Things rational people need to remember

nolidad · Jan 9, 2021

TEn days from now President Trump will leave office.

He will go down as one of the most if not the most controversial president ever.

He is the most unpolitical acting politician in POTUS ever.

But concerning the events of this week:

Trump did not incite the crowd to riot! Folks in four years we have had this exact same rhetoric and never have we had Trump supporters riot. This time was no different. The left has used teh same inflammatory rhetoric and no one ever dared accuse them of inciting riots (course it wouldn't get reported on except for newsmax and maybe Fox)

There is credible evidence that antifa and BLM infiltrated this crowd.

As riots go this was a very peaceful riot. Far less harm and damage compared to teh BLM riots of the summer that are still having ramifications.

Pelosi is playing the high drama queen as usual. Afraid Trump may launch nuclear missiles. REally? If she is that paranoid, maybe she should step down with Trump! That is all kabuke political theater to denigrate the GOP if they don't accede to the Dems and demand Trump resign!

Trump was and is a huge firebrand! He stepped on some really big toes when he took on the establishment and the one worlders. He has paid the price by being shamed for all time. That doesn't make many of his acccusations less true, just louded by teh counter attack from teh globalists and socialists.

Ophiolite · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
There is credible evidence that antifa and BLM infiltrated this crowd.

Present the evidence.
Explain why the FBI has declared there is no credible evidence.
Stop making excuses.

durangodawood · Jan 9, 2021

Yeah "rational" people need to remember this is antifa's fault.

People, this^ is where America is at today. Is there hope for us?

Brightmoon · Jan 9, 2021

Here’s the deal from the horse’s mouth right from Fox News ! So your statement of this being Antifa is not true and the trump based government knows it !

MIDutch · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
There is credible evidence that antifa and BLM infiltrated this crowd.

Sure there was.

Just like there was credible evidence of wide spread 2020 voter fraud.

Or there is credible evidence that the world is flat.

Or there is credible evidence that the Cosmos poofed into existence 6000 years ago.

BTW, if BLM infiltrated the crowd, it shouldn't be too hard to pick their faces out of the crowd, but from what I could tell, the crowd was entirely made up of a bunch of white guys thinking they were a combination of Rambo and Mel Gibson's character in the Patriot (and their women, of course).

Guinan · Jan 9, 2021

Ophiolite said:
Present the evidence.

Explain why the FBI has declared there is no credible evidence.

Stop making excuses.

4. Explain Trump's speech instigating violence among his supporters.

"You don't concede when there's theft involved. Our country has had enough and we will not take it any more..." "And we fight. We fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." - POTUS Donald Trump

This is what Trump told supporters before many stormed Capitol Hill

A timeline of how Trump incited his followers to storm the Capitol and attempt a coup

mlepfitjw · Jan 9, 2021

God let him run our country, for the past 4 years.

I do not see nothing wrong with God's choices.

1 Timothy 2: First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone— 2for kings and all those in authority— so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. 3This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior

@durangodawood ; had just edited this post. This is the reasoning. Have a great day brother and to all here posting.

Edit 2: Though Trump did run for the past 4 years, during the election ( I do not vote ) my desire was for Biden to go ahead and take over now. (Just because Trump needs to have some rest, from all the slack he has gotten)

Edit 3: @MIDutch , post #11, yes. I didn't have a problem with him either.

MIDutch · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
Trump was and is a huge firebrand! He stepped on some really big toes when he took on the establishment and the one worlders. He has paid the price by being shamed for all time.

Oh, please. trump has been an incompetent, criminal idiot his entire life. He doesn't need to have a "elitist/globalist/one world" (read rich powerful Jewish bankers) shaming him. He's been doing that to himself his entire life.

durangodawood · Jan 9, 2021

Agallagher said:
God let him run our country, for the past 4 years.

I do not see nothing wrong with God's choices.

Is there a reasoning or basic principle behind this thinking?

GreatLakes4Ever · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
TEn days from now President Trump will leave office.

He will go down as one of the most if not the most controversial president ever.

He is the most unpolitical acting politician in POTUS ever.

But concerning the events of this week:

Trump did not incite the crowd to riot! Folks in four years we have had this exact same rhetoric and never have we had Trump supporters riot. This time was no different. The left has used teh same inflammatory rhetoric and no one ever dared accuse them of inciting riots (course it wouldn't get reported on except for newsmax and maybe Fox)

There is credible evidence that antifa and BLM infiltrated this crowd.

As riots go this was a very peaceful riot. Far less harm and damage compared to teh BLM riots of the summer that are still having ramifications.

Pelosi is playing the high drama queen as usual. Afraid Trump may launch nuclear missiles. REally? If she is that paranoid, maybe she should step down with Trump! That is all kabuke political theater to denigrate the GOP if they don't accede to the Dems and demand Trump resign!

Trump was and is a huge firebrand! He stepped on some really big toes when he took on the establishment and the one worlders. He has paid the price by being shamed for all time. That doesn't make many of his acccusations less true, just louded by teh counter attack from teh globalists and socialists.

You are currently trying to defend treason. Take a good hard look at your life and choices that have lead you to be reduced to having to defend traitors to the United States of America.

MIDutch · Jan 9, 2021

Agallagher said:
God let him run our country, for the past 4 years.

I do not see nothing wrong with God's choices.

By your "logic", God let Obama run the country for 8 years.

The difference between how they ran the country, and the results of that governance, could not be more stark.

mkgal1 · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
As riots go this was a very peaceful riot.

Tell that to the families that no longer have their loved ones with them (like the family of the Capitol police officer that was killed by having a fire extinguisher bashed over his head and no one there prevented it).

"Photos show damage to Capitol following 1st mass breach since War of 1812" Photos show damage to Capitol following 1st mass breach since War of 1812

Four bullet holes in the glass of the doors that lead to the House Capitol steps. You don't end up with 4 bullet holes in glass doors during "peaceful protests".

MIDutch said:
BTW, if BLM infiltrated the crowd, it shouldn't be too hard to pick their faces out of the crowd, but from what I could tell, the crowd was entirely made up of a bunch of white guys thinking they were a combination of Rambo and Mel Gibson's character in the Patriot (and their women, of course).

Exactly......and they made it easier for us to figure out who was there by posting their own pictures on social media.

cow451 · Jan 9, 2021

Agallagher said:
God let him run our country, for the past 4 years.

I do not see nothing wrong with God's choices.

1 Timothy 2: First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone— 2for kings and all those in authority— so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. 3This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior

Looks like God finally got tired of his crap, too.

Elliewaves · Jan 9, 2021

Rational Christians need to remember that trump is not a figure of persecution nor a deity. He's a fallible human being that chose to do wrong and spit on our country and all it upholds. He needs to be held responsible for his actions and words. As a leader he is upheld to a higher standard and he failed. Instead of pointing people to God or even promoting a love and respect for America he only tried to line his pockets and do more to glorify himself and spread lies. Nothing he said or did this week alone was Godly or worthy of any praise as a leader. He hasn't even given a message or address to all Americans on what happened this week or the lives lost. Not even to say that our country and upholding democracy will prevail. He couldn't even bring himself to say Biden's name. Did he even say anything about the Nashville bombing after that happened?

mkgal1 · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
As riots go this was a very peaceful riot. Far less harm and damage compared to teh BLM riots of the summer that are still having ramifications.

At least you're calling it a riot.

Colin Kaepernick protested about as respectfully and peacefully as possible, but it still got him fired and many people that supported what happened at the Capitol this past week were against Kaepernick's protest.

Guinan · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
As riots go this was a very peaceful riot.

Some of the treacherous Insurrectionists were yelling "HANG MIKE PENCE!" And three of them were overheard saying that they wanted to find Mike Pence at the Capitol and execute him as a traitor.

Next, there's also this treacherous Insurrectionist traitor the FBI is now looking for.

Insurrectionist “Zip-Tie Guy” identified as retired Air Force lieutenant colonel

FBI looking for man in Senate with zip ties, tactical gear; experts call him a rioter 'hunting for people'

Would you care to explain how an assassination attempt on VP Mike Pence and a retired AF Colonel in tactical gear, carrying zip ties as if he's looking to take hostages, constitutes a "peaceful" protest?

nolidad · Jan 9, 2021

Ophiolite said:
Present the evidence.

Explain why the FBI has declared there is no credible evidence.

Stop making excuses.

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Watch America uncovered on you tube and see teh arrest report of a BLM activist arrested inside the Capitol.

I am not making excuses.

Stop trying to read my mind you are lousy at it.

nolidad · Jan 9, 2021

Guinan said:
Some of the treacherous Insurrectionists were yelling "HANG MIKE PENCE!" And three of them were overheard saying that they wanted to find Mike Pence at the Capitol and execute him as a traitor.

Next, there's also this treacherous Insurrectionist traitor the FBI is now looking for.

Insurrectionist “Zip-Tie Guy” identified as retired Air Force lieutenant colonel

FBI looking for man in Senate with zip ties, tactical gear; experts call him a rioter 'hunting for people'

Would you care to explain how an assassination attempt on VP Mike Pence and a retired AF Colonel in tactical gear, carrying zip ties as if he's looking to take hostages, constitutes a "peaceful" protest?

Just comparing them to the results of the "peaceful protests" as the mainstream media called what happened in Atlanta, Portland and other cities this past summer! Compared to them this was a near snoozer.

Yes people died and hopefully all who were responsible will be brought to justice.

I think we should have something that will never happen again in America---fairness in reporting!

nolidad · Jan 9, 2021

mkgal1 said:
At least you're calling it a riot.

Colin Kaepernick protested about as respectfully and peacefully as possible, but it still got him fired and many people that supported what happened at the Capitol this past week were against Kaepernick's protest.

Kapewrnick was an employee that was stirring trouble for his employer. He got fired for disobeying the rules of his employment. He is free to protest all he wishes, but he cannot do it on company time.

Well I can't speak to the many that were against Kapernick but supported this riot. But if this is insurrection as Biden called it- I wonder what He called when Washington ,Franklin, Et.Al. actually started a war with the ruling govt. in America in the 18th century?

Most of the people booed when the rioters broke into the capitol. Despite what the media reports- most right wingers when they protest are peaceful. they may be loud, but past protests showed they even picked up after themselves.

Desk trauma · Jan 9, 2021

nolidad said:
There is credible evidence that antifa and BLM infiltrated this crowd.

Has a consensus been reached on if the late insurrectionist Babbitt was an Antifa provocative or holy martyr yet? Is she both depending On the situation?

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