Trump will not be at the Inauguration
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It doesnt count for anything. "Nasty" people often play nice now and again when they feel the necessity.
Its the overall pattern that matters.
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Are you accusing trump of being polite?
Really?
Yeah, we all know how that works because everyone knows that trump being tactful is him just reading something off of a telepromtor that someone else wrote.
Heck, most of the time you can tell by his facial expressions or tone of voice how distasteful it is for him to actually have to say those tactful words.
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Like his condemnation of the violence today. Shades of post-Charlottesville about it.
As for his refusal to attend the inauguration - well, he's always been a coward.
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More likely he intends to get a head start to a non-extradition country...
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Why would he be there? The left isn't, and never has been, interested in "solidarity" with Trump or conservatives. This is a case of "we treated you like dirt for four years, but if you don't sit next to us at lunch, YOU'RE the big meanie!"
What a joke.
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Why would he be there? The left isn't, and never has been, interested in "solidarity" with Trump or conservatives. This is a case of "we treated you like dirt for four years, but if you don't sit next to us at lunch, YOU'RE the big meanie!"
What a joke.
*blinks in 2008-2016*
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There were four former presidents and several VP's (including Biden) at trump's 2016 inauguration. Also, Hilary was there as a former first lady as Bill as attended as a former president. History is important to study. Nixon, disgraced as he was, did visit Clinton in the WH and several former presidents attended the opening of his library and his funeral. Trump may have crossed a line though. I don't think former or future presidents will think kindly of him nor invite him to things. Trying to overturn an election to your will and using blinded Americans to do your dirty work for you in a violent way will not be very welcomed by those that love America. As time goes on, more will come out about what happened on Wed.
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For what it is worth, I had previously made a bold prediction on a previous thread that Trump would be at the inauguration merely out of spite. I am going on the record to concede that my prediction was wrong. @TLK Valentine
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Why would he be there? The left isn't, and never has been, interested in "solidarity" with Trump or conservatives. This is a case of "we treated you like dirt for four years, but if you don't sit next to us at lunch, YOU'RE the big meanie!"
What a joke.
There are a few problems with this line of thinking.
Let's be real here - I will accept that Democrats haven't been perfect angels over the last four years, but let's not pretend that, at least to some degree, that response wasn't provoked. Trump was never interested in solidarity, either. He spent a good chunk of his time on Twitter mocking his opponents. He reveled in that. A rancor built up, and we can argue all day about who's responsible for most of it, but I don't think you or anyone can say he had no part in that.
Now, to look back, as I recall, Trump spent the bulk of Obama's presidency not only mocking the man at every turn, but also spreading conspiracy theories about his birth. He was one of the leaders of that charge, one of its most outspoken mouthpieces.
Nonetheless, Obama was at Trump's inauguration. He sat next to the man. He shook hands with the man. He was cordial with a guy who spent no small amount of effort trying to get him kicked out of office, who spread lies about him. I can't read Obama's mind, but I suspect the reason he was there was because he wanted to add some legitimacy, to help the transition of power along. A symbolic gesture.
So, all of this is to say that, while I think there are good reasons for Trump not to be there, I don't see 'the opposing party was mean to me' as one of them.
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I mean, apart from anything else - the racism across the right when so many of the poor dears couldn't cope with a non-white president. The unwillingness from the getgo of the GOP of that time to work with Obama on principle. That...wasn't insulting? Or somehow less insulting?
And they think it's worse when people call their man now (who is, among other things, an idiot) an idiot. As for trying to get rid of Trump via impeachment - trying to abjure policy to get dirty on your political opponent is clearly not very serious when compared to lying about schtupping the intern that one time.
I accept that some of these people are going to lie to themselves, but they can do that in private, rather than insisting that those of us that remember history join in with their charade.
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I would not be surprised if he goes to Florida this weekend or next and does not return to Washington. I believe the sooner he is out of town, the better it is for him, for Biden, and for Washington.
You know it's pretty standard practice when our pastor moves on that he or she doesn't get involved in our church affairs, come back to do weddings, funerals, and the like to let our church settle into a new reality with our new pastor. The same has often held true in departing Presidents giving the new President a chance without commenting at least through the early part of their term until election time. President Trump can do much to let the country heal and move on or he can be a catalyst for continuing discord. I hope he chooses the former, but I have little confidence he will.
You know it's pretty standard practice when our pastor moves on that he or she doesn't get involved in our church affairs, come back to do weddings, funerals, and the like to let our church settle into a new reality with our new pastor. The same has often held true in departing Presidents giving the new President a chance without commenting at least through the early part of their term until election time. President Trump can do much to let the country heal and move on or he can be a catalyst for continuing discord. I hope he chooses the former, but I have little confidence he will.
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That's not much of an admission. LOL
I disagree with the provisos you felt you needed to put on the record before getting to that "I don't think you or anyone can say he had no part in that" conclusion. Nevertheless, we can admit to him having become sharp-edged the more he's been mistreated by his enemies, that's right.
That's a popular lie on the part of the left.
The concern about Obama's birthplace was voiced by many people. He could show no birth certificate after years of this being in the news. His own family in Kenya talked as though he was born there. The Democratic Governor of Hawaii took it upon himself to say he was going to get to the bottom of this matter by personally going over the records and finding the evidence; later he had to admit that he'd done that and could find no birth certificate for Obama.
Now, Trump did chime in on that criticism, it's true. But if you are going to say that, you need also to admit that the Dems did the same thing with McCain. No apologies were forthcoming for that attack, of course. And Trump dropped his talk about Obama's birthplace, saying that he accepted that Obama was born in Hawaii. How that makes him the special villain in this story makes no sense although it's a favorite, go-to, attack line of his enemies ever since.
Was he being called, by the Speaker of the House and other members of Congress, an insurrectionist, guilty of sedition, a terrorist who should be expelled from the White House by force, and/or impeached with only 13 days to go in his term of office?
The answer is NO! And if you don't see any difference here, there's not much more to say.
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