Sen. Josh Hawley loses book deal after seeking to overturn election

durangodawood · Jan 8, 2021

He calls it "Orwellian". But I'm fine with it. No company should feel compelled to associate with, or be a mouthpiece for, people they view as lying opportunists.

(yahoo news)
Publisher cancels Sen. Josh Hawley's book over insurrection; Hawley responds 'we'll see you in court!'

Triumvirate · Jan 8, 2021

durangodawood said:
He calls it "Orwellian". But I'm fine with it. No company should feel compelled to associate with, or be a mouthpiece for, people they view as lying opportunists.

(yahoo news)
Publisher cancels Sen. Josh Hawley's book over insurrection; Hawley responds 'we'll see you in court!'

Joshie boy might be a bit shocked to learn how Orwell handled fascists in Spain.

durangodawood · Jan 8, 2021

Triumvirate said:
Joshie boy might be a bit shocked to learn how Orwell handled fascists in Spain.

He also might be shocked at what a terrific prose stylist Orwell was.

Desk trauma · Jan 8, 2021

He seemed thrilled with the supreme court when it came to people refusing to bake cakes for gay people, now suddenly he's not for people and companies being able to refuse to do business with those they disagree with. Imagine that.

Triumvirate · Jan 8, 2021

Also people's understanding of Orwell tends to only go so far as a very stilted, clichéd partial reading of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Yes, freedom does consist of telling people what they don't want to hear.

It also mattered that Smith was fighting to be able to say something correct - 2+2=4 - and that the state was insisting that people believe something incorrect.

That book is not licence that anyone should be saying anything they like and to heck whether it's correct or not. Freedom without accuracy and fact plays into the hands of authoritarians.

Arcangl86 · Jan 8, 2021

I'm really starting to think they need to quiz Members of Congress on the Constitution before allowing them to be sworn in. Because so many of them seem not to know or understand the document they have sworn to uphold and defend. The less charitable, though imo more likely view, is that they are deliberately lying to their constituents to score political points, counting on people to not realize it.

durangodawood · Jan 8, 2021

Triumvirate said:
Also people's understanding of Orwell tends to only go so far as a very stilted, clichéd partial reading of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Yes, freedom does consist of telling people what they don't want to hear.

It also mattered that Smith was fighting to be able to say something correct - 2+2=4 - and that the state was insisting that people believe something incorrect.

That book is not licence that anyone should be saying anything they like and to heck whether it's correct or not. Freedom without accuracy and fact plays into the hands of authoritarians.

Ah darn I already gave out my one "winner" rating for this thread.

durangodawood · Jan 8, 2021

Arcangl86 said:
I'm really starting to think they need to quiz Members of Congress on the Constitution before allowing them to be sworn in. Because so many of them seem not to know or understand the document they have sworn to uphold and defend. The less charitable, though imo more likely view, is that they are deliberately lying to their constituents to score political points, counting on people to not realize it.

Hawley is Yale law school. I would think he knows....?

Desk trauma · Jan 8, 2021

Arcangl86 said:
I'm really starting to think they need to quiz Members of Congress on the Constitution before allowing them to be sworn in. Because so many of them seem not to know or understand the document they have sworn to uphold and defend. The less charitable, though imo more likely view, is that they are deliberately lying to their constituents to score political points, counting on people to not realize it.

When it comes to those who have relevant higher education, like the one who spared this thread or Cruz, I agree its likely they are playing dumb with most others, like Tuberville, they really are that clueless.

GoldenBoy89 · Jan 8, 2021

durangodawood said:
He calls it "Orwellian". But I'm fine with it. No company should feel compelled to associate with, or be a mouthpiece for, people they view as lying opportunists.

(yahoo news)
Publisher cancels Sen. Josh Hawley's book over insurrection; Hawley responds 'we'll see you in court!'

Sure except Orwell was able to get his works published.

KCfromNC · Jan 8, 2021

durangodawood said:
He calls it "Orwellian". But I'm fine with it. No company should feel compelled to associate with, or be a mouthpiece for, people they view as lying opportunists.

(yahoo news)
Publisher cancels Sen. Josh Hawley's book over insurrection; Hawley responds 'we'll see you in court!'

Hmm, elections have consequences?

KCfromNC · Jan 8, 2021

durangodawood said:
Hawley is Yale law school. I would think he knows....?

Yeah, likely targeting a specific audience with this particular brand of nonsense.

durangodawood · Jan 8, 2021

KCfromNC said:
Hmm, elections have consequences?

Overthrowing valid elections has consequences.

Desk trauma · Jan 8, 2021

Arcangl86 · Jan 9, 2021

Desk trauma said:

[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] I heard about this but didn't see it. Romney looks ready to lay hands on him.

Desk trauma · Jan 18, 2021

Update:

He got another publisher for his book but clearly his rights were violated and are still being trampled upon as it is not the largest publisher. As we all know the first amendment not only insures a right to a platform for speech but the largest most viewed platform. Anything less is a Orwellian act of censorship violating our most cherished ideas of free speech.

Aryeh Jay · Jan 18, 2021

Desk trauma said:
Update:

He got another publisher for his book but clearly his rights were violated and are still being trampled upon as it is not the largest publisher. As we all know the first amendment not only insures a right to a platform for speech but the largest most viewed platform. Anything less is a Orwellian act of censorship violating our most cherished ideas of free speech.

Good, something for the fireplace.

Pommer · Jan 18, 2021

Aryeh Jay said:
Good, something for the fireplace.

Beside or in?

Kentonio · Jan 18, 2021

Desk trauma said:
Update:

He got another publisher for his book but clearly his rights were violated and are still being trampled upon as it is not the largest publisher. As we all know the first amendment not only insures a right to a platform for speech but the largest most viewed platform. Anything less is a Orwellian act of censorship violating our most cherished ideas of free speech.

Humerously his new publisher attacked his old one as they took up his book. Except his old publisher are also the international distributor for his new one. I expect this story has more comedy to come..

Belk · Jan 18, 2021

Aryeh Jay said:
Good, something for the fireplace.

Paper not a fine enough quality for the outhouse?

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