U.S. Allies found evidence Trump was planning a coup and had help

The Barbarian

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And in case you didn't know...
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Right wing terrorists have killed several police officers in the past few years. We need to find these thugs and put them away.

And we need to remove the president who incites them.
 
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Everyone:

There is another possible explanation for the oddly thin Capitol Police at that moment that allowed the mob to show in a more full way the real character of that Trump rally and Trump's words -- for Trump's real character to be become undeniable, visible to everyone, so that many would suddenly see the real character. Many. For instance Senator Loeffler, Senator Graham...and millions and millions of American voters...


This in action:

12 A troublemaker and a villain,
who goes about with a corrupt mouth,
13 who winks maliciously with his eye,
signals with his feet
and motions with his fingers,
14 who plots evil with deceit in his heart—
he always stirs up conflict.
15 Therefore disaster will overtake him in an instant;
he will suddenly be destroyed—without remedy.

Proverbs 29:1 A man who remains stiff-necked after much reproof will suddenly be shattered beyond recovery.

If one believes, as I do, that these really are truths in some essential real way, then it follows logically that they will occur at times.

There will be moments/instances when these verses do happen (a lot of instances that we never see in personal lives course, but here I mean they will happen also at moments when it's on a national or even global stage and anyone in the world could see it play out).
 
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We do that, too. You think we don't know about fascist groups in Germany, UK, etc.? And since US and allied security people talk, it's likely much of it came from FBI or CIA sources.
If it's coming from the FBI or CIA it's probably best to take what's being claimed with a grain of salt. Both those outfits have motivations worthy of being questioned.
 
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And in case you didn't know...
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Right wing terrorists have killed several police officers in the past few years. We need to find these thugs and put them away.

And we need to remove the president who incites them.

And all of the sudden, just like that, Blue Lives Don't matter to the Blue lives matter crowd as much as they'd like us to believe.
 
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My concern now is to watch what President Biden and is radical left will do.

President-elect Biden says he will enforce the laws. That will be sufficient. The radical left lost in the democratic primaries.

If they start passing laws to prohibit such an event from happening again, pay close attention to those proposals. They may not be for the safety of the republic.

There are already laws against sedition and incitement. Those need to be strictly enforced first, before we go making new laws. Everyone who took part in this attempted overthrow, or incited the mob to attempt it, needs to be prosecuted.

Everyone.
 
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And all of the sudden, just like that, Blue Lives Don't matter to the Blue lives matter crowd as much as they'd like us to believe.

No surprise there. When the police start enforcing laws, the radical responds with lethal violence. That started last year, when right-wing terrorists started killing police officers.

The officer murdered by the mob happened to be a Trump supporter, but was apparently doing his duty anyway, when the terrorists battered him with a fire extinguisher. He collapsed and was with his family in the hospital when he died from his injuries.

There should be space in the hall of statues for him. Regardless of his politics, he died for all of us, and deserves that honor.
 
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If it's coming from the FBI or CIA it's probably best to take what's being claimed with a grain of salt. Both those outfits have motivations worthy of being questioned.

In a time when Putin is cited by the right as trustworthy, it's not surprising that they consider American law enforcement agencies to be the enemy.
 
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My concern now is to watch what President Biden and is radical left will do. If they start
passing laws to prohibit such an event from happening again, pay close attention to those proposals. They may not be for the safety of the republic.
You mean like this.....
ABC News calls for 'cleansing the movement' of Trump supporters following Capitol riots
An ABC News article calling for the "cleansing" of the movement of President Trump's supporters was stealth-edited after critics questioned the charged word.

We all know what the word "cleansing" means, don't we?
 
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We all know what the word "cleansing" means, don't we?

Removing filth. The American people have already begun the process. Many republicans are saying the same thing, and have been saying it for a long time. The abiding corruption of the GOP is bad for the party and bad for the country. And many of them are now working to take back the party from the Trump and his allies.

"Clean" is a dirty word for the far right. For reasons we all get.
 
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....and WHO on the right does that?

Donald Trump.

President Trump emerged from his historic summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki on Monday saying he doesn’t believe that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“I don’t see any reason why it would be,” Trump said during a joint press conference with Putin following their discussions. “President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”
Trump says he believes Putin that Russia didn't interfere in election

There's more. How much more would you like to see?

 
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Donald Trump.
Ahhhh....one person.....so that makes all on the right guilty, is that it? If that is your standard we can paint the left all day and night with similar accusations.
 
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Removing filth. The American people have already begun the process. Many republicans are saying the same thing, and have been saying it for a long time. The abiding corruption of the GOP is bad for the party and bad for the country. And many of them are now working to take back the party from the Trump and his allies.

"Clean" is a dirty word for the far right. For reasons we all get.
No Barb. In their context it means 'eliminate' and you know it. If they just meant clean it up they would not have changed the word. Nice try.
 
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Removing filth. The American people have already begun the process. Many republicans are saying the same thing, and have been saying it for a long time. The abiding corruption of the GOP is bad for the party and bad for the country. And many of them are now working to take back the party from the Trump and his allies.

"Clean" is a dirty word for the far right. For reasons we all get.

I'm all for removing every single Republican politician who sold out the Party to Trump. I'd like to see them either voted out or forced to resign. It's way overdue to clean house in the Republican Party. I believe every single one of these sold out Yes-man Republicans rightly deserve a Day of Reckoning in the next election that will determine their future in Congress. I won't want them to get away Scott-free with supporting Trump in his many attempts to overturn the election in his favor. They deserve to be voted out or forced to resign. I don't have any sympathy for them whatsoever. Good riddance. The sooner the Republican Party is freed from the clutches of Trump, the better. He has had his tentacles wrapped around the neck of the Republican Party long enough. Now that he has lost the election, it is time to deal with his Yes-men in the government. It's time to force them to resign or vote them out.
 
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President-elect Biden says he will enforce the laws. That will be sufficient. The radical left lost in the democratic primaries.



There are already laws against sedition and incitement. Those need to be strictly enforced first, before we go making new laws. Everyone who took part in this attempted overthrow, or incited the mob to attempt it, needs to be prosecuted.

Everyone.

Enforce the current laws and the news laws that Congress puts in place ? Fine, all I'm saying is, pay attention to those new laws.

Depends on how they enforce the sedition laws.

During WWI, Wilson enacted the anti-sedition law which meant, people were arrested for speaking out against the war.
 
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In a time when Putin is cited by the right as trustworthy, it's not surprising that they consider American law enforcement agencies to be the enemy.
I'm on the right and have never cited Putin as being trustworthy. I also have a healthy skepticism of police and law enforcement, which is a historically conservative position to take.
 
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The sooner the Republican Party is freed from the clutches of Trump, the better.

The country needs a viable republican party. Right now, it's more of a Halloween party than a political party.
 
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I'm on the right and have never cited Putin as being trustworthy. I also have a healthy skepticism of police and law enforcement, which is a historically conservative position to take.
I have to admit, I lean that way also. Local law enforcement is probably a greater threat to our freedoms than federal/state government could ever be.
 
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