Is Jesus God?

sparow said:

What do yo make of
Psalm 82:6-7 (NKJV)
6 I said, "You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.
7 But you shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes."
The word for Gods is elohiym; how do you interpret this scripture to make it fit your strange Bible view?

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sparow said:

Is Jesus God or is He the son of God? This question has been asked recently and the quesion is loaded. A Jew I would expect would say no.

One of the issues here is past, present and future tense; was Jesus Elohim, I would say yes; was Jesus Jehovah, I do not know; was Jesus God when He walked the earth, His name was God with us; and He did raise himself from the dead; since His resurrection Jesus has a new name.

I do not know what the people who ask this question are actually asking. The word God is a title or rank, not different in nature to Lord, Prince, King, or Captain; if the word God is defined differently in scripture then that definition would be for a unique personality. Jehovah is a proper name with a unique meaning, it is not a title; Allah is a meaningful name not a title; Allah does not mean Jehovah.

When God became man His name changed as well as His title; He was not called God of the Jews but was called King of the Jews; Jesus now has a new name but His title is still king.

With the name, "God with us" I am not sure if this refers to Jehovah, Adonay or Elohim.

With "the Lord thy God" Lord could be Jehovah or Adonay and God is Elohim.

When we say God what do we mean; are our perceptions of God Biblical?

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ViaCrucis said:

Dug a little using Google,

The Council of Nicaea (Nicea) and the Bible

The whole page discusses the origins of the myth, at the very bottom it seems that the origin may ultimately arrive from a 9th century text known for its author's zeal, but lack of careful research, and being prone to fanciful embellishments. That books were placed upon the altar and the council fathers prayed, the accepted books to be found on top and the spurious ones on the bottom; this perhaps later is what evolves into Voltaire's cynical idea that books were plopped upon the church altar and all the books that fell off were rejected and the ones that stayed were accepted. And finally the idea that Constantine/the Council actively chose which books and carefully edited the Bible, etc.

However, the original 9th century legend wouldn't have been talking about heretical works, but disputed works; but its mutation through the telephone game over time lost even that nuance.

-CryptoLutheran

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yeshuaslavejeff said:

He's referring to pagan teachings directly
contrary to YHWH'S WORD , PLAN and PURPOSE.

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sparow said:

Are you talking genetics or metaphors?

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Der Alte said:

I already answered that in my Link: post #149 this thread.

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Colter said:

Yes, God the Father has divine children who are then the Fathers and creators of their children.

In effect, we are the grandchildren of God the Father.

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