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I'm saying that those who could have used some positive de-escalation techniques have done nothing but incite the Right by marginalizing all of them. And now it's looking like there's going to be violence as a result.

And the Terrorist, Insurrectionists, and looters will be put down as they were last week.
 
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I'm saying that those who could have used some positive de-escalation techniques have done nothing but incite the Right by marginalizing all of them. And now it's looking like there's going to be violence as a result.
it isnt a result of marginalizing, it is a result of several if their leaders lying about the election and inciting violence.
 
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They will face the consequences of their actions.....just as those who participated on January 6th are facing the consequences.
I'm thinking that they really don't care at this point.

Let's put it this way...

One suicide bomber is extremely difficult to stop...
Thousands of them are impossible.
 
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I'm thinking that they really don't care at this point.

Let's put it this way...

One suicide bomber is extremely difficult to stop...
Thousands of them are impossible.

Be careful giving the game plan away, it could come back to haunt you.
 
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I'm thinking that they really don't care at this point.

Let's put it this way...

One suicide bomber is extremely difficult to stop...
Thousands of them are impossible.
As we witnessed last week, the seditionists do not have the stomach to endure casualties let alone the will to become suicide bombers.
 
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Well JohnDB, you are mistaken if you think next Wednesday is a Liberal vs Conservative event.

It's the ceremony to effect the peaceful transfer of power - a ceremony that has been held without fail since the first contested election (John Adams).

Trump supporters aren't interested in the trappings of democracy anymore. They care about one thing and one thing only, and that is retaining power.
 
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Since you can't see it, explaining it won't further your ability to understand.

Or you can't articulate what you really mean.
Conceding to those who use violence to get their way never ends well.
 
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I'm saying that those who could have used some positive de-escalation techniques have done nothing but incite the Right by marginalizing all of them. And now it's looking like there's going to be violence as a result.

The violence is a result of Trump supporters embracing an ideology of hatred.
 
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Be careful giving the game plan away, it could come back to haunt you.
I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything except for the Left to employ de-escalation techniques and to stop marginalizing the Right.
How difficult is it to give up some lip service if it keeps people from dying ?
But the Left doesn't seem to care...they keep right on and are getting worse as every day goes by.

It's the most nuts thing I've seen...and I've seen a lot of crazy. This has to be the dumbest thing ever.
 
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Or you can't articulate what you really mean.
Conceding to those who use violence to get their way never ends well.
Shoulda quit... ROFL
If you don't understand, you are usually providing proof of my assertions.
And you just did.
 
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Defund the Police?
Dismantle the Military Complex?
Throwing officers to the wolves if they get videoed doing their jobs?
Calling soldiers baby killers...
The belief that the election was illigitamate

And the Liberals think that there aren't any consequences for their actions... wouldn't even have a public investigation into the voting to dispel the rumors.

Well they did just watch those protestors also beat up several cops and kill one of them, so I doubt that endeared them either.

The Joint Chiefs already wrote that Biden as going to be the CiC come 20th. The election was legitimate. You seem to have this odd idea that the military as a whole is so weak that they'll throw democracy into the trash because of hurt feelings. They are professional people. They'll protect the ideals that your country stands for and its laws. One which includes the right of people to say nasty things about them and even argue for less money to be used on the military. It's okay to do so. And they know it. Naturally there are some members here and there who will show this to be untrue in their cases, but I'm speaking more about them as an organisation here.

I'll concentrate on thee military side here a bit more as I'm still part of the reserves here, but for about the police... the video doing their job seems to involve getting thrown to the wolves more often when said video shows the police lied about events in their reports.

And there's been plenty of looking into the voting issues. You just don't seem to like what those checks have shown, or rather, haven't shown. Paper ballots have been checked against electronic and cases of fraud have been found, showing that the system does work. There was just now a new case of a campaign worker who was caught for fraud. The cases are few and in national elections, not big enough to affect the results. I'd expect the danger of these is more relevant in local elections where 10s of votes could already swing results.

So why would the military or cops join in with armed protestors? If those armed protestors actually tried to change results by force, the insurrectionists would be dealt with by them.
 
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I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything except for the Left to employ de-escalation techniques and to stop marginalizing the Right.
How difficult is it to give up some lip service if it keeps people from dying ?
But the Left doesn't seem to care...they keep right on and are getting worse as every day goes by.

It's the most nuts thing I've seen...and I've seen a lot of crazy. This has to be the dumbest thing ever.

The calls for tribunals and executions from the right is just patriotism on display.

The left calling out the right for their nonsense is making them feel marginalized and the craziest/dumbest thing you've ever seen.

Your position is abundantly clear.
 
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I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything except for the Left to employ de-escalation techniques and to stop marginalizing the Right.
How difficult is it to give up some lip service if it keeps people from dying ?
But the Left doesn't seem to care...they keep right on and are getting worse as every day goes by.

It's the most nuts thing I've seen...and I've seen a lot of crazy. This has to be the dumbest thing ever.
To paraphrase the now decanonized Saint Ronnie, the US does not negotiate with terrorists.

Want to try to violently overthrow a lawful election? Go ahead, you will be met by those in uniform capable of replying in kind.
 
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Well they did just watch those protestors also beat up several cops and kill one of them, so I doubt that endeared them either.

The Joint Chiefs already wrote that Biden as going to be the CiC come 20th. The election was legitimate. You seem to have this odd idea that the military as a whole is so weak that they'll throw democracy into the trash because of hurt feelings. They are professional people. They'll protect the ideals that your country stands for and its laws. One which includes the right of people to say nasty things about them and even argue for less money to be used on the military. It's okay to do so. And they know it. Naturally there are some members here and there who will show this to be untrue in their cases, but I'm speaking more about them as an organisation here.

I'll concentrate on thee military side here a bit more as I'm still part of the reserves here, but for about the police... the video doing their job seems to involve getting thrown to the wolves more often when said video shows the police lied about events in their reports.

And there's been plenty of looking into the voting issues. You just don't seem to like what those checks have shown, or rather, haven't shown. Paper ballots have been checked against electronic and cases of fraud have been found, showing that the system does work. There was just now a new case of a campaign worker who was caught for fraud. The cases are few and in national elections, not big enough to affect the results. I'd expect the danger of these is more relevant in local elections where 10s of votes could already swing results.

So why would the military or cops join in with armed protestors? If those armed protestors actually tried to change results by force, the insurrectionists would be dealt with by them.

I'm not suggesting that our military are not professional or undisciplined...

But even the best of the best will have dissenters.

And my opinion is not what I am discussing...I'm saying that thousands upon thousands of people do believe that the Election results are fraudulent. (I don't but they do) and that's the important part.
That's the stuff that complete chaos is made from...and currently the problem.
 
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Get ready for impeachment #3.
If it happened once Trump is no longer behind the shield of the executive regular charges could be brought but unless he slips up hard on his ego, not unlikely, he is running for the don't prosecute me hills lately with the distance he is trying to put between him and the insurrection.
 
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Defund the Police?
Dismantle the Military Complex?
Throwing officers to the wolves if they get videoed doing their jobs?
Calling soldiers baby killers...
The belief that the election was illigitamate

And the Liberals think that there aren't any consequences for their actions... wouldn't even have a public investigation into the voting to dispel the rumors.
Will you be among those taking up arms against the United States, John?

Or do you expect someone else to do the dirty work for you?
 
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