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I've wondered if that means our resurrection bodies will also be without blood.
I notice that your subtitle says “blood-bought"

John 19:34-35a
One of the soldiers pierced his side with a lance; and immediately there came out blood and water. This is the evidence of one who saw it.
Revelation 5:9
... with your blood you bought men for God
Matthew 10:29-31
"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father... So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows."
1 Peter 1:18-19
For you must realize that you have been ransomed from the futile way of living passed on to you by your traditions, but not by any money payment of this passing world. No, the price was, in fact, the life blood of Christ, the unblemished and unstained lamb of sacrifice.
1 Corinthians 7:23
You have all been bought and paid for.
John 19:30
Jesus took the wine and said, "It is finished!" Then he bowed his head and died.​

The certainty is that the debt is sufficiently paid for the pardon to be granted. As He is so shall we be. (!?!)
 
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jesus the Christ explained the meaning of His life and death using the rites of the Sinia covenant. The new wine in comparison to the old.
Luke 22:20
And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.”​

Since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come, instead of the true form of these realities Hebrews 10:1

For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction Romans 15:4

Now these things happened to them as a warning … but to us for instructions 1 Corinthians 10:11

All scripture inspired by God and profitable for instruction 2 Timothy 3:16-17


In light of those claims, warning, instruction, encouragement etc found in the narratives are generally the key element of scripture and that which God would have us be aware of imo.
 
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It’s difficult not to jump around within the book itself, but I want to dwell on the warnings for a moment and note also how parables are fashioned.

Warnings from Israel's Past
1 Corinthians 10
…3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the wilderness.…

Exodus 17:6
Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

Psalms 78
He clave the rocks in the wilderness, and gave them drink as out of the great depths…

Matthew 13:34-35
I Will Open My Mouth in Parables
…14He led them with a cloud by day and with a light of fire all night. 15He split the rocks in the wilderness and gave them drink as abundant as the seas.16He brought streams from the stone and made water flow down like rivers.…

2 Chronicles 5
The Ark Enters the Temple
…9The poles of the ark extended far enough that their ends were visible from in front of the inner sanctuary, but not from outside the Holy Place; and they are there to this day. 10There was nothing in the ark except the two tablets that Moses had placed in it at Horeb, where the LORD had made a covenant with the Israelites after they had come out of Egypt.
Now we can compare Paul’s version of the wilderness experience that he wished to express as a warning ...Romans 10 (Link to compare Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 3:7-4:13, Romans 10 - English Standard Version) I don’t think the author ‘ s have the same viewpoint OR perhaps a now and then outlook ...
Okay. . .let's see if I am following you:

I'll start with Ro 10. . .which doesn't seem to be about their wilderness experience, but rather about their NT experience.

The Jews were zealous for God, but their zeal was without knowledge (10:2) of God's way of salvation.
They did not know about righteousness (justification) based on faith (1:17), which comes from God as a gift and cannot be earned by man's works.
The righteousness (justification) that is by faith does not require heroic feats, as in Dt 30:12-13 (10:6).
Paul applies the "word" (law) of Dt 30:14 to the "word of faith" in the gospel (10:8), which is "near you," readily available to anyone who will receive it freely from God through Christ.

It's not that Israel had not been told the word of Christ, they were told but would not hear.
As God preached to the whole world in creation (1:18-20), so that men were without excuse (1:20),
so the gospel is preached to the whole world (10:18), making the Jews without excuse.
For if the Gentiles can understand the NT message, then surely the Jews can understand it also.
So the Jews alone are responsible for Israel's rejection as a nation (10:21), because she failed to meet God's requirement; namely, faith in Christ.

And Ro 10 seems to refer, not to past wilderness experience, but to their present consideration of going back to Judaism (apostasy), thereby not receiving (hearing) the word of Christ, placing them back among the Christ-rejecting Jews who would not hear the word of Christ and were responsible for Israel's rejection as a nation.

I'm thinking this is not following you, right?
 
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I notice that your subtitle says “blood-bought."

The certainty is that the debt is sufficiently paid for the pardon to be granted. As He is so shall we be. (!?!)
Indeed. . .it is most certain that I'm bought and paid for. . .ransomed from condemnation and eternal death through faith in the atoning blood of Jesus Christ (Ro 3:25) to remit my sin.
John 19:34-35a
One of the soldiers pierced his side with a lance; and immediately there came out blood and water. This is the evidence of one who saw it.
Revelation 5:9
... with your blood you bought men for God
Matthew 10:29-31
"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father... So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows."
1 Peter 1:18-19
For you must realize that you have been ransomed from the futile way of living passed on to you by your traditions, but not by any money payment of this passing world. No, the price was, in fact, the life blood of Christ, the unblemished and unstained lamb of sacrifice.
1 Corinthians 7:23
You have all been bought and paid for.
John 19:30
Jesus took the wine and said, "It is finished!" Then he bowed his head and died.
Cassia said:
Post #62:
In light of those claims, warning, instruction, encouragement etc found in the narratives are generally the key element of scripture and that which God would have us be aware of imo.
Instruction includes the teaching regarding salvation in Jesus Christ through faith apart from works.
Cassia said:
Post #64:
Yah I’m not attempting to align Paul’s thoughts with Hebrews except
from an elementary level.
I would not describe your posts as "from an elementary level."​
 
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And Ro 10 seems to refer, not to past wilderness experience, but to their present consideration of going back to Judaism (apostasy), thereby not receiving (hearing) the word of Christ, placing them back among the Christ-rejecting Jews who would not hear the word of Christ and were responsible for Israel's rejection as a nation.
Present considerations of today also, but the question is are you going to face it or pretend your still a child of Abraham when God knows that He can make children from the rocks. (another Peter analogy that brings it to key statements)
 
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Hebrews 8:5 In seeing this let us not seek out the letter but the soul and in doing so we will ascend to the spirit.

Foundational is the historical sense , while those seeking wisdom must understand the moral content within the words written (Book of Proverbs) recognizing that one must leave behind the vain things (Ecclesiastes) to hasten on to the eternal lasting things of oneness with the Great “I Am’ (Songs of Solomon) clothed in the images of love.
Scripture is made up of the seen and the unseen things. 2 Corinthians 4:18 what can be seen is temporary and what can not be seen is eternal. Scripture consists of the body which is the visible letter, the soul which is the meaning found within it, and a spirit which has something of the heavenly within it. They serve as the copy and shadow of the heavenly sanctuary.
The church being divided flies in the face of the exclusivity of there being but one way to enter into fellowship with God, which is what the early catholic church attempted to hold to be true, however guided or misguided that may have been. The unity of that truth is in the cross of Christ. The one essential way to Christ is entering in thru the proper gate. The wilderness tabernacle was both exclusive and inclusive. It excluded all who would not come in the one and only gate but included all who came by the prescribed way. Like most things that came from foundations I think the hold onto that which is foundational lost the meaning within the action and became a rote rule of thumb guiding the church. The root is still the same and the abiding of the branches is still the same because they are in Christ while the fruit is what can be seen as belonging or not. Because there's only one admission ticket into unity and that's knowing oneself to be hopelessly lost w/o Christ Jesus and knowing He has obtained what we could never attain to that had kept us excluded; there's only one entrance remaining into inclusiveness and that's boldly entering in by His provided way after admission of the need for a Saviour. It's still one tree grafted in.

We are 3-fold in our existence, as the Godhead is:
sinner in the world
priest in the Holy Place
glorification in Eternity

As a sinner we offer ourselves a living sacrifice daily, as a priest to worship and intercede, growing from glory to glory.

Picture the Tabernacle as an Xray of Yourself

The Gate (Jesus is the Gate)

The Brazen Altar (Jesus or sacrifice to whom we die daily)

The Lavar (washing our hands, work, and feet , walk, BEFORE entering the priestly inner court)

The Golden candlestick (representing the illumination of the Holy Spirit) shining on Jesus Words...

Table of Shewbread (representing the teachings of Jesus..His flesh and blood edifying)

Altar of Intercession (discernment is for intercession for His people)

Enter the Holy of Holies(come in thru the blood of the Lamb from the way of the tabernacle)

Ark of the Covenment(Testimony) (mercy and justice for all)
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Diagrams of the Tabernacle and Basic Layout (Part 1 of 3)

The tabernacle consisted of a tent-like structure (the tabernacle proper) covered by rug-like coverings for a roof, and an external courtyard (150 feet by 75 feet). The whole compound was surrounded by a high fence about 7 feet in height. The fence was made of linen hangings held by pillars.

The tent (tabernacle proper) was divided into the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies. The tent was made of acacia wood boards overlaid with gold and fitted together to form the walls, measuring 45 by 15 feet. On top, four layers of curtains acted as a roof to shield the tabernacle from sun and rain: The innermost layer was woven with fine linen and embroidered with figures of cherubim (angels), the second layer was made of goat?s hair, the third layer was made of rams? skins dyed red, and the outermost layer was made of porpoise skins. The curtains were pinned to the ground with loops and clasps.


The specific layout of the tabernacle and its courtyard is significant because it illustrates God?s prescribed way for man to approach Him.

The whole compound was surrounded by a high fence with only one entrance. A person could not simply come from any direction into the tabernacle as he pleased ? he had to enter through the one gate, which was always located to the east (so that people were facing west when they entered the tabernacle ? a direct opposition to the pagan sun worshippers of the day who always faced east). Upon entering the gate, he encountered the brazen altar, where he was to present his animal offering, and then hand the reigns over to the priests, who make atonement and intercession for him in the tent.


This setup informed the Israelites that they could only come to God in the way He prescribed. There was no other way. As we will see even more clearly in the following sections, God is using the Old Testament tabernacle to tell us that we, too, must come to Him only through the way He has provided for us ? Jesus Christ.

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The Gate of the Tabernacle

There was only one gate by which people could enter into the tabernacle courtyard. The gate was 30 feet wide. It was located directly in the center of the outer court on the east end. The gate was covered by a curtain or screen made of finely twisted linen in blue, purple and scarlet.

The one and only gate is a representation of Christ as the only way through which one could fellowship with God and worship Him. To do this, one must enter in through the gate to the place where God dwelled. Jesus said in his famous ?I am? statements:

?I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.? (John 14:6) and

?I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.? (John 10:9)

He also said:

?Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.? (Matthew 7:13-14)

The act of entering the gate to the tabernacle was significant to the Israelites. By entering, one could find forgiveness of sin and fellowship with God. The first thing that one saw upon coming through the gate was the brazen altar, which served as a reminder of man?s sinfulness and his need for a blood sacrifice in order to be fellowship with God. One needed to repent and offer sacrifices for their sin. Those who did not repent were not entering this ?narrow way.?


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The Brazen Altar of the Tabernacle

The brazen altar, bronze altar, or altar of sacrifice was situated right inside the courtyard upon entering the gate to the tabernacle. The Hebrew root for altar means ?to slay? or ?slaughter.? The Latin word alta means ?high.? An altar is a ?high place for sacrifice/slaughter.? The altar stood raised on a mound of earth, higher than its surrounding furniture. This is a projection of Christ, our sacrifice, lifted up on the cross, His altar, which stood on a hill called Golgotha.

The altar was made of wood from the acacia tree and overlaid with bronze (usually symbolic of judgment on sin in the Bible), measuring 7.5 feet on all four sides and 4.5 feet deep. Four horns projected from the top four corners and a bronze grating was inside to hold the animal.

The altar was the place for burning animal sacrifices. It showed the Israelites that the first step for sinful man to approach a holy God was to be cleansed by the blood of an innocent creature. For a sin offering, a person had to bring an animal ? a male one without blemish or defect from the flock or herd ? to the priest at the tabernacle gate.

?He is to lay his hand on the head of the burnt offering, and it will be accepted on his behalf to make atonement for him.? (Leviticus 1:4)

By laying his hand upon the head of the offering, the person was identifying with the sacrifice. His sin and guilt was being moved from himself to the animal. The priest would then slaughter the animal, sprinkle its blood in front of the veil of the Holy Place, burn the sacrifice, and pour the rest of it at the bottom of the altar. Blood is a significant agent of atonement (covering for sin; click on link to read more detailed definition) and cleansing in the Old Testament.

?For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.? (Leviticus 17:11)

?The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.? (Hebrews 9:22)

The Significance of the Tabernacle Sacrifices:

Although the blood of the sacrifices covered over the sins of the Israelites, they had to perform the sacrifices year after year, for they were not freed permanently of a guilty conscience. However, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, came as the ultimate and last sacrifice for mankind when He offered up His life. As Isaiah prophesied, the Christ would be like a lamb that is led to slaughter and pierced for our transgressions. His blood was sprinkled and poured out at the cross for us. The Bible says much about this:

?This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.? (Mark 14:24)

?For you know that ? you were redeemed ? with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.? (1 Peter 1:18-19)

?The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!? (Hebrews 9:13-14)

?We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. ?By one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. ?And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin.? (Hebrews 10:10, 14, 18)

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.? (2 Corinthians 5:21)

Horns were a symbol power and strength in biblical times. When the sacrifice was made, blood was dabbed on the horns of the altar, signifying the power of the blood to atone for sins. In the same way, there is mighty power in the blood of Christ. Jesus is the ?horn of our salvation? (Psalm 18:2, Luke 1:69).

The animal sacrifices bore reference to the Passover lambs, which the Israelites slaughtered in like manner to save their firstborns from the last plague of God's judgment on Egypt (Exodus 12:1-13). Similarly, as the Passover lambs were eaten after they were slaughtered, some of the sacrificial lambs also were eaten. Just as the sacrificial lambs were sacrificed and eaten, so Jesus' body was sacrificed and "eaten." It was no coincidence that on the night before the Passover when Jesus was crucified, He ?took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, ?Take and eat; this is my body?? (Matthew 26:26).

Earlier Jesus had taught His disciples:

?I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him.? (John 6:53-56)

Jesus Himself is the Lamb of God as well as the Passover Lamb for those who believe in Him.
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Laver of the Tabernacle

The laver, or basin, was a large bowl filled with water located halfway between the brazen altar and the Holy Place. Although God did not give specific measurements for the Laver, it was to be made entirely of bronze. The priests were to wash their hands and their feet in it before entering the Holy Place.

The laver was located in a convenient place for washing and stood as a reminder that people need cleansing before approaching God. The priests atoned for their sins through a sacrifice at the brazen altar, but they cleansed themselves at the laver before serving in the Holy Place, so that they would be pure and not die before a holy God.

The application for believers today is that we are forgiven through Christ?s work on the cross, but we are washed through His Word. We need to be washed daily in His Word to cleanse ourselves, so that we can serve and minister before Him.

??Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.? (Ephesians 5:25-27)

?Let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled [with blood] to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.? (Hebrews 10:22)
 
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Part 2 of 3

The Lampstand

The Menorah of the Tabernacle

After washing their hands and feet at the laver, the priests could enter the Holy Place, which was the first room in the tent of the tabernacle. There were three pieces of furniture in the Holy Place: the menorah, the table of showbread and the golden altar of incense.

The menorah, also called the ?golden lampstand? or ?candlestick,? stood at the left side of the Holy Place. It was hammered out of one piece of pure gold. Like for the laver, there were no specific instructions about the size of the menorah, but the fact that it was fashioned out of one piece of pure gold would have limited its size.

The lampstand had a central branch from which three branches extended from each side, forming a total of seven branches. Seven lamps holding olive oil and wicks stood on top of the branches. Each branch looked like that of an almond tree, containing buds, blossoms and flowers. The priests were instructed to keep the lamps burning continuously.

?The Lord said to Moses, ?Command the Israelites to bring you clear oil of pressed olives for the light so that the lamps may be kept burning continually. Outside the curtain of the Testimony in the Tent of Meeting, Aaron is to tend the lamps before the Lord from evening till morning, continually.?? (Leviticus 24:1-3)

The lampstand was the only source of light in the Holy Place, so without it, the priests would have been moping around in the dark. The light shone upon the table of showbread and the altar of incense, enabling the priests to fellowship with God and intercede on behalf of God?s people. Just as the lampstand was placed in God?s dwelling place so that the priests could approach God, Jesus, the ?true light that gives light to every man? (John 1:9) came into the world so that man could see God and not live in spiritual darkness anymore.

Jesus said:

?I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.? (John 8:12)

?I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.? (John 9:46)

Jesus is represented by the main branch of the lampstand, and we as believers are represented by the six branches that extend from original branch. Having believed, we are now living as ?children of light? (Ephesians 5:8) who draw our source of light from Jesus, the true light. Jesus calls us ?light of the world? and commands us to ?let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven? (Matthew 5: 14, 16). Not only so, but the branches serve as a picture of Jesus? description of our relationship with him: ?I am the vine, you are the branches ? apart from me you can do nothing? (John 15:5).

Two other significant symbols that can be seen from include the fact that it was made of pure gold (not gold plated) and had seven branches. Pure gold is a representation of the deity and perfection of Jesus Christ, and seven is the number of completeness in the Bible. The believer is made complete by the perfection of Christ.
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The Table of Showbread of the Tabernacle

The table of showbread was a small table made of acacia wood and overlaid with pure gold. It measured 3 feet by 1.5 feet and was 2 feet, 3 inches high. It stood on the right side of the Holy Place across from the lampstand and held 12 loaves of bread, representing the 12 tribes of Israel. The priests baked the bread with fine four and it remained on the table before the Lord for a week; every Sabbath day the priests would remove it and eat it in the Holy Place, then put fresh bread on the table. Only priests could eat the bread, and it could only be eaten in the Holy Place, because it was holy.

?Showbread? also was called ?bread of the presence? because it was to be always in the Lord?s presence. The table and the bread were a picture of God?s willingness to fellowship and communion (literally speaking, sharing something in common) with man. It was like an invitation to share a meal, an extension of friendship. Eating together often is an act of fellowship. God was willing for man to enter into His presence to fellowship with Him, and this invitation was always open.

Jesus exemplified this when He ate with tax collectors, prostitutes and the sinners of Jewish society. But this was more than just a gesture of friendship on earth. Jesus came to call sinners to Him, make them right with God, so that they could enjoy everlasting fellowship with God.

?I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. ? Your forefathers ate the manna in the desert, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die.? (John 6:35, 49-50)

God so desires our fellowship that He was willing to come to earth from heaven as our ?bread of life? to give eternal life to all those who would partake in it. At Jesus? last Passover meal with His disciples,
Jesus described Himself as bread again:

?While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, ?Take and eat; this is my body.?? (Matthew 26:26)

Jesus? broken body is our only access to fellowship with God. Today, we celebrate the Lord?s Supper, or communion, to remember this important truth. And today, as in the day of Moses? tabernacle, God still desires to have fellowship and sit down for a feast with His people.

?Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.? (Revelations 3:20)
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The Golden Altar of Incense of the Tabernacle

The golden altar of incense, which is not to be confused with the brazen altar, sat in front of the curtain that separated the Holy Place from the Holy of Holies. This altar was smaller than the brazen altar. It was a square with each side measuring 1.5 feet and was 3 feet high. It was made of acacia wood and overlaid with pure gold. Four horns protruded from the four corners of the altar.

God commanded the priests to burn incense on the golden altar every morning and evening, the same time that the daily burnt offerings were made. The incense was to be left burning continually throughout the day and night as a pleasing aroma to the Lord. It was made of an equal part of four precious spices (stacte, onycha, galbanum and frankincense) and was considered holy. God commanded the Israelites not to use the same formula outside the tabernacle to make perfume for their own consumption; otherwise, they were to be cut off from their people (Exodus 30:34-38).

The incense was a symbol of the prayers and intercession of the people going up to God as a sweet fragrance. God wanted His dwelling to be a place where people could approach Him and pray to Him.

??for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations.? (Isaiah 56:7)

The picture of prayers wafting up to heaven like incense is captured in David?s psalm and also in John?s vision in Revelations:

?May my prayer be set before you like incense; may the lifting up of my hands be like the evening sacrifice.? (Psalm 141:2)

?Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel?s hand.? (Revelations 8:3-4)

The golden altar, furthermore, is a representation of Christ, who is our intercessor before God the Father. During His days on earth, Jesus prayed for the believers. He was like the high priest of the tabernacle, who bore the names of each of the Israelite tribes on his breastplate before God. Just before He was betrayed and sentenced to death, Jesus interceded for His disciples and all believers, asking God to guard them from evil and sanctify them by His Word, and that they may see God?s glory and be a witness to the world (John 17:1-26). Today, Jesus still is our high priest at the Father?s side,
interceding for God?s people:

?Christ Jesus, who died ? more than that, who was raised to life ? is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.? (Romans 8:34)

Since we have been forgiven of our sins through the blood of Christ, we also come boldly in prayer in Jesus? name. When we pray in Jesus? name, we are praying based on the work He has done and not on our own merit. It is in His powerful name that we are saved and baptized, and in His name we live, speak and act.

?And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.? (John 14:13-14)

The horns of the golden altar were sprinkled with blood from the animal sacrifice to cleanse and purify it from the sins of the Israelites (Leviticus 4:7, 16:18). Just as the horns on the brazen altar represent the power of Christ?s blood to forgive sins, the horns on golden altar signify the power of His blood in prayer as we confess our sins and ask for His forgiveness.

And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.? (James 5:15-16)
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The Holy of Holies and the Veil


Within the Holy Place of the tabernacle, there was an inner room called the Holy of Holies, or the Most Holy Place. Judging from its name, we can see that it was a most sacred room, a place no ordinary person could enter. It was God?s special dwelling place in the midst of His people. During the Israelites? wanderings in the wilderness, God appeared as a pillar of cloud or fire in and above the Holy of Holies. The Holy of Holies was a perfect cube ? its length, width and height were all equal to 15 feet.

A thick curtain separated the Holy of Holies from the Holy Place. This curtain, known as the ?veil,? was made of fine linen and blue, purple and scarlet yarn. There were figures of cherubim (angels) embroidered onto it. Cherubim, spirits who serve God, were in the presence of God to demonstrate His almighty power and majesty. They also guarded the throne of God. These cherubim were also on the innermost layer of covering of the tent. If one looked upward, they would see the cherubim figures.

The word ?veil? in Hebrew means a screen, divider or separator that hides. What was this curtain hiding? Essentially, it was shielding a holy God from sinful man. Whoever entered into the Holy of Holies was entering the very presence of God. In fact, anyone except the high priest who entered the Holy of Holies would die. Even the high priest, God?s chosen mediator with His people, could only pass through the veil and enter this sacred dwelling once a year, on a prescribed day called the Day of Atonement.

The picture of the veil was that of a barrier between man and God, showing man that the holiness of God could not be trifled with. God?s eyes are too pure to look on evil and He can tolerate no sin (Habakkuk 1:13). The veil was a barrier to make sure that man could not carelessly and irreverently enter into God?s awesome presence. Even as the high priest entered the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement, he had to make some meticulous preparations: He had to wash himself, put on special clothing, bring burning incense to let the smoke cover his eyes from a direct view of God, and bring blood with him to make atonement for sins.

?But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance.? (Hebrews 9:7)

So the presence of God remained shielded from man behind a thick curtain during the history of Israel. However, Jesus? sacrificial death on the cross changed that. When He died, the curtain in the Jerusalem temple was torn in half, from the top to the bottom. Only God could have carried out such an incredible feat because the veil was too high for human hands to have reached it, and too thick to have torn it. (The Jerusalem temple, a replica of the wilderness tabernacle, had a curtain that was about 60 feet in height, 30 feet in width and four inches thick.) Furthermore, it was torn from top down, meaning this act must have come from above.

As the veil was torn, the Holy of Holies was exposed. God?s presence was now accessible to all. Shocking as this may have been to the priests ministering in the temple that day, it is indeed good news to us as believers, because we know that Jesus? death has atoned for our sins and made us right before God. The torn veil illustrated Jesus? body broken for us, opening the way for us to come to God. As Jesus cried out ?It is finished!? on the cross, He was indeed proclaiming that God?s redemptive plan was now complete. The age of animal offerings was over. The ultimate offering had been sacrificed.

We can now boldly enter into God?s presence, ?the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, where Jesus, who went before us, has entered on our behalf.? (Hebrews 6:19-20)

?Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body ?let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith.? (Hebrews 10:19-22)

The Holy of Holies is a representation of heaven itself, God?s dwelling place, which we have access now through Christ. In Revelations, John?s vision of heaven ? the New Jerusalem ? also was a perfect square, just as the Holy of Holies was (Revelation 21:16).


?For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God?s presence. Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. ?But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.? (Hebrews 9:24-26)
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The Ark of the Covenant and Atonement Cover

Within the Holy of Holies, shielded from the eye of the common man, was one piece of furniture comprising two parts: the Ark of the Covenant and the atonement cover (or ?mercy seat?) on top of it. The ark was a chest made of acacia wood, overlaid with pure gold inside and out. It was 3 feet, 9 inches long and 2 feet, 3 inches wide and high. God commanded Moses to put in the ark three items: a golden pot of manna, Aaron?s staff that had budded, and the two stone tablets on which the Ten Commandments were written. We will discuss these three objects in further detail below.

The atonement cover was the lid for the ark. On top of it stood two cherubim (angels) at the two ends, facing each other. The cherubim, symbols of God?s divine presence and power, were facing downward toward the ark with outstretched wings that covered the atonement cover. The whole structure was beaten out of one piece of pure gold. The atonement cover was God?s dwelling place in the tabernacle. It was His throne, flanked by angels.
God said to Moses:

?There, above the cover between the two cherubim that are over the ark of the Testimony, I will meet with you and give you all my commands for the Israelites.? (Exodus 25:22)

?Tell your brother Aaron not to come whenever he chooses into the Most Holy Place behind the curtain in front of the atonement cover on the ark, or else he will die, because I appear in the cloud over the atonement cover.? (Leviticus 16:2)

Other Scriptures also speak of God?s throne:

??the ark of God, which is called by the Name, the name of the Lord Almighty, who is enthroned between the cherubim that are on the ark.? (2 Samuel 6:2)

?O Lord Almighty, God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, you alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth.? (Isaiah 37:16)

Above the ark and the atonement cover, God appeared in His glory in ?unapproachable light? (1 Timothy 6:16). This light is sometimes referred to as the Shekinah glory. The word Shekinah, although it does not appear in our English bibles, has the same roots as the word for tabernacle in Hebrew and refers to the presence of the Lord.

Because the ark was God?s throne among His people, it was a symbol of His presence and power with them wherever it went. There are quite a number of miracles recorded in the Old Testament surrounding the ark: With the presence of the ark, the waters of the River Jordan divided so the Israelites could cross on dry land, and the walls of Jericho fell so that the Israelites could capture it (Joshua 3:14-17, 6:6-21). Yet the ark could not be treated with irreverence because it was also a symbol of God?s judgment and wrath. When the Israelites fought their enemies the Philistines during the time of the prophet Samuel, they disregarded the commands of the Lord and took the ark out to the battlefield with them, ?summoning? God?s presence. God caused the Philistines to win the battle and ?the glory departed from Israel, for the ark of the Lord was taken? (1 Samuel 4:22). However, God showed His power to the Philistines when He caused their idol, Dagon, to fall to the ground when the ark was placed next to it, and several Philistine cities were plagued heavily when the ark was in their midst (1 Samuel 5). Ultimately, the ark was returned to Israel.

Articles in the Ark of the Covenant

What may seem strange to us today is that, hidden in the special golden box representing God?s presence were not treasures and precious gems, but three unlikely items: a jar of bread, a stick and two stones. What were these curious keepsakes and why did God want them in His ark?

The three articles represented some of the most embarrassing and disgraceful events in the history of the Israelites.

First, the pot of manna:

?This is what the Lord has commanded: ?Take an omer [portion for one man] of manna and keep it for the generations to come, so they can see the bread I gave you to eat in the desert when I brought you out of Egypt.?? (Exodus 16:32)

God had provided this bread-like food for the Israelites when they grumbled during the wanderings in the desert. It was bread from heaven! He continued to provide the food daily and faithfully, but the people were not one bit thankful. They complained and wanted something else. The pot of manna was an uncomfortable reminder that despite what God had provided for them, the Israelites had rejected God?s provision.

Second, Aaron?s staff that had budded: The people, out of jealousy, rebelled against Aaron as their high priest. To resolve the dispute, God commanded the people to take 12 sticks written with the names of the leader of each tribe and place them before the ark overnight. The next day, Aaron?s rod from the house of Levi had budded with blossoms and almonds. God confirmed his choice of Aaron?s household as the priestly line.

?And the Lord said to Moses, ?Put back the staff of Aaron before the testimony, to be kept as a sign for the rebels, that you may make an end of their grumblings against me, lest they die.?? (Numbers 17:10)

The staff reminded the Israelites that on more than one occasion, they had rejected God?s authority.

Third, the two stone tablets with the Ten Commandments: God had chosen the Israelites as His special people. For the Israelites to qualify for that distinction, God had demanded one thing. They must obey His Law, the Ten Commandments.
This was a conditional agreement:

?Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.? (Exodus 19:5-6)

The Israelites had said heartily, ?All that the Lord has spoken we will do,? in response to God?s covenant (Exodus 19:8). But how did they fare in fulfilling their end of the contract? Miserably. It was impossible for them to keep the Ten Commandments perfectly. Over and over again, they violated God?s holy Law, and God made it clear to them the consequences of their sin by sending plagues, natural hazards and foreign armies upon them. The stone tablets in the ark were a reminder that the Israelites had rejected God?s right standard of living.

These three articles were preserved in the ark throughout Israel?s history as an unpleasant symbol of man?s sins and shortcomings, a reminder of how they rejected God?s provision, authority and right standard of living. It pointed to man as a helpless sinner.

It may have been uncomfortable to think that God?s splendor was so close to the three articles associated with man?s sinfulness. But this is where God?s provision comes in. When God looked down from His presence above the ark, He did not see the reminders of sin.
They were covered by a necessary object ? the atonement cover.

The Atonement Cover

Every year, the high priest would enter the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement. Bringing burning incense to shield his eyes from a direct view of God?s glory, he sprinkled blood from a bull onto the atonement cover for his and his household?s sins, then sprinkled blood from a goat for all the sins of Israel. God promised that when He saw the blood, it would cover over man?s sin. (To atone for means to cover over ? hence the name atonement cover.) God did not see the sin anymore but the provision instead, and it appeased His wrath.

The Israelites found acceptance with God by believing His word to be true ? that when their sins were covered by blood, God temporarily overlooked their sins as it they had been obliterated. But Jesus Christ has become our permanent atonement cover. Through Jesus? blood, our sins have been covered over. When God looks at us, He doesn?t see our sin, but the provision: His own Son. Jesus lay down His life for us as an innocent sacrifice so that God would look on us and see His perfection.

The atonement cover was God?s throne in the midst of the Israelites. God is on His throne today in heaven and Jesus, our high priest, is at His right side. When we come to God now, we approach a throne of grace.

?Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.? (Hebrews 4:16)

Articles in the Ark ? Revisited

The three items in the ark that served as a sore reminder of man?s shortcomings have taken on a different meaning since Jesus Christ redeemed us from our sins. Let?s review the three articles and see how they point to Christ.

First, the pot of manna: When Jesus came and walked on earth, he didn?t reject God?s provision. Rather, He became God?s provision to us. Manna, the bread from heaven, in itself did not impart life. But Jesus told us that He is the true bread from heaven.

?Jesus said to them, ?I tell you the truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. I am the bread of life. Your forefathers ate the manna in the desert, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die.?? (John 6:32, 48-50)

Second, Aaron?s budding staff: Jesus didn?t reject God?s authority. Instead, He submitted Himself to the Father?s will and died on the cross.

?For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.? (John 6:38)

But He came back to life like Aaron?s budding rod, ?the firstfruits from the dead? (1 Corinthians 15:20).

?I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.? (John 11:15-26)

Third, the Ten Commandments: Jesus didn?t reject God?s right standard of living. He lived a sinless life and obeyed God?s law perfectly, becoming our perfect sacrifice and intercessor. His sacrifice instituted a new covenant that was not based on the Law.
But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.? (Romans 3:20-22)

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Okay. . .let's see if I am following you:

I'll start with Ro 10. . .which doesn't seem to be about their wilderness experience, but rather about their NT experience.

The Jews were zealous for God, but their zeal was without knowledge (10:2) of God's way of salvation.
They did not know about righteousness (justification) based on faith (1:17), which comes from God as a gift and cannot be earned by man's works.
The righteousness (justification) that is by faith does not require heroic feats, as in Dt 30:12-13 (10:6).
Paul applies the "word" (law) of Dt 30:14 to the "word of faith" in the gospel (10:8), which is "near you," readily available to anyone who will receive it freely from God through Christ.

It's not that Israel had not been told the word of Christ, they were told but would not hear.
As God preached to the whole world in creation (1:18-20), so that men were without excuse (1:20),
so the gospel is preached to the whole world (10:18), making the Jews without excuse.
For if the Gentiles can understand the NT message, then surely the Jews can understand the NT message.
So the Jews alone are responsible for Israel's rejection as a nation (10:21), because she failed to meet God's requirement; namely, faith in Christ.

And Ro 10 seems to refer, not to past wilderness experience, but to their present consideration of going back to Judaism (apostasy), thereby not receiving (hearing) the word of Christ, placing them back among the Christ-rejecting Jews who would not hear the word of Christ and were responsible for Israel's rejection as a nation.

I'm thinking this is not following you, right?
It may be proof that I’m not Jewish but as a nation when not 10 were found in Sodom and all would know their sin ... I can’t see what that sin could be to condemn so many to blindness. Jesus could cure those blind from birth, but previously had blinded a nation or at that time blinded them? Must be a Nazarite thing because Sampson did the same but from God. one of those things that make you wanna go hmn

17 The sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron, [and] with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the tablet of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars; 2 whilst their children remember their altars and their Asherim by the green trees upon the high hills.
 
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I posted the outline of the temple contents that is basically the interior setting of the book of Hebrews and how it relates to Christ with scripture OT - NT. And it bookends the verse at the end of the book to 'make all things according to pattern'.
 
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Part 3 of 3

The Ark of the Covenant and Atonement Cover

Within the Holy of Holies, shielded from the eye of the common man, was one piece of furniture comprising two parts: the Ark of the Covenant and the atonement cover (or ?mercy seat?) on top of it. The ark was a chest made of acacia wood, overlaid with pure gold inside and out. It was 3 feet, 9 inches long and 2 feet, 3 inches wide and high. God commanded Moses to put in the ark three items: a golden pot of manna, Aaron?s staff that had budded, and the two stone tablets on which the Ten Commandments were written. We will discuss these three objects in further detail below.

The atonement cover was the lid for the ark. On top of it stood two cherubim (angels) at the two ends, facing each other. The cherubim, symbols of God?s divine presence and power, were facing downward toward the ark with outstretched wings that covered the atonement cover. The whole structure was beaten out of one piece of pure gold. The atonement cover was God?s dwelling place in the tabernacle. It was His throne, flanked by angels.
God said to Moses:

?There, above the cover between the two cherubim that are over the ark of the Testimony, I will meet with you and give you all my commands for the Israelites.? (Exodus 25:22)

?Tell your brother Aaron not to come whenever he chooses into the Most Holy Place behind the curtain in front of the atonement cover on the ark, or else he will die, because I appear in the cloud over the atonement cover.? (Leviticus 16:2)

Other Scriptures also speak of God?s throne:

??the ark of God, which is called by the Name, the name of the Lord Almighty, who is enthroned between the cherubim that are on the ark.? (2 Samuel 6:2)

?O Lord Almighty, God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, you alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth.? (Isaiah 37:16)

Above the ark and the atonement cover, God appeared in His glory in ?unapproachable light? (1 Timothy 6:16). This light is sometimes referred to as the Shekinah glory. The word Shekinah, although it does not appear in our English bibles, has the same roots as the word for tabernacle in Hebrew and refers to the presence of the Lord.

Because the ark was God?s throne among His people, it was a symbol of His presence and power with them wherever it went. There are quite a number of miracles recorded in the Old Testament surrounding the ark: With the presence of the ark, the waters of the River Jordan divided so the Israelites could cross on dry land, and the walls of Jericho fell so that the Israelites could capture it (Joshua 3:14-17, 6:6-21). Yet the ark could not be treated with irreverence because it was also a symbol of God?s judgment and wrath. When the Israelites fought their enemies the Philistines during the time of the prophet Samuel, they disregarded the commands of the Lord and took the ark out to the battlefield with them, ?summoning? God?s presence. God caused the Philistines to win the battle and ?the glory departed from Israel, for the ark of the Lord was taken? (1 Samuel 4:22). However, God showed His power to the Philistines when He caused their idol, Dagon, to fall to the ground when the ark was placed next to it, and several Philistine cities were plagued heavily when the ark was in their midst (1 Samuel 5). Ultimately, the ark was returned to Israel.

Articles in the Ark of the Covenant

What may seem strange to us today is that, hidden in the special golden box representing God?s presence were not treasures and precious gems, but three unlikely items: a jar of bread, a stick and two stones. What were these curious keepsakes and why did God want them in His ark?

The three articles represented some of the most embarrassing and disgraceful events in the history of the Israelites.

First, the pot of manna:

?This is what the Lord has commanded: ?Take an omer [portion for one man] of manna and keep it for the generations to come, so they can see the bread I gave you to eat in the desert when I brought you out of Egypt.?? (Exodus 16:32)

God had provided this bread-like food for the Israelites when they grumbled during the wanderings in the desert. It was bread from heaven! He continued to provide the food daily and faithfully, but the people were not one bit thankful. They complained and wanted something else. The pot of manna was an uncomfortable reminder that despite what God had provided for them, the Israelites had rejected God?s provision.

Second, Aaron?s staff that had budded: The people, out of jealousy, rebelled against Aaron as their high priest. To resolve the dispute, God commanded the people to take 12 sticks written with the names of the leader of each tribe and place them before the ark overnight. The next day, Aaron?s rod from the house of Levi had budded with blossoms and almonds. God confirmed his choice of Aaron?s household as the priestly line.

?And the Lord said to Moses, ?Put back the staff of Aaron before the testimony, to be kept as a sign for the rebels, that you may make an end of their grumblings against me, lest they die.?? (Numbers 17:10)

The staff reminded the Israelites that on more than one occasion, they had rejected God?s authority.

Third, the two stone tablets with the Ten Commandments: God had chosen the Israelites as His special people. For the Israelites to qualify for that distinction, God had demanded one thing. They must obey His Law, the Ten Commandments.
This was a conditional agreement:

?Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.? (Exodus 19:5-6)

The Israelites had said heartily, ?All that the Lord has spoken we will do,? in response to God?s covenant (Exodus 19:8). But how did they fare in fulfilling their end of the contract? Miserably. It was impossible for them to keep the Ten Commandments perfectly. Over and over again, they violated God?s holy Law, and God made it clear to them the consequences of their sin by sending plagues, natural hazards and foreign armies upon them. The stone tablets in the ark were a reminder that the Israelites had rejected God?s right standard of living.

These three articles were preserved in the ark throughout Israel?s history as an unpleasant symbol of man?s sins and shortcomings, a reminder of how they rejected God?s provision, authority and right standard of living. It pointed to man as a helpless sinner.

It may have been uncomfortable to think that God?s splendor was so close to the three articles associated with man?s sinfulness. But this is where God?s provision comes in. When God looked down from His presence above the ark, He did not see the reminders of sin.
They were covered by a necessary object ? the atonement cover.

The Atonement Cover

Every year, the high priest would enter the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement. Bringing burning incense to shield his eyes from a direct view of God?s glory, he sprinkled blood from a bull onto the atonement cover for his and his household?s sins, then sprinkled blood from a goat for all the sins of Israel. God promised that when He saw the blood, it would cover over man?s sin. (To atone for means to cover over ? hence the name atonement cover.) God did not see the sin anymore but the provision instead, and it appeased His wrath.

The Israelites found acceptance with God by believing His word to be true ? that when their sins were covered by blood, God temporarily overlooked their sins as it they had been obliterated. But Jesus Christ has become our permanent atonement cover. Through Jesus? blood, our sins have been covered over. When God looks at us, He doesn?t see our sin, but the provision: His own Son. Jesus lay down His life for us as an innocent sacrifice so that God would look on us and see His perfection.

The atonement cover was God?s throne in the midst of the Israelites. God is on His throne today in heaven and Jesus, our high priest, is at His right side. When we come to God now, we approach a throne of grace.

?Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.? (Hebrews 4:16)

Articles in the Ark ? Revisited

The three items in the ark that served as a sore reminder of man?s shortcomings have taken on a different meaning since Jesus Christ redeemed us from our sins. Let?s review the three articles and see how they point to Christ.

First, the pot of manna: When Jesus came and walked on earth, he didn?t reject God?s provision. Rather, He became God?s provision to us. Manna, the bread from heaven, in itself did not impart life. But Jesus told us that He is the true bread from heaven.

?Jesus said to them, ?I tell you the truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. I am the bread of life. Your forefathers ate the manna in the desert, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die.?? (John 6:32, 48-50)

Second, Aaron?s budding staff: Jesus didn?t reject God?s authority. Instead, He submitted Himself to the Father?s will and died on the cross.

?For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.? (John 6:38)

But He came back to life like Aaron?s budding rod, ?the firstfruits from the dead? (1 Corinthians 15:20).

?I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.? (John 11:15-26)

Third, the Ten Commandments: Jesus didn?t reject God?s right standard of living. He lived a sinless life and obeyed God?s law perfectly, becoming our perfect sacrifice and intercessor. His sacrifice instituted a new covenant that was not based on the Law.
But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.? (Romans 3:20-22)

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Wow!

So the tabernacle is a picture of Jn 14:6, the only way to God (Most Holy Place):

--through the east gate- - - - - - - - - -through Christ, the gate (Jn 10-:7)

--by the altar- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --by his blood poured out (Ro 5:9)

--to the basin (laver)- - - - - - - - - - - which washes away our sin (Ac 22:16)

--into the Holy Place- - - - - - - - - - - -admitting us into fellowship with God (1Jn 1:3)

--where the light of the candles- - - - -where the Holy Spirit illumines Christ to us (Jn 16:14-15)

--illumines the show bread and- - - - - who is our complete provision (Jn 6:34)

--the gold altar of incense- - - - - - - - who always lives to intercede for us (Heb 7:25)

--through the torn shielding curtain- - whose body was torn to open the way to the Throne of Grace
. . . . . . .(Mk 15:38). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(Heb 10:19-20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 
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Wow!

So the tabernacle is a picture of Jn 14:6, the only way to God (Most Holy Place):

--through the east gate- - - - - - - - - -through Christ, the gate (Jn 10-:7)

--by the altar- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -by his blood poured out (Ro 5:9)

--to the basin (laver)- - - - - - - - - - -which washes away our sin (Ac 22:16)

--into the Holy Place- - - - - - - - - - - admitting us into fellowship with God (1Jn 1:3)

--where the light of the candles- - - - where the Holy Spirit illumines Christ to us (Jn 16:14-15)

--illumines the show bread and- - - - who is our complete provision (Jn 6:34)

--the gold altar of incense- - - - - - - -who always lives to intercede for us (Heb 7:25)

--through the torn shielding curtain- -whose body was torn to open the way to the Throne of Grace
. . . . . . .(Mk 15:38). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(Heb 10:19-20). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
:cool: I’m quite sure each has a direct link to the gospels too, maybe.
 
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:cool: I’m quite sure each has a direct link to the gospels too, maybe.
The whole tabernacle was a picture of the atoning work of Christ as the only way to God, through faith in him and his atoning work, as Jesus states in John 14:6:

"I am the way, and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
 
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It may be proof that I’m not Jewish
You don't have to be Jewish to understand and believe the gospel.
And that's what matters.
but as a nation when not 10 were found in Sodom and all would know their sin ...
I can’t see what that sin could be to condemn so many to blindness. Jesus could cure those blind from birth, but previously had blinded a nation or at that time blinded them? Must be a Nazarite thing because Sampson did the same but from God. one of those things that make you wanna go hmn

17 The sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron, [and] with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the tablet of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars; 2 whilst their children remember their altars and their Asherim by the green trees upon the high hills.
The religious leaders rejected Christ from the get-go because he threatened their power in saying that he was the Son of God (Jn 5:18), come down from heaven (Jn 3:13, 6:38, 42, 62, 17:5).
They sought to murder him--as did their father, Satan (Jn 8:38-47)--just as they had murdered the prophets of old (Lk 11:48, 50-51),
and they succeeded in doing so (Ac 7:51-53, 3:12, 15; 1Th 2:14b-15).

They loved blindness and darkness, rather than light and truth, so
God gave them over to the blindness they love.
 
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The text is quoted in Clements letter to Corinth at end of first century. It belongs in the Pauline collection and being posted in 65AD implies both Peter and Paul may have recognised its authority as both were present in Rome at the time. Paul would directly have signed it if it was directly his. My personal view is that Paul gave the stamp of approval for something written by a close associate of himself and endorsed its content as something he was happy with. But he did not actually write it possibly cause in prison at the time. So it may have been a visitor to Paul who collected his thoughts in a letter or a separate write from Paul's students. It could have been a woman but it is pure political correctness to push this too hard as the evidence is completely scanty and speculative.

Clement's letter to the Corinthians is dated AD96, and it quotes Hebrews but says nothing about the authorship. Paul died somewhere between 64 and 67. Hebrews was certainly written before AD70, and maybe 63-65, but it isn't at all certain that it was written before he died. I don't think Clement helps us determine the author.
 
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Clement's letter to the Corinthians is dated AD96, and it quotes Hebrews but says nothing about the authorship. Paul died somewhere between 64 and 67. Hebrews was certainly written before AD70, and maybe 63-65, but it isn't at all certain that it was written before he died. I don't think Clement helps us determine the author.

That is true, Clement does help substantiate Hebrews canonical validity by usage and also an earlier rather than later date, so in the same timescale as the apostles in Rome (e.g. Peter and Paul). Usually authority came from association with an apostle and Hebrews was regarded as an authoritative text.
 
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Can anyone avoid having dealings with God?

4:1
Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it.13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.​

Chapter 3’s exhortation is addressed in the plural to many, exhorting them all to take care lest any single one of their number fall away.

As I swore in my wrath,‘They shall not enter my rest.’”

12 Take care, fraternity of believers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from (the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end. 15 As it is said,“Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”

16 For who were those who heard and yet rebelled? Was it not all those who left Egypt led by Moses? 17 And with whom was he provoked for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did he swear that they would not enter his rest, but to those who were disobedient?

19 So we see that they were unable to enter because of unbelief.​


(19) So we see that they were unable to enter (the rest) because of unbelief. My question is : was it the vision of the city to come they were not able to enter into like the Hebrew 11 saints were commended for?
 
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Can anyone avoid having dealings with God?

4:1
Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it.13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.​

Chapter 3’s exhortation is addressed in the plural to many, exhorting them all to take care lest any single one of their number fall away.

As I swore in my wrath,‘They shall not enter my rest.’”

12 Take care, fraternity of believers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from (the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end. 15 As it is said,“Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”​
16 For who were those who heard and yet rebelled? Was it not all those who left Egypt led by Moses? 17 And with whom was he provoked for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did he swear that they would not enter his rest, but to those who were disobedient.

19 So we see that they were unable to enter because of unbelief.
(19) So we see that they were unable to enter (the rest) because of unbelief. My question is : was it the vision of the city to come they were not able to enter into like the Hebrew 11 saints were commended for?
Edit (to address your question regarding the 11:39 saints, rather than the 11:13-16 saints of my previous response):
No, Heb 3:19 is not referring to heaven, which the Heb 11:39 saints did receive.
What the Heb 11:39 saints did not receive were the gospel realities of the NT, they had only the types and shadows of them, not the substance of them. And yet, even though they had only types and shadows and not the substance, they had commendable faith, compared to what was being displayed by the recipients of this letter who had the gospel realities themselves.

And the '"rest" of Heb 4:1 which is still available, but due to expire at the end of time, is NT salvation-rest from our own works to save ourselves, which salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ.
End of edit.

There are two kinds of promises to two separate groups of saints in Heb 11, the land promise to those of vv. 13-16, and the promises of the gospel realities which were given in types and shadows to those of v. 39, with the word "commended" distinguishing between the two.

It would help if you gave references for the material you are discussing.
 
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Not, it was not, it was Canaan itself.

Heb 3 deals with Canaan, while
Heb 11 deals with the everlasting land promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, personally (Ge 17:8, 26:3, 28:4, 35:12; Ex 6:8; Dt 1:8,34:4), which everlasting inheritance they did not receive, none of them having ever possessed a foot of ground there (Ac 7:5) in Canaan.

The Canaan of Heb 3 was to be the land of rest from wandering and from their enemies.

The "rest" of Heb 3:11,16, 18, 19 is Canaan, under Moses, from Ps 95:7-11, summarizing Israel under Moses.

Heb 11 is about the land promise, not a "vision," it is about their faith and hope in what they understood the land promise to mean--everlasting land in the heavenly city, in the heavenly country.

The Heb 11 saints did enter Canaan, the land of rest from their wandering in the wilderness, but the subject of Heb 11 is the nature of the promise of everlasting land.
the subject is the nature of the promise of everlasting land.
Which fast forwards to Calab and Joshua that the living (who God is the God of)
For indeed we have had the good news [of salvation] preached to us, just as the Israelites also [when the good news of the promised land came to them]; but the message they heard did not benefit them, because it was not united with faith [in God] by those who heard. Hebrews 4:2​
into a new and living way. The promise land from the promise child.

Edit to add: belief is based on He is a God who rewards.
 
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