NOW we must be bipartisan.

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Your lying to our faces right here and now. Obama was one of the biggest brown nosers for the republcain party it's why many hated him and he the democrats lost the senate in 2010. Might want to learn more history.

1 John 3:14-19

"We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death. Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth."
 
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Your lying to our faces right here and now. Obama was one of the biggest brown nosers for the republcain party it's why many hated him and he the democrats lost the senate in 2010. Might want to learn more history.

Obama was do moderate I remember talk of putting Russ Feingold up as a primary challenge to him in 2012 to keep Obama from drifting too far right. Will Obama face a primary challenger in 2012?
 
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All right, that's a reasonable approach.

However, have you been listening to the victorious Democrats lately, including their top leaders? There is no suggestion of bipartisanship coming from Schumer or Pelosi or some of the others. It's quite the opposite, in fact. They are gloating that now they will be free to totally make over the USA in their own image.

After yesterday I think it will take time for things to settle and calm minds to prevail. I'm guilty of getting caught up in the anger too and I doubt those in Congress or other positions of government are immune from anger or resentment either.

I know we'll disagree on Trump, but it's my opinion, as it is the opinion of many others too, that Trump has done a tremendous amount of damage socially and politically and the only way that's ever going to improve is to build bridges, tone down the rhetoric on both sides and come together. Neither side are free from fault in this past decade so who knows, maybe this is the Administration that will make progress in fixing the divide.

Genuinely I believe a lot of progress can be made without a great deal of effort. If we quit sniping at each other then we're less likely to get sucked in and descend into that nonsense and I'm definitely guilty of that myself, however I've always found (at least when losing weight) it's easier to control my environment than it is my own actions (in the context of healthier eating, if the junk food isn't there to begin with then I don't have to resist temptation), so I think if we tried to improve the environment and there were fewer opportunities for things to become heated then we'd start seeing gradual progress.

We'll see. I remain hopeful but again, it may be business as usual except those front and centre wearing blue ties for the next 4 years instead of red, but I hope that isn't the case. Another cycle of this is only going to make things far worse and far harder to come back from.
 
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1 John 3:14-19

"We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death. Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth."

If you can't remember the past just admit it, anyone that dealt with 8 years of Obama that is on the left remembers how infuriatingly bipartisan he was. He really really tried hard to get the right to like him, took him most of his presidency to stop doing so.
 
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There was zero bipartisan about Obama.. just love it when history gets rewritten right in front of my eyes as if I'm so stupid.. lol

Shows what the left thinks of our intelligence though..

Have fun with your attack the right show in this thread.. hatred for the right is exceedingly apparent... lovely..

A lot of political scientists disagree.

About half of our academics said the Republicans refused to compromise with the Obama administration from the start.

Some said they were pushed by the steep rise of conservatism among the average Republican.


Obameter: Bipartisanship | PolitiFact
 
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Can you explain to me how US society hasn't drifted towards more left leaning positions over the last ten or fifteen years?

-Homosexuality legalized
-Trans acceptance
-Obamacare
-Increasing state authority over Corona virus
-Increase of the bureaucratic regime
-Online censorship escalated
-A debt which only continues to escalate with each president.

What are the issues conservatives have won at exactly? Like from a long term perspective? Am I missing something or do we live in two alternate realities?

Bi-partisanship means both sides getting what they want but also what they don't want.
It's not about winning for the conservatives, its about the opponent losing.

But when you only defend and never attack, you fall behind. They should start criminalising more things and making people suffer. But that will have to wait at least 4 more years.
 
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I can't remember a time in the last decade the dems have been bipartisan and opted to work with the republicans...

I don't expect it to change, even if it will destroy our country not to... they are trying to burn the nation down for a decade, why stop now?

We are just the unwashed masses after all, that deserve death and despair, according to the left. Or so we are led to believe. If you believed we were human beings with worthwhile opinions, thoughts and ideas, you would have worked with us in a bipartisan manner at some point this last decade or so... but you haven't done it. Not expecting anything now...

I'm just waiting for the secret police to come get me for the reeducation camp... since I'm not socially acceptable or something.. lol
were you asleep during the entire Obama presidency. he would give the republicans massive concessions and they would still balk. he nomonated a moderate for the SCOTUS and their response was to block it for a year and then ram 3 justices through before RBGs corpse could cool off.
 
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and his first move is to offer his queen
By the statements his queen has made lately I wouldn't be surprised if M pulled a Hillary and ran for top job soon. She seems to think her comments carry weight for some reason.
 
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Perhaps some good will come out of yesterday's riot? Maybe Congress will finally start putting the interests of the country ahead of partisan politics?
Over half of the Republicans in the house still voted to object to the electors from several states. So that's a no.
 
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I was sick of it when Biden came out with that kind of schpeel only days after the election and then had the gall, at the same time, to start playing president as though he were already inaugurated.
Filling a vacuum, clearly.
 
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Your lying to our faces right here and now. Obama was one of the biggest brown nosers for the republcain party it's why many hated him and he the democrats lost the senate in 2010. Might want to learn more history.

The right isn't interested in knowing or learning history. They have their own version of history, completely devoid of facts, in which the GOP sought bipartisanship, and the evil Dems would have none of it.

It's lies like this which paved the way for Trump to tell grander and more brazen falsehoods from day 1.
 
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There was zero bipartisan about Obama..

What about the Affordable Care Act, which some call "Obamacare"?

The ACA is based on a plan devised by the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation, as an alternative to single payer plans that some Democrats were considering. It is a very conservative idea, based on ensuring everyone gets private health insurance, governed by the free market.

The GOP once favored this plan, in fact.

It was only when Obama and other Democrats proposed it that the GOP rejected it. Why they were suddenly opposed to ideas they previously agreed with, they never said.

-- A2SG, doesn't get much more bipartisan to go with the other side's idea.......
 
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12 years of republicans fighting anything democrats do, 10 years of mconnel refusing to allow any democrat stuff to be voted on. 4 years of trump ignoring democrats. But NOW republicans have lost congress, house and presidency, NOW we must be bi partisan and act together.

Anyone else sick of this? There are some things sure we can try to be bipartisan on, but there are many issues like climate change we can't wait another presidency to fix.

Lol nah, this is no time for bipartisanship, because the GOP and their increasingly insane fanbase haven't been up for that in over a decade.

The Dems have a majority. Push reforms through, and smash fascist networks into oblivion. You will not have a country in four or perhaps even two years otherwise.
 
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I am still hopeful for a Senate that acts in a bipartisan manner. The riots may have been a good thing for this. The Republicans are no longer a single block of lunatics. It indicates reasonable legislation should be passable. To end a filibuster they only need to convince 10 Republicans to oppose such an action. They do not actually have to vote for the proposed bills. All they have to do is to convince ten Republicans to be fair and we have seen that only 20% of the Republican Senators are beyond hope.

I really wouldn't be this quick to conclude substantial change to the Republican party based on one day of violence. Even this can quickly be forgotten.
 
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Lol nah, this is no time for bipartisanship, because the GOP and their increasingly insane fanbase haven't been up for that in over a decade.

The Dems have a majority. Push reforms through, and smash fascist networks into oblivion. You will not have a country in four or perhaps even two years otherwise.
What use is voting for the democrats if you only get republican policies?
 
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I'm curious...where was all this talk of bipartisanship during the Obama administration?

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."
-- Mitch McConnell, National Journal, Oct. 23, 2010

-- A2SG, how'd that work out for ya, Mitch?
 
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