WHEN WAS CHRIST CRUCIFIED?

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

All of this has already been explained to you. The entire feast is sometimes called Passover. The Passover is on the 14th, when the lambs were killed, not the 15th, which is the 1st day of unleavened. John says you are wrong too. And Paul. And Leviticus and Deuteronomy...

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WINNER! Absolutely Yesh! This is shown I believe very clearly in the scriptures. (Sorry I cannot normal rate anyones post at the moment)

LoveGodsWord said:

WINNER! Absolutely Yesh! This is shown I believe very clearly in the scriptures. (Sorry I cannot normal rate anyone post at the moment)

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Yes it has! He, however, wants and needs to discount all of it in trying to prove his unscriptural erroneous theory...we can only provide him truth. You can lead a horse to water...

I made a table summary that might be helpful here...
Hope this is helpful

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I guess you have not read scripture? The 14th is Passover, when the lambs were killed, not the 15th, which is the 1st of unleavened. I tried to explain all this to you and so did Bob, but you just keep to your theory. I never said they had an early Passover meal, I told you it was a Seudah HaMafsekhet Pesakh (because it was on the 14th, it could be called that). All Seudot have elements of the feast after it. He was THE LAMB OF GOD...

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No, I have been trying to explain this to you! The afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread, when the passover was killed. And as you say, "the 14th is Passover, when the lambs were killed." So the afternoon preceding the last supper was the afternoon of the 14th day. Therefore, Jesus, who died the next day, died on the 15th.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

The day the lambs were killed was the 14th...Pesakh. The 1st of unleavened is the 15th. Read Leviticus and Deuteronomy...

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All leaven had to be removed before the sacrifices were made. The first day of unleavened bread was the 14th. The first day of the feast of unleavened bread was the 15th.

LoveGodsWord said:

I believe your scripture proofs dear friend have been directly dealt with in some detail already to show your interpretation of them is not a correct one in post # 46. All you have done here is to repeat what you posted the first time without addressing anything shared with you through the scriptures from both the old and new testament that prove your interpretation is in contradiction with the scriptures shown in previous posts.

Actually, you do indeed have a direct contradiction of the scriptures. Your interpretation of the synoptic gospel scriptures you have provided above disagree with both the scriptures of the old testament as shown in the first linked post (post # 46) from Numbers 28:16:25; Exodus 12:2-11; Leviticus 23:4-8. For example, your interpretation has the sacrifice of Jesus occurring on Nisan 15 as opposed to the preparation of the feasts on Nisan 14. You are in contradiction here because as pointed out in post # 46 through the scriptures, the preparation of the Feasts (Nissan 14 which is day 1/8) is not the same as partaking of the Feasts which start on Nisan 15.

All the scriptures you have provided are in harmony with what has been shared with you here already. This is also exactly what John is saying in John 13:1-5 which show that the events of his crucifixion was a day before the feast of Passover putting the time period to day 1/8 which is the beginning of the preparation of the Feasts of Passover and Unleavened bread (Nisan 14).

Even Paul agrees with what is being shared with you here in 1 Corinthians 5:7-8 where he says Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us agreeing with the scriptures dates of Nisan 14 not Nisan 15 where you have it.

You of course are free to believe as you wish and it is always good to have a friendly discussion. Of course we will have to agree to disagree for the reasons already shown through the scriptures. I am sure we can continue in friendly discussion even if we do not agree on some things.

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They have NOT been dealt with. Mark and Luke both explicitly state that the afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread, when the passover was killed.

All the arguments being presented against my position are round about and circular. They do NOT address this issue. I'M not contradicting anything.

These two passage deserve a credible explanation if they are to be dismissed in favor of a theological position rather than a factual and historical one.

And for the record, I'm not alone in this point of view. Men of good reputation, like Alfred Edersheim, are in agreement with me. There's no denying that the afternoon preceding the last supper was the afternoon of the 14th. All you can do is ignore it. You can't argue it. None of you can. None of you have. You just keep arguing around it as though your points somehow negate it.

But they don't!

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

The Passover was killed on the 14th, ON Passover, NOT on the 15th which is the 1st of unleavened. Any Jew will tell you this.

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Where is it that you keep getting this notion that I think the passover is killed on the 15th? Is it because you are conflating the first day of unleavened bread with the first day of the feast of unleavened bread? Is it because Jesus is our passover, and your theology won't let you acknowledge his death on the 15th? Where is the confusion here?

The passover is killed on the 14th. We are in agreement on this. And Mark and Luke both say that the afternoon preceding the last supper was the day when the passover must be killed.

The first day of unleavened bread is also the 14th. All leaven had to be removed from the home and burned before the sacrifices could be made. So the first day of the days of unleavened bread was the 14th. And Mark and Luke both say that the afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread.

The first day of the feast of unleavened bread was the 15th.

Whether or not Jesus was our symbolic passover lamb, he nevertheless ate the last supper following the afternoon of the 14th, which was the first day of unleavened bread, and the day when the passover was killed. Two Gospels testify to this directly. No interpretation required. Since he was killed the following day, his death was on the 15th.

So what is the source of the confusion between us here? Is it your symbolism? Are you insistent that Jesus had to die on the 14th? What is it? What is the problem? Why can I not get you to see and acknowledge two blatant passages?

LoveGodsWord said:

Just wondering if it would really make any difference? I have already answered the scriptures you believe support your position earlier tracing old and new testament origins showing that the proof scriptures you provide do not agree with your interpretation of them. Your response was to simply ignore the content and scriptures that address your interpretation of the scriptures you shared with us that you believe support your position. (see post # 46).

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I read post 46. All of it. It doesn't address the two passages in question. They both contain two blatant statements.

1) It was the first day of unleavened bread. Since all leaven had to be removed and destroyed on the 14th prior to the sacrifice, the 14th is the first day of the days of unleavened bread, not to be confused with the feast of unleavened bread, which begins on the 15th.

2) It was the day when the passover had to be killed. That's the 14th of the month. It was sacrificed around 2:00 p.m. on the day of the 14th.

Mark and Luke both make these plain statements concerning the afternoon leading up to the last supper. I sincerely do not understand how it is that there is so much trouble in communicating this. No interpretation is required. The afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread (the 14th), when the passover must be killed (the 14th), and two disciples were sent to make ready the passover, and they did as instructed and made ready the passover.

So tell me where the breakdown is. I honestly feel like I'm in one of those arguments with the Sadducees, where they are trying to make as many logical arguments as they can to get around the scriptural reality that the soul does not die with the body. Jesus silenced them with the tense of a verb, and I'm having trouble getting people to acknowledge two blatant statements. What is the problem? In what way have these statements been answered or discounted? Telling me how what they plainly said couldn't be so because of logical arguments doesn't change the fact that they said what they said.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Yes it has! He, however, wants and needs to discount all of it in trying to prove his unscriptural erroneous theory...we can only provide him truth. You can lead a horse to water...

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I don't appreciate your lies or condescension. My "theory" is nothing BUT scripture. And talking about me like I'm a moron is insulting.

There are two scriptures. You haven't answered them. They say what I'm saying. I'm just quoting them.

LoveGodsWord said:

I made a table summary that might be helpful here...View attachment 292313
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This chart does not accurately reflect what the scriptures say. You are applying your own assumptions in contradiction to the text. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all specifically say that the last supper was the passover.

AFrazier said:

This chart does not accurately reflect what the scriptures say. You are applying your own assumptions in contradiction to the text. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all specifically say that the last supper was the passover.

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I am sorry friend I believe you are wrong and only and only repeating yourself here without addressing anything that has been shared with you through the old and new testament scriptures. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Thanks for sharing your view though. To me it is not biblical. The scriptures you did provide were absolutely addressed through old and new testament scripture application. You only chose not to believe them and have your interpretation of Matthew, Mark and Luke in contradiction to John and Paul.

AFrazier said:

I read post 46. All of it. It doesn't address the two passages in question. They both contain two blatant statements.

1) It was the first day of unleavened bread. Since all leaven had to be removed and destroyed on the 14th prior to the sacrifice, the 14th is the first day of the days of unleavened bread, not to be confused with the feast of unleavened bread, which begins on the 15th.

2) It was the day when the passover had to be killed. That's the 14th of the month. It was sacrificed around 2:00 p.m. on the day of the 14th.

Mark and Luke both make these plain statements concerning the afternoon leading up to the last supper. I sincerely do not understand how it is that there is so much trouble in communicating this. No interpretation is required. The afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread (the 14th), when the passover must be killed (the 14th), and two disciples were sent to make ready the passover, and they did as instructed and made ready the passover.

So tell me where the breakdown is. I honestly feel like I'm in one of those arguments with the Sadducees, where they are trying to make as many logical arguments as they can to get around the scriptural reality that the soul does not die with the body. Jesus silenced them with the tense of a verb, and I'm having trouble getting people to acknowledge two blatant statements. What is the problem? In what way have these statements been answered or discounted? Telling me how what they plainly said couldn't be so because of logical arguments doesn't change the fact that they said what they said.

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Matthew 26:17 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread...

(Note: day 1/8 - Passover and Unleavened bread often called by the same name Passover preparation starting Nisan 14 included slaying of the lambs and removing all Leaven from the house and making of unleavened breads for the week long Feasts that start Nisan 15 (7 days). A day starts in the evening not day time in Jewish reckoning of the days as it does in English. The timings here are shown in Numbers 28:16:25; Exodus 12:2-11; Leviticus 23:4-8. Continuing...

the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Where will you have us prepare for you to eat the Passover?” He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and say to him, ‘The Teacher says, My time is at hand. I will keep the Passover at your house with my disciples.’” And the disciples did as Jesus had directed them, and they prepared the Passover.

Observe the mention of “the first day of Unleavened Bread.” This is not specifically the Feast of Unleavened Bread lasting seven days beginning on Nisan 15, but the first of eight days in which unleavened bread is to be eaten. That this is the proper understanding is confirmed by the words “prepare…to eat.” They refer to slaughtering the lamb just as Nisan 14 begins at evening, and along with it preparing the unleavened bread and bitter herbs which are part and parcel with the meal as laid out in Exodus 12.

Mark 14:12-16 On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed [i.e., on Nisan 14], His disciples said to Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?” “…go into the city, and a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him; and wherever he enters, say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher says, “Where is My guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?’ And he himself will show you a large upper room furnished and ready; prepare for us there.” The disciples went out and came to the city, and found it just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.

This is the same as the previous verses from the last section in Matthew 26:17 and does not include the Greek word for “feast,” heorte, as in Luke 22:1 below (“Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is called the Passover, was approaching”). As noted earlier, the truncated expression, “Unleavened Bread” without “the feast of,” is the broad use described in Exodus 12:18. Therefore, “first day” as used here refers to Nisan 14 preparation, not to the first day of the strictly-defined (in Exodus 12, Numbers 28 and Leviticus 23) Feast of Unleavened Bread that starts on Nisan 15. The focus of Mark 14:12 is not on the festival as a whole, but specifically on preparation of the Feasts.

Luke 22:1; 7-13 Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called the Passover….Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. So Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.” They said to him, “Where will you have us prepare it?” He said to them, “Behold, when you have entered the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him into the house that he enters and tell the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says to you, Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ And he will show you a large upper room furnished; prepare it there.” And they went and found it just as he had told them, and they prepared the Passover .

The emphasized words give the keys to understanding this passage, which corresponds perfectly with what Matthew and Mark reported. Luke begins by talking about the formally-defined Feast of Unleavened Bread held from Nisan 15-21 inclusive, then his focus switches to Nisan 14, the day the Passover lamb was slaughtered and on which unleavened bread was eaten for the first time as part of the complex of Passover-related events. “Prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it” means just what it says—kill the lamb as Nisan 14 begins and also bake the unleavened bread, so the meal can be eaten.

John 13:1-2 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end. During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him.

Here we have the expression, “Feast of the Passover.” “Feast of” should be understood as a technical term, marking this as a mention of the Feast of Unleavened Bread starting on Nisan 15, of which the Passover seder meal on Nisan 14 was part of the whole complex of events. Since the verse continues with mentions of the “hour” of His departure (the Crucifixion), the reference to “during supper,” and the betrayal of Judas which we know took place in the wee hours of the night on Nisan 14, the supper mentioned must be one and the same as the Passover seder described in the other Gospels.

John 19:14-16 14, And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he said to the Jews, Behold your King! 15, But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate said to them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. 16, Then delivered he him therefore to them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

As shown in the above scriptures after the context is after Jesus had the last supper with his disciples and it was the preparation of the Passover about the 6th hour when Jesus was already captured and sent on trial so it is impossible for the crucifixion to be Nissan 15 according to the scriptures. In fact if you also look at the timing for Mark 14:12 you will see that context shows it was 2 days before the Feast of Passover and unleavened bread in Mark 14:1-2 where v12 is supports what is beings shared with you that it is the preparation of the Passover and unleavened bread.

This is also verified by Paul when he says in his First Epistle to the Corinthians, that Jesus died on a 14 Nisan ("sacrificed as a Passover lamb", 1 Corinthians 5:7), and was resurrected on the Jewish festival of the first fruits, i.e. on a 16 Nisan (1 Corinthians 15:20).

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So in summary according to the scriptures

Of course you are free to simply repeat yourself and to believe as you wish. I do not see any contradictions in interpretation with this view of the scriptures shared with you here. Your interpretation by not understanding the old testament Feast timings has Matthew Mark and Luke disagreeing with John and Paul

LoveGodsWord said:

Matthew 26:17 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread...

(Note: day 1/8 - Nisan 14 preparation of the Feasts starting Nisan 15. A day starts in the evening not day time in Jewish reckoning of the days as it does in English. The timings here are shown in Numbers 28:16:25; Exodus 12:2-11; Leviticus 23:4-8. Continuing...

the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Where will you have us prepare for you to eat the Passover?” He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and say to him, ‘The Teacher says, My time is at hand. I will keep the Passover at your house with my disciples.’” And the disciples did as Jesus had directed them, and they prepared the Passover.

Observe the mention of “the first day of Unleavened Bread.” This is not specifically the Feast of Unleavened Bread lasting seven days beginning on Nisan 15, but the first of eight days in which unleavened bread is to be eaten. That this is the proper understanding is confirmed by the words “prepare…to eat.” They refer to slaughtering the lamb just as Nisan 14 begins at evening, and along with it preparing the unleavened bread and bitter herbs which are part and parcel with the meal as laid out in Exodus 12.

Mark 14:12-16 On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed [i.e., on Nisan 14], His disciples said to Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?” “…go into the city, and a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him; and wherever he enters, say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher says, “Where is My guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?’ And he himself will show you a large upper room furnished and ready; prepare for us there.” The disciples went out and came to the city, and found it just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.

This is the same as the previous verses from the last section in Matthew 26:17 and does not include the Greek word for “feast,” heorte, as in Luke 22:1 below (“Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is called the Passover, was approaching”). As noted earlier, the truncated expression, “Unleavened Bread” without “the feast of,” is the broad use described in Exodus 12:18. Therefore, “first day” as used here refers to Nisan 14 preparation, not to the first day of the strictly-defined (in Exodus 12, Numbers 28 and Leviticus 23) Feast of Unleavened Bread that starts on Nisan 15. The focus of Mark 14:12 is not on the festival as a whole, but specifically on preparation of the Feasts.

Luke 22:1; 7-13 Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called the Passover….Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. So Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.” They said to him, “Where will you have us prepare it?” He said to them, “Behold, when you have entered the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him into the house that he enters and tell the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says to you, Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ And he will show you a large upper room furnished; prepare it there.” And they went and found it just as he had told them, and they prepared the Passover .

The emphasized words give the keys to understanding this passage, which corresponds perfectly with what Matthew and Mark reported. Luke begins by talking about the formally-defined Feast of Unleavened Bread held from Nisan 15-21 inclusive, then his focus switches to Nisan 14, the day the Passover lamb was slaughtered and on which unleavened bread was eaten for the first time as part of the complex of Passover-related events. “Prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it” means just what it says—kill the lamb as Nisan 14 begins and also bake the unleavened bread, so the meal can be eaten.

John 13:1-2 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end. During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him.

Here we have the expression, “Feast of the Passover.” “Feast of” should be understood as a technical term, marking this as a mention of the Feast of Unleavened Bread starting on Nisan 15, of which the Passover seder meal on Nisan 14 was part of the whole complex of events. Since the verse continues with mentions of the “hour” of His departure (the Crucifixion), the reference to “during supper,” and the betrayal of Judas which we know took place in the wee hours of the night on Nisan 14, the supper mentioned must be one and the same as the Passover seder described in the other Gospels.

John 19:14-16 14, And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he said to the Jews, Behold your King! 15, But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate said to them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. 16, Then delivered he him therefore to them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

As shown in the above scriptures after the context is after Jesus had the last supper with his disciples and it was the preparation of the Passover about the 6th hour when Jesus was already captured and sent on trial so it is impossible for the crucifixion to be Nissan 15 according to the scriptures. In fact if you also look at the timing for Mark 14:12 you will see that context shows it was 2 days before the Feast of Passover and unleavened bread in Mark 14:1-2 where v12 is supports what is beings shared with you that it is the preparation of the Passover and unleavened bread.

This is also verified by Paul when he says in his First Epistle to the Corinthians, that Jesus died on a 14 Nisan ("sacrificed as a Passover lamb", 1 Corinthians 5:7), and was resurrected on the Jewish festival of the first fruits, i.e. on a 16 Nisan (1 Corinthians 15:20).

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Of course you are free to simply repeat yourself and to believe as you wish. I do not see any contradictions in interpretation with this view of the scriptures shared with you here. Your interpretation by not understanding the old testament Feast timings has Matthew Mark and Luke disagreeing with John and Paul

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Paul recognized Jesus as our symbolic passover, but did not say he died on the 14th.

The "preparation of the passover" merely means that it was the day of preparation during passover week. It would be the same as saying that it was the Friday of passover.

It was illegal to kill the passover lamb at night.

Mark and Luke are plain as day. The context is not in the least bit confusing. It was the first day of unleavened bread. It was the day the lamb was supposed to be killed. The disciples inquired where he wanted them to prepare the passover so he could keep the festival. He told them where to go and who to find, and they went and prepared the passover.

Your view is nothing but confirmation bias. You're seeing what you want to see.

I don't want to argue with you anymore. Either of you. If you can't acknowledge plain scripture, this is utterly fruitless.

AFrazier said:

Paul recognized Jesus as our symbolic passover, but did not say he died on the 14th.

The "preparation of the passover" merely means that it was the day of preparation during passover week. It would be the same as saying that it was the Friday of passover.

It was illegal to kill the passover lamb at night.

Mark and Luke are plain as day. The context is not in the least bit confusing. It was the first day of unleavened bread. It was the day the lamb was supposed to be killed. The disciples inquired where he wanted them to prepare the passover so he could keep the festival. He told them where to go and who to find, and they went and prepared the passover.

Your view is nothing but confirmation bias. You're seeing what you want to see.

I don't want to argue with you anymore. Either of you. If you can't acknowledge plain scripture, this is utterly fruitless.

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Paul was a Pharisee who of course knew these old testament scriptures Numbers 28:16-25; Exodus 12:2-11; Leviticus 23:4-8 and that the Passover lambs were sacrificed Nisan 14 (day 1/8 prep for Passover and Unleavened bread Feasts starting Nisan 15) and eaten at the Feast of Passover and Unleavened bread on Nisan 15 (7 day feast with unleavened bread; day starting in the evening not morning - biblical day) according to the scriptures of the old testament quoted above. There is no bias in the scriptures shared with you, only the scriptures from the old explaining the new. None of the scripture from all gospel are confusing if you understand the old testament Passover timings and the terms that were used in those days. Paul would have known that Jesus could not have been the paschal lamb of Passover if his death was Nisan 15 as the lamb had to be slain and prepared for the Passover Feast (Nisan 15 - day 2/8) on Nisan 14 (day 1/8) according to the old testament scriptures posted above.

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Mark and Luke are plain as day. The context is not in the least bit confusing. It was the first day of unleavened bread. It was the day the lamb was supposed to be killed. The disciples inquired where he wanted them to prepare the passover so he could keep the festival. He told them where to go and who to find, and they went and prepared the passover.

Your view is nothing but confirmation bias. You're seeing what you want to see.

I don't want to argue with you anymore. Either of you. If you can't acknowledge plain scripture, this is utterly fruitless.

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You do not want to because you can't. Yes, the scriptures are quite clear! The 1st day of unleavened is the 15th...Passover is the 14th. The lambs are not killed on the 15th and the 14th is not the 1st of unleavened...

...in the fourteenth day of the first month at even is YHVH/(the-LORD’s) Passover. and on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread unto YHVH/(the-LORD): seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. in the first day ye shall have a Holy Convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto YHVH/(the-LORD) seven days: in the seventh day is a Holy Convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

AFrazier said:

I don't appreciate your lies or condescension. My "theory" is nothing BUT scripture. And talking about me like I'm a moron is insulting.

There are two scriptures. You haven't answered them. They say what I'm saying. I'm just quoting them.

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I have answered everything...BTW, are burials allowed on the 15th?? Were Jews allowed to buy items needed for burial on the 15th??

AFrazier said:

Where is it that you keep getting this notion that I think the passover is killed on the 15th? Is it because you are conflating the first day of unleavened bread with the first day of the feast of unleavened bread? Is it because Jesus is our passover, and your theology won't let you acknowledge his death on the 15th? Where is the confusion here?

The passover is killed on the 14th. We are in agreement on this. And Mark and Luke both say that the afternoon preceding the last supper was the day when the passover must be killed.

The first day of unleavened bread is also the 14th. All leaven had to be removed from the home and burned before the sacrifices could be made. So the first day of the days of unleavened bread was the 14th. And Mark and Luke both say that the afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread.

The first day of the feast of unleavened bread was the 15th.

Whether or not Jesus was our symbolic passover lamb, he nevertheless ate the last supper following the afternoon of the 14th, which was the first day of unleavened bread, and the day when the passover was killed. Two Gospels testify to this directly. No interpretation required. Since he was killed the following day, his death was on the 15th.

So what is the source of the confusion between us here? Is it your symbolism? Are you insistent that Jesus had to die on the 14th? What is it? What is the problem? Why can I not get you to see and acknowledge two blatant passages?

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Again, you cant or wont read scripture. The 1st of unleavened is the 15th...

in the fourteenth day of the first month at even is YHVH/(the-LORD’s) Passover. and on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread unto YHVH/(the-LORD): seven days ye must eat unleavened bread (evening of the 15th when the Pesakh meal begins-evening of the 21st) is 7 days). in the first day ye shall have a Holy Convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto YHVH/(the-LORD) seven days: in the seventh day is a Holy Convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

AFrazier said:

All leaven had to be removed before the sacrifices were made. The first day of unleavened bread was the 14th. The first day of the feast of unleavened bread was the 15th.

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Nowhere in scripture does it say that...

in the fourteenth day of the first month at even is YHVH/(the-LORD’s) Passover. and on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread unto YHVH/(the-LORD): seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. in the first day ye shall have a Holy Convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto YHVH/(the-LORD) seven days: in the seventh day is a Holy Convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Jesus died "at the ninth hour" of the day (Matthew 27:46–50, Mark 15:34–37). Luke 22:1 says that the feast was drawing closer (the 15th) so it was still the 14th. The 15th was a holy day with no work allowed and no commerce. The 1st day and 7th day were "sabbaths". Matthew says: At that time the chief priests and elders of the people assembled in the courtyard of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and they conspired to arrest Jesus secretly and kill him “But not during the feast,” they said, “or there may be a riot among the people.

AFrazier said:

No, I have been trying to explain this to you! The afternoon preceding the last supper was the first day of unleavened bread, when the passover was killed. And as you say, "the 14th is Passover, when the lambs were killed." So the afternoon preceding the last supper was the afternoon of the 14th day. Therefore, Jesus, who died the next day, died on the 15th.

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Unleavened was eaten from the Pesakh meal until the evening of the 21st...

AFrazier said:

And for the record, I'm not alone in this point of view. Men of good reputation, like Alfred Edersheim, are in agreement with me.

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No, Edersheim does not agree with you, you agree with Edersheim...