Timtofly
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This is the kind of interpretation that happens when you don't see Revelation as 2 parallel visions of the same events but somehow see it as Jesus is established as King, but then hands over power and authority to Satan to hand over to the beast. Which duplicates a lot of events and quickly stops making sense. Which is part of why Revelation is such a confusing book to many people because they do not divide it correctly. Revelation 10, particularly 10:7, exists as a chapter specifically to mark that the 7th trumpet is the end of that narrative. That anything else seen after John witnesses the judgement of the dead, is not a continuation, but another view.
Where did I say Jesus was proclaimed as King? The 7th Trumpet does sound, no? Satan is cast out of Heaven, no? Does the whole 8 day week finish, or is it interrupted?
The 7th Trumpet starts when the final harvest is complete at the 7th Thunder. It does not stop until the end of the one hour battle of Armageddon. The 7th Trumpet covers the complete 8 days. The 8 days include Satan's 42 months, because God allowed those 42 months to cut the week in half. The last 3 days of the week is the 7 vial event, when the 2 witnesses lay dead in Jerusalem. Then, Sunday afternoon is the battle of Armageddon. The 7th Trumpet covers chapters 10-19. The chapters are different aspects of the 7th Trumpet event.
Let's break this down
Revelation 6:9-11
So we see here, those who are martyred during the great tribulations, this would be during those 42 months that the Antichrist reigns who has been beheading Christians after the Abomination of Desolation, complaining that God has not judged the world yet, He has not begun His wrath yet. Because for the wrath to come first the world must be judged. They are told that it will not happen, until a number of Christians that were destined to be martyred in this period were killed. Anything before the 5th seal, is not the wrath of God therefore.
Revelation 6:12-17
That is as clear as it gets to tell you when exactly does the wrath of God begin. After Jesus appears in the clouds, sitting on His throne, after the sun and moon go dark, as has been told all through OT prophecy as the sign that precedes the day of the Lord. Whatever happens after this point in time, is the wrath of God. Chapter 7 is kind of parenthetical but I still think it chronologically happens after the sixth seal event before the 7th, chapter 10 is parenthetical, and the two witnesses part of chapter 11 I THINK had been ongoing rather than 3.5 years of time passing between the 6th trumpet and 7th trumpet. the end part of it may be happening at the same time as the rapture, where they get resurrected and brought up to heaven. But I'm flexible on the two witnesses. It does just make more sense than 3.5 years between the 6th and 7th trumpet.
the rest of chapter 11, the 7th trumpet, the earthquake, and the announcement that the world now belongs to Jesus and there's a final judgement of the dead. Very similar to what happens in chapter 20. Just chapter 20 gives a length of time between the establishment of the kingdom and final judgement.
The martyrs in the 5th seal include all of history from Abel, who Cain slew to this very day. Jesus already pointed that out: Luke 11:51
Revelation 20 cannot happen until after the 7th Trumpet stops. This would be Monday, the next day. The day would start at 6pm after the battle of Armageddon, if God still uses Hebrew time, set up in Genesis 1.
Second vision
Revelation 14:6-10
First off, we see that the Lord does not judge the world until the great commission is completed, and ultimately, the church does not complete it themselves, An angel finishes the job. This has to happen before the end can come, as Jesus said in Matthew 24:14
Pretribbers seem to understand that the gospel has to be preached to everyone before the rapture can take place.
Here we see that only happens after the mark of the beast has been around
Second, we see that the world is now judged. God doesn't bring His wrath until He has judged. So the stuff that happened before, the mark of the beast, and persecution, was not the wrath of God.
Third, we see that not everyone has taken the mark of the beast, there are some who are still alive, who have not taken it, and are warned against it.
Then we come to the appearance of Jesus in the clouds
Revelation 14:14-20
The wrath begins after the harvest (the rapture) that Jesus performs when He came on the clouds. Nothing before that was the wrath. The wrath happens after. Just like in the first narrative, the first 5 seals were not the wrath of God, Jesus came at the 6th seal, and that's when the wrath of God began. In the first narrative it's represented by trumpets. In the second narrative it's represented by bowls/vials.
Revelation 15:1
Revelation 16:1
Couldn't be clearer that the wrath of God is the vials, and not before, and in the first narrative it's the trumpets, and not before.
The point about angels is symbolic of death. The harvest is a death event. The sheep and wheat are not changed, nor added to the church. They literally die. Revelation 20:4 is their Resurrection. Revelation 20 has nothing to do with the church one iota. I agree the church is completed in the 6th seal. They remain in Paradise until it comes down as the New Jerusalem.
Revelation 20 deals with those beheaded in the 42 months. These are not martyrs. These are people who save their own souls from being removed from the book of life, by choosing to have their heads cut off. Avoiding the mark from appearing on one's head is the only reason to cut one's head off. It is a binary choice of eternal life or eternal damnation. It is not dying for standing up for Jesus Christ. It is dying instead of worshipping Satan.
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