CHRIST RETURNS IN 2030?

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In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today? Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?

Scripture quotes Him saying, Behold, I have foretold you all things. Mark 13:23. An all encompassing statement like that could surely include when He would return, right? Yes, but my belief is we are tasked with finding where or how, in the Holy Bible, that ultimate mystery might be revealed; for it is also written we are not to know the time or the season of His return. Then again, we are expected to search the Scriptures, to study to show ourselves approved. Is this simply a test for us?

Let me put it this way; Our Father, our Lord and the Holy Spirit may want to see, by our actions, how much interest we really have in His Word, in every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That said, let's get back on topic; does the Bible tell us when we should expect to see our Lord? Try this, for I wouldn't want anyone to be ignorant of where to look. Did the Apostle Peter gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind?

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 11 Peter 3:8. This could be the Holy Spirit's way of saying, "Sharpen up kids, this is important!" And that is why I asked for opinions on when Christ was crucified. Two days ago, 2,000 years ago, the date was 20 AD. Today, we are now finishing 2020 AD. Humm.

Is it remotely possible, using the Holy Bible as the ultimate Reference Book, that Christ would be returning in 10 years, in 2030 AD? The atheists, even weak Christians, would say, "The man is mad! Don't listen to him, no one knows the exact date." That's true, but these are Scriptures we should consider; our Lord Jesus certainly would not want us to be ignorant of something He considered important, would He? Let's go deeper.

If our Beloved was crucified and resurrected in 30 AD then He would be gone from us for precisely 2 days in 2030 AD. Then what, what happens as we begin the 3rd day? The third day I shall be perfected the Lord told us in Luke 13:32. In Mark He said, After that He is killed, He shall rise the third day, and again in Mark, And the third day He shall rise again. Matthew tells us, The third day He shall be raised again, and also, And be raised again the third day.

It is commonly thought, and taught, and preached, the Scriptures were talking about 24 hour days here, and of course, they were. But what if the Holy Spirit wanted to teach us on several levels of understanding? Well, surely we would have known, something this profound could not be hidden for 2,000 years, could it?

And they shall scourge Him, and put Him to death: and the third day He shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:32

Am I safe in saying that all wisdom comes from God? Consider this: if the LORD doesn't want us to know something we won't know, until He deems it the appointed time to tell us. Actually, it may surprise many to know the LORD did tell us when to expect the return of His Son in the OLD Testament.

Come, and let us return onto the LORD: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up. After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 6:1

How about that, we are going to get raised up when the third day begins! Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this, so I'm not proclaiming the Lord's return on 2030. The two days might be finished on 2025 which would only leave us 5 years to end this flesh age. It might be 2035, which means we still have 15 years to get right with the LORD. Get right with the LORD, what does that mean?

Well, let's say we consider ourselves to be a righteous person, a person who always tries to do the right thing before the LORD, and before our fellow human beings. We need to make sure we stay that way, to be steadfast in our righteousness until this earth age is over. Put another way, let's keep the LORD happy with us.

If we are a wicked person, we need to repent, change our ways, and ask the LORD for His forgiveness; to wash away our sins with the blood of Jesus Christ. See, simple, we have a very loving Father Who is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 11Peter 3:9

That's it. Like king Jehoahaz, I hope we get the 15 years, I think our generation is going to need it!
 

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Matthew 24:36- "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Matthew 24:42- "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."

Matthew 24:44- "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

So, the message is to just be ready, for none of us knows the exact day or hour, etc, and that it (that day or hour) will be for most, in a time when they are not at all expecting it at all, or when they are at the very least expecting it at all, etc...

Only a fool tries to know and predict the exact time and/or day and/or hour, in light of what these scriptures, which are the very words of Jesus Himself, says, etc...

For such might be the ultimate vanity, etc...

In light of what these scriptures say, etc...

Be ready, yes, but trying to be making sure you are ready because of some kind of certain time-frame, etc...?

Anyway, just does not at all sit right with me, and I don't think it does with the Lord either, etc...

If you cannot be ready (already) (or soon) without having a certain time-frame looming over your head, then you'll probably never truly ever be truly ready ever, at all, etc...

I just don't think that kind of obedience, is truly what the Lord is looking for, etc...

God Bless!
 
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Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Hebrews 1:2.

I understand these "last days" to mean exactly 2 days, being plural but with no number preceding. Same thing in Acts 2:16-17
 
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I have the end-time starting in 1945 when Americans dropped the atomic bomb on Japan and starting the atomic age. Alternately, 1948 when Israel was created.

1945 + 100 = 2045
1948 + 100 = 2048

The group that sees the start of the end-time period will not be completely dead by the time Jesus arrives, or about 100 years. A couple of people will be around after 100 years.

I estimate that Jesus will return no later than 2048. He could very well return earlier.

Could Jesus return in 2030? I guess he could but it seems a little tight. Various events (wars) will have to take place first. I'm thinking a little further out, like 2040.

According to Revelation (13:5), we'll know when Jesus is going to return 42 months out. So his return will be no great mystery.

Why do we need to be so ready? And what does it even mean to be ready?
 
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Matthew 24:36- "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
If the text proves that men will know nothing of the period of the second advent, it also proves that angels will know nothing of it, and also that the Son will know nothing of it, till the event takes place! This position proves too much, therefore proves nothing to the point. Christ will know of the period of His second advent to this world. The holy angels who wait around the throne of Heaven to receive messages relative to the part they act in the salvation of men, will know of the time of this closing event of salvation. And so will the waiting, watching people of God understand. An old English version of the passage reads, "But that day and hour no man maketh known, neither the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." This is the correct reading, according to several of the ablest critics of the age. The word know is used in the same sense here that it is by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2: "For I determined not to know (make known) anything among you, save Jesus Christ and Him crucified." Men will not make known the day and hour, angels will not make it known, neither will the Son, but the Father will make it known.
Day and the Hour James White

The above bold line makes sense seeing how Jesus (the Son) is all knowing and is GOD
 
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Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
If the text proves that men will know nothing of the period of the second advent, it also proves that angels will know nothing of it, and also that the Son will know nothing of it, till the event takes place! This position proves too much, therefore proves nothing to the point. Christ will know of the period of His second advent to this world. The holy angels who wait around the throne of Heaven to receive messages relative to the part they act in the salvation of men, will know of the time of this closing event of salvation. And so will the waiting, watching people of God understand. An old English version of the passage reads, "But that day and hour no man maketh known, neither the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." This is the correct reading, according to several of the ablest critics of the age. The word know is used in the same sense here that it is by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2: "For I determined not to know (make known) anything among you, save Jesus Christ and Him crucified." Men will not make known the day and hour, angels will not make it known, neither will the Son, but the Father will make it known.
Day and the Hour James White

The above bold line makes sense seeing how Jesus (the Son) is all knowing and is GOD
People pick and choose from whatever translations or wordings they like I guess...?

Because your still completely ignoring Matthew 22:42 and Matthew 22:44, which is right in along with, and is in the very same passage and context of Jesus speaking one whole thought in and before and after Matthew 24:36 also, (Matthew 24) etc...

Meaning in short, that no man would know, etc...

And if you would examine the whole complete context, that would be clear, etc...

Matthew 24:1-44...

24 And Jesus went out from the temple, and was going on his way; and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple.

2 But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for [these things] must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places.

8 But all these things are the beginning of travail.

9 Then shall they deliver you up unto tribulation, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all the nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.

12 And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold.

13 But he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When therefore ye see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that readeth understand), 16 then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains: 17 let him that is on the housetop not go down to take out things that are in his house: 18 and let him that is in the field not return back to take his cloak.

19 But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!

20 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath: 21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ, or, Here; believe [it] not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

25 Behold, I have told you beforehand.

26 If therefore they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe [it] not.

27 For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

28 Wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh; 33 even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, [even] at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

37 And as [were] the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

38 For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

40 Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: 41 two women [shall be] grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.

43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken through.

44 Therefore be ye also ready; for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Examine the entire context, and it is very clear what Jesus means, etc, He tells people to "be ready", even though they won't know, etc, and in other places, that His coming will be like a "thief in the night", and as "lightning flashes", etc...

Look, even if one could know the exact time exactly, etc, even if, etc, don't you think his thinking his being able to discern that, wouldn't automatically corrupt him, etc...?

Cause I think it would, which is why no one is supposed to know, etc...

The Lord wants you to be obedient, because you just want to be obedient and obey Him, etc, and because you Love Him, etc, and not because you somehow knew of the "certain specific time", etc...

This would automatically corrupt your obedience, etc, which is why no one is supposed to know, nor is told, etc...

Yes He speaks of signs to watching for, but also makes it a point that you should obey and be ready regardless, etc...

Look, you just go ahead and obey Him because you, and maybe only you, etc, knew of a certain time and day, etc, and I will just obey him because I Love Him and from My heart, and not out of fear or dread, or for knowing a certain day or date or time, etc, and we'll just see whom the Lord smiles upon more in the end, OK...?

Cause that's what I meant by it corrupting your obedience, etc...

I believe Love is supposed to be much more powerful than fear or dread, etc...

And will be much more "smiled upon" in the end, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!
 
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Also, Jesus did come back a 2nd time already!

The Ressurrection...
And He will return as such, but no man knows when, etc...

And I don't/didn't know if you were trying to be humorous or funny like you sometimes are or do, etc, so I thought I'd just give this one a "like" instead of a "funny" this time, etc...

Really do appreciate your humor on here though...:)

God Bless!
 
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So, the message is to just be ready, for none of us knows the exact day or hour...
But doesn't that leave open the option to know the year? If only the day or hour will be unknown.
 
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Could Jesus return in 2030?
This year has been on my mind. 2030.

The globalists are proclaiming 2030 as the year when we will "own nothing" but "be happy". They are planning the great reset to begin this year. I think the World Economic Council is meeting on January 21 to begin the process. The great reset. The launch of a one world government driven by the "need" to reverse climate change. (global warming)

In 2020 we have seen things happen that are shockingly in line with the end times scenario. The social engineering has been a success. We will do anything they ask. They have us all wearing face masks. And they will probably never go away. They are systematically shutting everything down. Now they claim that the Pandemic will become endemic. (permanent)

If it takes until 2023 to get their program of reset fully integrated (all wealth transferred to the 1 percent) That will leave 7 years until 2030. Could this be the Tribulation period? When the antichrist is revealed. With 3.5 years until the beginning of the Great Tribulation? I'm not sure. But it is a thought.

They were even talking about a tattoo to accompany the global vaccine. Not sure what became of that. Sounded like the Mark of the Beast. Without it, you couldn't enter a store to buy, or travel in mass transit.

Perhaps we aren't there yet. But we certainly seem to be conditioned for it. Orders are coming from God-knows-where and we are all complying with orders. Where will it stop? At the return of Christ? And what about the Rapture of the church?

Sorry for the long post.

Now is the time for a 'great reset'
 
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Also, Jesus did come back a 2nd time already!

The Ressurrection...
Perhaps there is a third coming then?

Acts 1:9-11
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
 
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Jesus wept over Jerusalem and proclaimed they would not see Him henceforth until Jerusalem says “blessed is he who comes in the Name of the Lord”. (Matt 23)
Today in Israel no missionary is welcome, so this scripture and others seem to point to Israel “looking upon Him whom they pierced and morning for Him as one that morns for his son”, after the second day.
And after that awful statement, “His blood be upon us and on our children” Israel was wounded and torn for 2 days, (2,000 years)
So it seems the tearing and wounding in Hosea 6 is Israel, not Christ or His church.
The question is when did the first day start, 30 AD when Jesus was crucified or 70 AD when Titus tore and wounded the city horribly.
So the reviving and healing of Hosea 6 will be after the two days.
Then Jesus will return. So, Looking for Israel to have the veil taken away and realizing their awful mistake and coming to worship at Jesus’ feet and saying, blessed is he that comes in the Name of the Lord.
Maybe sometime after 2030, or after 2070. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Even so come Lord Jesus.
 
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Orders are coming from God-knows-where

Interesting observation. I remember feeling the same with the Muslim migration situation in Europe. Their leaders were marching in lockstep, against the will of their people, as if receiving orders from the same place. It seemed broader than the EU - sometimes I wonder if the 10 kings "which have received no kingdom" (meaning what - they rule behind the scenes?) are already set up and exercising power Daniel 7:24, Revelation 17:12
 
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This year has been on my mind. 2030.

The globalists are proclaiming 2030 as the year when we will "own nothing" but "be happy". They are planning the great reset to begin this year. I think the World Economic Council is meeting on January 21 to begin the process. The great reset. The launch of a one world government driven by the "need" to reverse climate change. (global warming)

In 2020 we have seen things happen that are shockingly in line with the end times scenario. The social engineering has been a success. We will do anything they ask. They have us all wearing face masks. And they will probably never go away. They are systematically shutting everything down. Now they claim that the Pandemic will become endemic. (permanent)

If it takes until 2023 to get their program of reset fully integrated (all wealth transferred to the 1 percent) That will leave 7 years until 2030. Could this be the Tribulation period? When the antichrist is revealed. With 3.5 years until the beginning of the Great Tribulation? I'm not sure. But it is a thought.

They were even talking about a tattoo to accompany the global vaccine. Not sure what became of that. Sounded like the Mark of the Beast. Without it, you couldn't enter a store to buy, or travel in mass transit.

Perhaps we aren't there yet. But we certainly seem to be conditioned for it. Orders are coming from God-knows-where and we are all complying with orders. Where will it stop? At the return of Christ? And what about the Rapture of the church?

Sorry for the long post.

Now is the time for a 'great reset'
Additional thoughts.

In 2020 we saw such an acceleration of things globally. The whole world ran out of toilet paper. Someone was trying to get our attention. - lol

The social engineering experiment was a HUGE success. This was just a warm up for 2021. IMO

I anticipate that 2021 could potentially be 10x worse than 2020, which everyone hated. But what did we do about it? Nothing. We only complied. So, we are ready for the next set of orders.

What will they do to stop global warming? Turn off the supply of gasoline/petrol? Or raise gas/Petrol prices to $20 a gallon? (then $50) Create exhaust emissions restrictions that will close most factories in a matter of months? Make burning firewood illegal? Fine cities for air quality violations? Who knows?

The health industry has been weaponized against us. Employers are now able to get technology to monitor the health of their employees. What about mandatory vaccinations if you want to work outside your home? Or mandatory Covid screening? Resulting in quarantine and reporting everyone you have been in contact with. How long until half the population is in isolation? Or are we already there?

After 2020, none of this seems too far fetched to me. What about 2022? Then what? At the current trajectory, where will we be in 2023? Just 7 years before the World Economic Forum says we will own nothing. (but be happy)

That Thing Goin' 'Round (special thanks to Andrea, RK and Aaron G)
 
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Interesting observation. I remember feeling the same with the Muslim migration situation in Europe. Their leaders were marching in lockstep, against the will of their people, as if receiving orders from the same place. It seemed broader than the EU - sometimes I wonder if the 10 kings "which have received no kingdom" (meaning what - they rule behind the scenes?) are already set up and exercising power Daniel 7:24, Revelation 17:12
Yes. All of these things have had a crippling effect on the western world. We are on the verge of a complete collapse.

And the Covid relief checks they sent us. !!! Where did all that money come from all of a sudden? Funny money. They could flip a switch tomorrow and take it all away. Money is an illusion. When will the trick end?
 
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