When will you accept the results of the Presidential election?

When will you accept the Presidential election results?

  • I already have--Biden is our President-elect.

    Votes: 45 67.2%
  • When the Supreme Court decides the Texas case.

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • When the Supreme Court decides the Texas case, but only if they decide in favor of Trump.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • When the Electoral College votes.

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • When the Electoral College votes, but only is they vote in favor of Trump.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • When Congress confirms the Electoral College results.

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • When Congress doesn’t approve of the Electoral College results and votes for Trump.

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • When Biden takes the oath of office.

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • I will never accept the election results--Trump won and the election was stolen from him.

    Votes: 16 23.9%

  • Total voters
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If the Supreme Court would have been asked to devise emergency measures based on the national state of emergency, or to approve such measures, this would be lawful given judicial supremacy.
32 states had either already expanded their mail in and absentee ballot voting procedures prior to 2020 or had preexisting laws dealing specifically with the expansion of absentee/mail-in voting in response to an emergency.

But my point is this should have been worked out in April or May.
an additional 14 states had made legislative of executive provisions for changes in voting relating to Covid 19 before your arbitrary time frame of June of 2020

Since that did not happen,
but it did happen in 46 states. The remaining 4 states made no changes to their voting procedures

we have had an illegitimate and unlawful election, in which numerous states deviated from their own election laws in a clumsy effort to accommodate an emergency which at present I think can only properly be accommodated by a new election once the pandemic is concerned.
the election was lawful and legitimate...sorry
 
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Actual judges have found otherwise.

Actual judges are too chicken. Give access and all this stuff will be answered. There is no reason to not give access based upon all the information and evidence.

I mean why not? What's there to hide? It's not like particular person is under criminal investigation. This is about a countries election.
 
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Actual judges are too chicken. Give access and all this stuff will be answered. There is no reason to not give access based upon all the information and evidence.

I mean why not? What's there to hide? It's not like particular person is under criminal investigation. This is about a countries election.

There was nothing to hide, and nobody hid anything. It is all in the mind of one deranged, demented senile old man in Depends who has delusions of grandeur and wants to be a dictator. Also, he doesn't want to face the many lawsuits waiting for him Jan21.
 
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Then you didn't pay attention because yes, he made such a threat. No, I'm not going to listen through it again to get the time stamp.

A transcript has been posted. Here are Trump's exact words:

"And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that's a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I've heard. And they are removing machinery and they're moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can't let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state."

"And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, cause you know, this is — it's a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don't know. A lot of people think it wasn't a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it's a big problem in Georgia and it's not a problem that's going away. I mean, you know, it's not a problem that's going away."

The complete transcript can be found here: Full transcript: Trump's audio call with Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger - CNNPolitics

He never threatened him with Criminal liability. No threats involved. He simply told him that it is criminal for him not to report criminal activity. And he's right. If he knows there is criminal activity and doesn't report it, it is criminal for him. What did Trump do wrong here. If I believe you know about criminal activity in this election and you have an obligation to report it I have a perfect right to tell you it's illegal not to.
 
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There was nothing to hide, and nobody hid anything. It is all in the mind of one deranged, demented senile old man in Depends who has delusions of grandeur and wants to be a dictator. Also, he doesn't want to face the many lawsuits waiting for him Jan21.

There are millions of Americans that believe they are hiding things due to all the evidence we have.
 
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He never threatened him with Criminal liability. No threats involved. He simply told him that it is criminal for him not to report criminal activity. And he's right. If he knows there is criminal activity and doesn't report it, it is criminal for him. What did Trump do wrong here. If I believe you know about criminal activity in this election and you have an obligation to report it I have a perfect right to tell you it's illegal not to.


Time will tell.
 
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There are millions of Americans that believe they are hiding things due to all the evidence we have.

Only those who follow a senile, narcistic old man in Depends. So far---there has been no evidence. Just hearsay and nonsense that judges have thrown out. It is only delusions of being a dictator and desperate fear of having to face the many lawsuits waiting for him Jan 21.
 
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He never threatened him with Criminal liability. No threats involved. He simply told him that it is criminal for him not to report criminal activity. And he's right. If he knows there is criminal activity and doesn't report it, it is criminal for him. What did Trump do wrong here. If I believe you know about criminal activity in this election and you have an obligation to report it I have a perfect right to tell you it's illegal not to.

Try reading what is written: "it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you're not reporting it." Note that he said that the Secretary of State was "not reporting it." He didn't say "if you're not reporting it." Those would be two different things.

You are so dedicated to Trump that you will say anything to support him. You ignore the fact that Trump lost over 50 cases; that judges, some of whom he and other Republicans appointed, said there was no evidence to support his case; that his own Attorney General told him that the wasn't enough fraud to sway the election. You need to start dealing with facts instead of the false claims that are posted on far-right websites.
 
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Actual judges are too chicken. Give access and all this stuff will be answered. There is no reason to not give access based upon all the information and evidence.

I mean why not? What's there to hide? It's not like particular person is under criminal investigation. This is about a countries election.
The judges are "too chicken?" These are highly trained men and women.

Exactly where is your law degree from?
 
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Really? You, of course have proof?
Me personally no but the evidence is out there for those who care to know. The emails on Hunters laptop tell a lot. The business partner who came forward and implicated Joe himself should at least cause concern, but most liberals I have interacted with are not interested in facts. Foolish diversions such as claiming the laptop was Russian disinformation are the responses. If I had a sworn statement from Joe himself admitting guilt most liberals would spin it into oblivion.
 
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And what about Trump having his children in White House positions which is clearly against the rules???
. And do you have proof this is “against the rules “?? Please site the law that is being broken by Trump.
 
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Prior to 1967, there were no legal restrictions on presidents appointing family members to jobs in the executive branch. However, that changed in 1967 when Congress included in the Postal Revenue and Federal Salary Act a section containing restrictions on government officials appointing family members to federal government jobs.[3] That section of the act, commonly known as the Federal Anti-Nepotism Statute, states,

“ A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual.[4][5]
The statute defines a public official as “an officer (including the President and a Member of Congress), a member of the uniformed service, an employee and any other individual, in whom is vested the authority by law, rule, or regulation, or to whom the authority has been delegated, to appoint, employ, promote, or advance individuals, or to recommend individuals for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement in connection with employment in an agency.”[4
In a 1993 ruling, Judge Laurence Silberman of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit suggested the anti-nepotism statute might not apply to presidential appointments of White House personnel. In his decision in Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Inc. v. Clinton, Silberman wrote,

“ Although [the statute] defines agency as 'an executive agency,' we doubt that Congress intended to include the White House or the Executive Office of the President. So, for example, a President would be barred from appointing his brother as Attorney General, but perhaps not as a White House special assistant.[9][5]
Silberman was ruling on whether federal open meetings laws applied to the President's Task Force on National Health Care Reform created in 1993 by President Bill Clinton and chaired by First Lady Hillary Clinton.[9] At issue in the case was whether Hillary Clinton, in her capacity as head of the task force, could be considered an employee of the federal government. Since the anti-nepotism statute was not at issue in the case, Silberman’s opinion had effect on its legal status.

Hillary Clinton’s appointment to the task force is the only instance of a president appointing a family member to a position in the executive branch since the passage of the anti-nepotism statute.[3]

Ivanka and her husband are both looking at lawsuits for corruption --there are millions of dollars missing that they were responsible for that were used to poy family instead---so we shall see what happens after Jan21.
 
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Prior to 1967, there were no legal restrictions on presidents appointing family members to jobs in the executive branch. However, that changed in 1967 when Congress included in the Postal Revenue and Federal Salary Act a section containing restrictions on government officials appointing family members to federal government jobs.[3] That section of the act, commonly known as the Federal Anti-Nepotism Statute, states,

“ A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual.[4][5]
The statute defines a public official as “an officer (including the President and a Member of Congress), a member of the uniformed service, an employee and any other individual, in whom is vested the authority by law, rule, or regulation, or to whom the authority has been delegated, to appoint, employ, promote, or advance individuals, or to recommend individuals for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement in connection with employment in an agency.”[4
In a 1993 ruling, Judge Laurence Silberman of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit suggested the anti-nepotism statute might not apply to presidential appointments of White House personnel. In his decision in Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Inc. v. Clinton, Silberman wrote,

“ Although [the statute] defines agency as 'an executive agency,' we doubt that Congress intended to include the White House or the Executive Office of the President. So, for example, a President would be barred from appointing his brother as Attorney General, but perhaps not as a White House special assistant.[9][5]
Silberman was ruling on whether federal open meetings laws applied to the President's Task Force on National Health Care Reform created in 1993 by President Bill Clinton and chaired by First Lady Hillary Clinton.[9] At issue in the case was whether Hillary Clinton, in her capacity as head of the task force, could be considered an employee of the federal government. Since the anti-nepotism statute was not at issue in the case, Silberman’s opinion had effect on its legal status.

Hillary Clinton’s appointment to the task force is the only instance of a president appointing a family member to a position in the executive branch since the passage of the anti-nepotism statute.[3]

Ivanka and her husband are both looking at lawsuits for corruption --there are millions of dollars missing that they were responsible for that were used to poy family instead---so we shall see what happens after Jan21.
And after pointing out the corruption you believe Trump has committed are you ok with the millions if not more Hunter made off of his dads name??? Hunter giving his dad 10% by his own admission is ok too????
 
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And after pointing out the corruption you believe Trump has committed are you ok with the millions if not more Hunter made off of his dads name??? Hunter giving his dad 10% by his own admission is ok too????


Both accusations need to be proven in court. Time will tell.
 
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And after pointing out the corruption you believe Trump has committed are you ok with the millions if not more Hunter made off of his dads name??? Hunter giving his dad 10% by his own admission is ok too????
...PSA: when shifting goalposts remember to lift with your legs, not your back! :football:
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