage of the daily sacrifice, the abomination of desolation, the cleansing of the temple in Daniel 8, said by Gabriel to be in the time of the end.

The 2300 days vision fits within the 7 year (2520 days) of Daniel 9:27 - time of the end.


So far you have not been able to give us anyone else on the planet who agrees with your interpretation of Daniel 9. That is called a "private interpretation".

We are still waiting...


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Hi,

Before Jesus can return, is there supposed to be a New World Order where the "anti-christ" is supposed to be the leader of for 7 years before Jesus returns ?

Is this is what is supposed to happen ?

Thank you for your feedback

Hi Mike,

Good to know what is happening in our day, as the Lord tells us to be aware & come together all the more, & encourage each other, as we see the Day approaching. (Heb. 10: 25)

Ps. 110 tells us that Jesus is at the right hand of the Father, and that the Father is bringing the nations to His Son`s feet for judgments.

The Lord (Father) said to my Lord, (Jesus), "Sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool." (Ps. 110: 1)

In Ps. 2 we read that the nations are plotting and planning rebellion against the Lord and His anointed. So we see that the nations are the Lord`s enemies. (Note: the Body of Christ is a called out group from the nations).

God the Father is bringing the nations together for judgment. The Prophet Joel reveals where He will gather them.

`I will also gather all nations, and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there.` (Joel 3: 2)

The nations of the world have come together for their own plans at Armageddon, (Rev. 16: 16) and it is from there that the Father brings them down to Jerusalem where they will surround the city. (Luke 21: 24)

At the moment we are seeing the nations coming together, G 7, G 20 & the IMF (International Monetary Fund) to be the over sight of the world`s economy. Eventually in the near future I believe, an Islamic person will arise and deceive the nations. He will lead the G 20 and rule for 3 1/2 years.

Jesus will then return to judge the nations, (Matt. 25: 31) and deliver Israel. (Zech. 12:10, 14: 1 - 4)

Israel will then rule the nations as promised for a thousand years.
 
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So far you have not been able to give us anyone else on the planet who agrees with your interpretation of Daniel 9. That is called a "private interpretation".

We are still waiting...

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I am not getting baited into some boondoggle diversion of yours. I have shown using the scriptures of why the man made new covenant movement's interpretations and doctrines are wrong.
 
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So far you have not been able to give us anyone else on the planet who agrees with your interpretation of Daniel 9. That is called a "private interpretation".

We are still waiting...


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Douggg will never receive the truth that the "he" of Daniel 9:27 is Messiah the Prince according to context. God NEVER talked about evil prince in Daniel 9. So he is being brainwashed by false teachers over the years that verse 27 is about a third party outside context so he can try link "he" with "beast", "little horn", "antichrist", "man of law2dnessess" and came up with false 7 year doctrine. So...yeah private interpretation.
 
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