Biden, Harris take heat

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That was was pretty clear he was observing the whole mess to get an idea of what the seditionists were about. And the police seemed to believe him.

He was hardly there to loot or threaten the VPOTUS.
 
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No, I strongly doubt anyone is gullible enough to believe something like that given all the examples of violence from Donald's supporters. Sounds more like an early attempt a misinformation to try and distract from what actually happened.
provide evidence for all those examples of violence by Trump supporters, there may be a few far right involved in this incident but the majority were just plain Trump supporters who have not been violent in the past, except anything that you may be able to document.
 
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No, that's not how this works. If you make ridiculous claims about public figures and can't back them up, people are simply going to start dismissing what you say as baseless. Not to mention that it borders on the rules here against personal attacks on public figures.
Go read all of my posts before you make your judgments, I provided evidence all you need to do is read the articles I provided. Everything I said is fair and verified.
 
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Just in case you thought it was some mysterious secret what was being planned - really a three-year-old could have worked it out. Police collusion at the highest level allowed MAGA supporters to commit sedition.

Prosecutors 'looking at all actors,' including Trump, as charges are filed against Capitol rioters - CNNPolitics
Police collusion at the highest level allowed MAGA supporters to commit sedition.
Do you have any evidence of Police collusion, you should not make charges if you have no evidence.
 
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Do you have any evidence of Police collusion, you should not make charges if you have no evidence.
Yes. They were given the intelligence of the risk level. Offered the national guard and rejected it. Had only baseline staffing and basic perimeter fencing. When that failed and they were inside the capitol, a number of them took selfies with the MAGA domestic terrorists. So.... Heck if you don't like the word "collusion", would you prefer "ridiculously incompetent? "... Which would seem so odd given how competent they were at a BLM rally and they cleared the area so Trump could get a photo taken with a bible in his hand.
 
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Yes. They were given the intelligence of the risk level. Offered the national guard and rejected it. Had only baseline staffing and basic perimeter fencing. When that failed and they were inside the capitol, a number of them took selfies with the MAGA domestic terrorists. So.... Heck if you don't like the word "collusion", would you prefer "ridiculously incompetent? "... Which would seem so odd given how competent they were at a BLM rally and they cleared the area so Trump could get a photo taken with a bible in his hand.
Negligent would be an appropriate term. The blame should rest on the command staff, if the officers had been appropriately briefed on the expectations for this event, it is reasonable to expect that no one would have been in the relaxed state that was seen. Some of those officers risked their lives protecting other people. If command staff had taken the precautions that should have been taken it is unlikely that anyone would have died.
 
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Go read all of my posts before you make your judgments, I provided evidence all you need to do is read the articles I provided. Everything I said is fair and verified.
Not backing up your claims in response to someone pointing out that you made claims without backing them up is really entertaining. Is this performance art or was it unintentional?
 
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Not backing up your claims in response to someone pointing out that you made claims without backing them up is really entertaining. Is this performance art or was it unintentional?
where is the evidence that claims have not been backed up, making unproven suggestions that something is improper is nothing but an attempt to discredit someone.
 
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The fact that some uses Trumps name does not make them a Trump supporter. Regarding the Portland incident BLM killed a man in that incident.
It pretty much does. They are doing what Trump wanted done and claiming that they are Trump supporters. It puts the burden of proof upon the deniers such as yourself.

When are you going to show that they are not Trump supporters?
 
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where is the evidence that claims have not been backed up, making unproven suggestions that something is improper is nothing but an attempt to discredit someone.
Sorry, I doubt if anyone is going to play that game. We have all seen you and other Trump supporters endlessly make claims without supporting them. And the few times you try to it is with bogus sources.
 
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It pretty much does. They are doing what Trump wanted done and claiming that they are Trump supporters. It puts the burden of proof upon the deniers such as yourself.

When are you going to show that they are not Trump supporters?
Well it pretty much does not and no proof is required that anyone can use someones name without being affiliated with them, that is simply common knowledge.
 
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Well it pretty much does not and no proof is required that anyone can use someones name without being affiliated with them, that is simply common knowledge.

You are misusing terminology. The correct term is "evidence" and there is no doubt that it is evidence for this. "Proof" often depends upon who sees the evidence. Some people are not very honest and no amount of evidence will convince them.
 
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