CHRIST RETURNS IN 2030?

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The health industry has been weaponized against us.

The very first experiment in this, as far as I can tell, was the anti-smoking campaign. They were able to turn half the population against the other half on the grounds that one groups behavior impacted the health of the other. And they prevailed. It's genius actually - you can get people to give up their freedom (or demand another group give up theirs) on the grounds of health.

And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. Job 2:4
 
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The very first experiment in this, as far as I can tell, was the anti-smoking campaign. They were able to turn half the population against the other half on the grounds that one groups behavior impacted the health of the other. And they prevailed. It's genius actually - you can get people to give up their freedom (or demand another group give up theirs) on the grounds of health.

And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. Job 2:4
The same was true of the Patriot Act. We gave up our freedom for "the greater good". (preservation) Yet nothing came of it and the restrictions still apply. Been to the airport recently? When they take rights away, they NEVER give them back.

With the Plandemic (dampanic - lol) they promised that we would only need to wear masks until the number of cases started to come down. But they have been working full time to make sure that never happens. Even through falsifying medical records/death certificates. The medical industry has been financially incentivized to "diagnose" Covid and to put people on ventilators. (which kills the patient, as I understand it) I haven't heard of anyone surviving a ventilator.
 
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The very first experiment in this, as far as I can tell, was the anti-smoking campaign. They were able to turn half the population against the other half on the grounds that one groups behavior impacted the health of the other. And they prevailed. It's genius actually - you can get people to give up their freedom (or demand another group give up theirs) on the grounds of health.

And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. Job 2:4
And who is the "enemy" currently? Anyone that is anti-mask, or anti-vaccine. "Enemies" that are "killing people".
 
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In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today? Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?

Scripture quotes Him saying, Behold, I have foretold you all things. Mark 13:23. An all encompassing statement like that could surely include when He would return, right? Yes, but my belief is we are tasked with finding where or how, in the Holy Bible, that ultimate mystery might be revealed; for it is also written we are not to know the time or the season of His return. Then again, we are expected to search the Scriptures, to study to show ourselves approved. Is this simply a test for us?

Let me put it this way; Our Father, our Lord and the Holy Spirit may want to see, by our actions, how much interest we really have in His Word, in every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That said, let's get back on topic; does the Bible tell us when we should expect to see our Lord? Try this, for I wouldn't want anyone to be ignorant of where to look. Did the Apostle Peter gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind?

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 11 Peter 3:8. This could be the Holy Spirit's way of saying, "Sharpen up kids, this is important!" And that is why I asked for opinions on when Christ was crucified. Two days ago, 2,000 years ago, the date was 20 AD. Today, we are now finishing 2020 AD. Humm.

Is it remotely possible, using the Holy Bible as the ultimate Reference Book, that Christ would be returning in 10 years, in 2030 AD? The atheists, even weak Christians, would say, "The man is mad! Don't listen to him, no one knows the exact date." That's true, but these are Scriptures we should consider; our Lord Jesus certainly would not want us to be ignorant of something He considered important, would He? Let's go deeper.

If our Beloved was crucified and resurrected in 30 AD then He would be gone from us for precisely 2 days in 2030 AD. Then what, what happens as we begin the 3rd day? The third day I shall be perfected the Lord told us in Luke 13:32. In Mark He said, After that He is killed, He shall rise the third day, and again in Mark, And the third day He shall rise again. Matthew tells us, The third day He shall be raised again, and also, And be raised again the third day.

It is commonly thought, and taught, and preached, the Scriptures were talking about 24 hour days here, and of course, they were. But what if the Holy Spirit wanted to teach us on several levels of understanding? Well, surely we would have known, something this profound could not be hidden for 2,000 years, could it?

And they shall scourge Him, and put Him to death: and the third day He shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:32

Am I safe in saying that all wisdom comes from God? Consider this: if the LORD doesn't want us to know something we won't know, until He deems it the appointed time to tell us. Actually, it may surprise many to know the LORD did tell us when to expect the return of His Son in the OLD Testament.

Come, and let us return onto the LORD: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up. After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 6:1

How about that, we are going to get raised up when the third day begins! Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this, so I'm not proclaiming the Lord's return on 2030. The two days might be finished on 2025 which would only leave us 5 years to end this flesh age. It might be 2035, which means we still have 15 years to get right with the LORD. Get right with the LORD, what does that mean?

Well, let's say we consider ourselves to be a righteous person, a person who always tries to do the right thing before the LORD, and before our fellow human beings. We need to make sure we stay that way, to be steadfast in our righteousness until this earth age is over. Put another way, let's keep the LORD happy with us.

If we are a wicked person, we need to repent, change our ways, and ask the LORD for His forgiveness; to wash away our sins with the blood of Jesus Christ. See, simple, we have a very loving Father Who is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 11Peter 3:9

That's it. Like king Jehoahaz, I hope we get the 15 years, I think our generation is going to need it!
I broadly agree but I don't think we can narrow down the year, decade or possibly even the century. If each day is a 1000 years and Christ returns on day 3 parallel to his resurrection then which hour did he resurrect? Because each hour is over 40 years so there is quite a bit of wiggle room. Jewish days are dusk to dusk so they begin at darkness, then possibly 12 hours later God says on the first day (the day Jesus resurrected) Let there be light to a dark desolate world. If Christ comes upon light which is sunrise this could be up to 500 years in the third day (1000/24*12). What you might be predicting is 12 hours of darkness before the light comes.

However this also assumes Christ was born at the begining of day 1 (hour 0, right at dusk). And in similar fashion he may have been born upon first light, 12 hours into the first day which would mean day 3 started quite some time ago and his return is about in 10 years as you suggest but at first sunrise (not sunset)

None of this may follow exact seconds either and may be more generally accurate which is more consistent with hebraic accounts (only the west obsesses over extact details). I think broadly the year 2000 is the third day and Christ will return on the third day but I can only narrow down the next 500 years.
 
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The same was true of the Patriot Act. We gave up our freedom for "the greater good". (preservation) Yet nothing came of it and the restrictions still apply. Been to the airport recently? When they take rights away, they NEVER give them back.

With the Plandemic (dampanic - lol) they promised that we would only need to wear masks until the number of cases started to come down. But they have been working full time to make sure that never happens. Even through falsifying medical records/death certificates. The medical industry has been financially incentivized to "diagnose" Covid and to put people on ventilators. (which kills the patient, as I understand it) I haven't heard of anyone surviving a ventilator.
And I work in the Senior Living industry which its mandatory for the vaccine for employees and residents. I'm currently in-between jobs so I have not had to get it yet but I will have to once I accept another position. I'm in California.
 
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And who is the "enemy" currently? Anyone that is anti-mask, or anti-vaccine. "Enemies" that are "killing people".

I had a chilling reading of Revelation 18:23 the other day, when substituting "sorceries" with "pharmacies" due to the underlying Greek being pharmakeia. One of those things that make you go hmmm

"... for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy [pharmacies] were all nations deceived."
 
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I had a chilling reading of Revelation 18:23 the other day, when substituting "sorceries" with "pharmacies" due to the underlying Greek being pharmakeia. One of those things that make you go hmmm

"... for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy [pharmacies] were all nations deceived."
Wow. What an interesting observation.
I just realized that is a potential Rapture scripture. What would have to happen to completely silence the voice of the bridegroom and the bride? (assuming a reference to Christ and the church)

Revelation 18:23
The light of a lamp
will never shine in you again.
The voice of bridegroom and bride
will never be heard in you again.
Your merchants were the world’s important people.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
 
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In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today? Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?

Scripture quotes Him saying, Behold, I have foretold you all things. Mark 13:23. An all encompassing statement like that could surely include when He would return, right? Yes, but my belief is we are tasked with finding where or how, in the Holy Bible, that ultimate mystery might be revealed; for it is also written we are not to know the time or the season of His return. Then again, we are expected to search the Scriptures, to study to show ourselves approved. Is this simply a test for us?

Let me put it this way; Our Father, our Lord and the Holy Spirit may want to see, by our actions, how much interest we really have in His Word, in every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That said, let's get back on topic; does the Bible tell us when we should expect to see our Lord? Try this, for I wouldn't want anyone to be ignorant of where to look. Did the Apostle Peter gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind?

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 11 Peter 3:8. This could be the Holy Spirit's way of saying, "Sharpen up kids, this is important!" And that is why I asked for opinions on when Christ was crucified. Two days ago, 2,000 years ago, the date was 20 AD. Today, we are now finishing 2020 AD. Humm.

Is it remotely possible, using the Holy Bible as the ultimate Reference Book, that Christ would be returning in 10 years, in 2030 AD? The atheists, even weak Christians, would say, "The man is mad! Don't listen to him, no one knows the exact date." That's true, but these are Scriptures we should consider; our Lord Jesus certainly would not want us to be ignorant of something He considered important, would He? Let's go deeper.

If our Beloved was crucified and resurrected in 30 AD then He would be gone from us for precisely 2 days in 2030 AD. Then what, what happens as we begin the 3rd day? The third day I shall be perfected the Lord told us in Luke 13:32. In Mark He said, After that He is killed, He shall rise the third day, and again in Mark, And the third day He shall rise again. Matthew tells us, The third day He shall be raised again, and also, And be raised again the third day.

It is commonly thought, and taught, and preached, the Scriptures were talking about 24 hour days here, and of course, they were. But what if the Holy Spirit wanted to teach us on several levels of understanding? Well, surely we would have known, something this profound could not be hidden for 2,000 years, could it?

And they shall scourge Him, and put Him to death: and the third day He shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:32

Am I safe in saying that all wisdom comes from God? Consider this: if the LORD doesn't want us to know something we won't know, until He deems it the appointed time to tell us. Actually, it may surprise many to know the LORD did tell us when to expect the return of His Son in the OLD Testament.

Come, and let us return onto the LORD: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up. After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 6:1

How about that, we are going to get raised up when the third day begins! Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this, so I'm not proclaiming the Lord's return on 2030. The two days might be finished on 2025 which would only leave us 5 years to end this flesh age. It might be 2035, which means we still have 15 years to get right with the LORD. Get right with the LORD, what does that mean?

Well, let's say we consider ourselves to be a righteous person, a person who always tries to do the right thing before the LORD, and before our fellow human beings. We need to make sure we stay that way, to be steadfast in our righteousness until this earth age is over. Put another way, let's keep the LORD happy with us.

If we are a wicked person, we need to repent, change our ways, and ask the LORD for His forgiveness; to wash away our sins with the blood of Jesus Christ. See, simple, we have a very loving Father Who is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 11Peter 3:9

That's it. Like king Jehoahaz, I hope we get the 15 years, I think our generation is going to need it!
God benefits from delaying His return. He is in a war with the devil for the souls of men. The longer it takes for Jesus to return, the more time there is to win as many people to Him as possible. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, I am more inclined to continue being a witness for the Lord, then to try and guess when He will return. Especially, given the fact He said, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone (Matthew 24:36)." Happy New Year.
 
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In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today?

Therein lies the problem with date setting. Too many assumptions have to be made.

There is no hard proof that our current calendar was started on the year of Jesus Birth. Scholars very in opinion swinging from 1 to 30 plus years.

Remember 88 reasons why Jesus is coming in 1988?

It is not meant to be known when His return will be - the Scripture tells us this plainly -
 
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The longer it takes for Jesus to return, the more time there is to win as many people to Him as possible.

Your scenario is endless though, unless reproduction were to completely stop and no more generations followed. Otherwise, God would need delay perpetually. Personally, I believe in a certain set number that God knows will come in and that's all we the church are waiting for - the "fulness of the Gentiles" Paul spoke of.

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Romans 11:25
 
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Your scenario is endless though, unless reproduction were to completely stop and no more generations followed. Otherwise, God would need delay perpetually. Personally, I believe in a certain set number that God knows will come in and that's all we the church are waiting for - the "fulness of the Gentiles" Paul spoke of.

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Romans 11:25
I disagree. My "scenario" doesn't stop the return of Christ. I am only suggesting that why we are eager for the return of Jesus, He is concerned about the lost being saved. And, in His love, He will give them time to do so.
 
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Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?
No, only a warning to totally ignore anyone who says they know when it'll happen.
 
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I am only suggesting that why we are eager for the return of Jesus, He is concerned about the lost being saved. And, in His love, He will give them time to do so.

I agree with this!! I'm blessed in that my whole house is saved, but I know there's Christians still praying for lost loved ones. I'm willing to wait for every last one, even if that means I have to go by way of the grave instead of rapture :)
 
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The Lord will return when He returns.

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Lord please do not delay. I'm ready for this to all be over. I could be a martyr, maybe, if they killed me quick.
 
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Lord please do not delay. I'm ready for this to all be over. I could be a martyr, maybe, if they killed me quick.

and if they did not kill you quickly, would you be a martyr?
 
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In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today? Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?

Scripture quotes Him saying, Behold, I have foretold you all things. Mark 13:23. An all encompassing statement like that could surely include when He would return, right? Yes, but my belief is we are tasked with finding where or how, in the Holy Bible, that ultimate mystery might be revealed; for it is also written we are not to know the time or the season of His return. Then again, we are expected to search the Scriptures, to study to show ourselves approved. Is this simply a test for us?

Let me put it this way; Our Father, our Lord and the Holy Spirit may want to see, by our actions, how much interest we really have in His Word, in every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That said, let's get back on topic; does the Bible tell us when we should expect to see our Lord? Try this, for I wouldn't want anyone to be ignorant of where to look. Did the Apostle Peter gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind?

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 11 Peter 3:8. This could be the Holy Spirit's way of saying, "Sharpen up kids, this is important!" And that is why I asked for opinions on when Christ was crucified. Two days ago, 2,000 years ago, the date was 20 AD. Today, we are now finishing 2020 AD. Humm.

Is it remotely possible, using the Holy Bible as the ultimate Reference Book, that Christ would be returning in 10 years, in 2030 AD? The atheists, even weak Christians, would say, "The man is mad! Don't listen to him, no one knows the exact date." That's true, but these are Scriptures we should consider; our Lord Jesus certainly would not want us to be ignorant of something He considered important, would He? Let's go deeper.

If our Beloved was crucified and resurrected in 30 AD then He would be gone from us for precisely 2 days in 2030 AD. Then what, what happens as we begin the 3rd day? The third day I shall be perfected the Lord told us in Luke 13:32. In Mark He said, After that He is killed, He shall rise the third day, and again in Mark, And the third day He shall rise again. Matthew tells us, The third day He shall be raised again, and also, And be raised again the third day.

It is commonly thought, and taught, and preached, the Scriptures were talking about 24 hour days here, and of course, they were. But what if the Holy Spirit wanted to teach us on several levels of understanding? Well, surely we would have known, something this profound could not be hidden for 2,000 years, could it?

And they shall scourge Him, and put Him to death: and the third day He shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:32

Am I safe in saying that all wisdom comes from God? Consider this: if the LORD doesn't want us to know something we won't know, until He deems it the appointed time to tell us. Actually, it may surprise many to know the LORD did tell us when to expect the return of His Son in the OLD Testament.

Come, and let us return onto the LORD: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up. After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 6:1

How about that, we are going to get raised up when the third day begins! Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this, so I'm not proclaiming the Lord's return on 2030. The two days might be finished on 2025 which would only leave us 5 years to end this flesh age. It might be 2035, which means we still have 15 years to get right with the LORD. Get right with the LORD, what does that mean?

Well, let's say we consider ourselves to be a righteous person, a person who always tries to do the right thing before the LORD, and before our fellow human beings. We need to make sure we stay that way, to be steadfast in our righteousness until this earth age is over. Put another way, let's keep the LORD happy with us.

If we are a wicked person, we need to repent, change our ways, and ask the LORD for His forgiveness; to wash away our sins with the blood of Jesus Christ. See, simple, we have a very loving Father Who is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 11Peter 3:9

That's it. Like king Jehoahaz, I hope we get the 15 years, I think our generation is going to need it!
In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today? Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?

Scripture quotes Him saying, Behold, I have foretold you all things. Mark 13:23. An all encompassing statement like that could surely include when He would return, right? Yes, but my belief is we are tasked with finding where or how, in the Holy Bible, that ultimate mystery might be revealed; for it is also written we are not to know the time or the season of His return. Then again, we are expected to search the Scriptures, to study to show ourselves approved. Is this simply a test for us?

Let me put it this way; Our Father, our Lord and the Holy Spirit may want to see, by our actions, how much interest we really have in His Word, in every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That said, let's get back on topic; does the Bible tell us when we should expect to see our Lord? Try this, for I wouldn't want anyone to be ignorant of where to look. Did the Apostle Peter gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind?

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 11 Peter 3:8. This could be the Holy Spirit's way of saying, "Sharpen up kids, this is important!" And that is why I asked for opinions on when Christ was crucified. Two days ago, 2,000 years ago, the date was 20 AD. Today, we are now finishing 2020 AD. Humm.

Is it remotely possible, using the Holy Bible as the ultimate Reference Book, that Christ would be returning in 10 years, in 2030 AD? The atheists, even weak Christians, would say, "The man is mad! Don't listen to him, no one knows the exact date." That's true, but these are Scriptures we should consider; our Lord Jesus certainly would not want us to be ignorant of something He considered important, would He? Let's go deeper.

If our Beloved was crucified and resurrected in 30 AD then He would be gone from us for precisely 2 days in 2030 AD. Then what, what happens as we begin the 3rd day? The third day I shall be perfected the Lord told us in Luke 13:32. In Mark He said, After that He is killed, He shall rise the third day, and again in Mark, And the third day He shall rise again. Matthew tells us, The third day He shall be raised again, and also, And be raised again the third day.

It is commonly thought, and taught, and preached, the Scriptures were talking about 24 hour days here, and of course, they were. But what if the Holy Spirit wanted to teach us on several levels of understanding? Well, surely we would have known, something this profound could not be hidden for 2,000 years, could it?

And they shall scourge Him, and put Him to death: and the third day He shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:32

Am I safe in saying that all wisdom comes from God? Consider this: if the LORD doesn't want us to know something we won't know, until He deems it the appointed time to tell us. Actually, it may surprise many to know the LORD did tell us when to expect the return of His Son in the OLD Testament.

Come, and let us return onto the LORD: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up. After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 6:1

How about that, we are going to get raised up when the third day begins! Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this, so I'm not proclaiming the Lord's return on 2030. The two days might be finished on 2025 which would only leave us 5 years to end this flesh age. It might be 2035, which means we still have 15 years to get right with the LORD. Get right with the LORD, what does that mean?

Well, let's say we consider ourselves to be a righteous person, a person who always tries to do the right thing before the LORD, and before our fellow human beings. We need to make sure we stay that way, to be steadfast in our righteousness until this earth age is over. Put another way, let's keep the LORD happy with us.

If we are a wicked person, we need to repent, change our ways, and ask the LORD for His forgiveness; to wash away our sins with the blood of Jesus Christ. See, simple, we have a very loving Father Who is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 11Peter 3:9

That's it. Like king Jehoahaz, I hope we get the 15 years, I think our generation is going to need it!
88 Reasons the Rapture will be in 1988 became 89 Reasons the Rapture will be in 1989 on January 1, 1989. Point being, making predictions of any sort is a fools errand. Believers need to stop wasting time coming up with clever misinterpretations of scripture to wedge into current events and spend time studying real theology and focus on personal holiness.
 
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