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Genesis 1:1 tells us that in the beginning God made the heavens and the earth. Later on in Genesis 1, God makes the various stages of what supports life, including the waters, and then life itself. The Bible tells us that in the last stage, Verse 26, God makes man.

But what man did god create? In Genesis 1:26, God says “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” Which leads some to wonder, why didn’t God just say, ‘Let us make man?’ Arguably, by saying “Let us make man in our image,” God was merely explaining to His angels what a man is, that is, a man is someone who looks like them.

But is it possible that when God said to “make man in our image,” he was distinguishing his man from that which may have evolved in the prior stages of His Creation? God in Isaiah 1:18 gives us room to reason, if it helps us to accept Him as He wants us to. In man’s history, science was formed to explain the natural world. But as God created everything in the beginning, He created the natural world too. And as John 21:25 cracks the door open to the possibility that not everything that God did is written in the Bible, could not have things happened that are not written in the Bible?

Consider the discovery of Neanderthal Man. Is there anyone who believes that Neanderthal Man is in God’s Image? In a sense, if that were true, then the old Geico commercials which employ a cave man would arguably be committing blasphemy, in a sense that could any God-fearing person conceive of God selling insurance?

Apart from that, it is reasonable to believe that Neanderthal Man was created in one of the stages prior to when man that was created in God’s image appeared. From here, there are two possibilities: Either God Himself created Neanderthal Man, or, as science would tell us, Neanderthal Man evolved. But as to the latter, in that sense, could God have not created life in the beginning with an ability to evolve?

Arguably, what gives weight to God creating evolution is John 1:3 which says that all things were made through him, and “without him was not any thing made that was made.” Why the qualifying quote? Why not just leave it that all things were made through God? I tell you there is a strong suggestion that John is telling us that God created life which He programmed to create other life. On that basis, then, it is conceivable that, say, Neanderthal Man, who was not created in God’s image, evolved from the ape.

Those of us who drive cars, use a telephone, listen to music through our cars, and use air conditioners in the summertime could reason that God didn’t make these things. He made the elements which gave rise to these things, but man made these things from the elements. Is there any place in the Bible, not just the Old Testament but in the New Testament, that describes people using these things? And going back to Genesis, did God create the Tower of Babel? The qualifying quote in John 1:3 could serve to establish that at least some things that were made AFTER THE BEGINNING were not directly made by God, they were made indirectly to the extent that God provided the raw materials. In that sense, evolution could have been God’s way of providing the raw materials for life forms to adapt. So, as birds evolved from the same makeup as dinosaurs, Neanderthal Man was the result of the ape adapting to its environment.
 

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Genesis 1:1 tells us that in the beginning God made the heavens and the earth. Later on in Genesis 1, God makes the various stages of what supports life, including the waters, and then life itself. The Bible tells us that in the last stage, Verse 26, God makes man.

But what man did god create? In Genesis 1:26, God says “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” Which leads some to wonder, why didn’t God just say, ‘Let us make man?’ Arguably, by saying “Let us make man in our image,” God was merely explaining to His angels what a man is, that is, a man is someone who looks like them.

But is it possible that when God said to “make man in our image,” he was distinguishing his man from that which may have evolved in the prior stages of His Creation? God in Isaiah 1:18 gives us room to reason, if it helps us to accept Him as He wants us to. In man’s history, science was formed to explain the natural world. But as God created everything in the beginning, He created the natural world too. And as John 21:25 cracks the door open to the possibility that not everything that God did is written in the Bible, could not have things happened that are not written in the Bible?

Consider the discovery of Neanderthal Man. Is there anyone who believes that Neanderthal Man is in God’s Image? In a sense, if that were true, then the old Geico commercials which employ a cave man would arguably be committing blasphemy, in a sense that could any God-fearing person conceive of God selling insurance?

Apart from that, it is reasonable to believe that Neanderthal Man was created in one of the stages prior to when man that was created in God’s image appeared. From here, there are two possibilities: Either God Himself created Neanderthal Man, or, as science would tell us, Neanderthal Man evolved. But as to the latter, in that sense, could God have not created life in the beginning with an ability to evolve?

Arguably, what gives weight to God creating evolution is John 1:3 which says that all things were made through him, and “without him was not any thing made that was made.” Why the qualifying quote? Why not just leave it that all things were made through God? I tell you there is a strong suggestion that John is telling us that God created life which He programmed to create other life. On that basis, then, it is conceivable that, say, Neanderthal Man, who was not created in God’s image, evolved from the ape.

Those of us who drive cars, use a telephone, listen to music through our cars, and use air conditioners in the summertime could reason that God didn’t make these things. He made the elements which gave rise to these things, but man made these things from the elements. Is there any place in the Bible, not just the Old Testament but in the New Testament, that describes people using these things? And going back to Genesis, did God create the Tower of Babel? The qualifying quote in John 1:3 could serve to establish that at least some things that were made AFTER THE BEGINNING were not directly made by God, they were made indirectly to the extent that God provided the raw materials. In that sense, evolution could have been God’s way of providing the raw materials for life forms to adapt. So, as birds evolved from the same makeup as dinosaurs, Neanderthal Man was the result of the ape adapting to its environment.

There is God and creation, evolution is not a part of Gods creation. If anything what you are seeing that people say passes as evolution, is a result of satan and his attempt in Genesis 6 at destroying the pure human blood line. Which also carried over into the animal world because Genesis 6:12 states So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.
 
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Genesis 1:1 tells us that in the beginning God made the heavens and the earth. Later on in Genesis 1, God makes the various stages of what supports life, including the waters, and then life itself. The Bible tells us that in the last stage, Verse 26, God makes man.

But what man did god create? In Genesis 1:26, God says “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” Which leads some to wonder, why didn’t God just say, ‘Let us make man?’ Arguably, by saying “Let us make man in our image,” God was merely explaining to His angels what a man is, that is, a man is someone who looks like them.

But is it possible that when God said to “make man in our image,” he was distinguishing his man from that which may have evolved in the prior stages of His Creation? God in Isaiah 1:18 gives us room to reason, if it helps us to accept Him as He wants us to. In man’s history, science was formed to explain the natural world. But as God created everything in the beginning, He created the natural world too. And as John 21:25 cracks the door open to the possibility that not everything that God did is written in the Bible, could not have things happened that are not written in the Bible?

Consider the discovery of Neanderthal Man. Is there anyone who believes that Neanderthal Man is in God’s Image? In a sense, if that were true, then the old Geico commercials which employ a cave man would arguably be committing blasphemy, in a sense that could any God-fearing person conceive of God selling insurance?

Apart from that, it is reasonable to believe that Neanderthal Man was created in one of the stages prior to when man that was created in God’s image appeared. From here, there are two possibilities: Either God Himself created Neanderthal Man, or, as science would tell us, Neanderthal Man evolved. But as to the latter, in that sense, could God have not created life in the beginning with an ability to evolve?

Arguably, what gives weight to God creating evolution is John 1:3 which says that all things were made through him, and “without him was not any thing made that was made.” Why the qualifying quote? Why not just leave it that all things were made through God? I tell you there is a strong suggestion that John is telling us that God created life which He programmed to create other life. On that basis, then, it is conceivable that, say, Neanderthal Man, who was not created in God’s image, evolved from the ape.

Those of us who drive cars, use a telephone, listen to music through our cars, and use air conditioners in the summertime could reason that God didn’t make these things. He made the elements which gave rise to these things, but man made these things from the elements. Is there any place in the Bible, not just the Old Testament but in the New Testament, that describes people using these things? And going back to Genesis, did God create the Tower of Babel? The qualifying quote in John 1:3 could serve to establish that at least some things that were made AFTER THE BEGINNING were not directly made by God, they were made indirectly to the extent that God provided the raw materials. In that sense, evolution could have been God’s way of providing the raw materials for life forms to adapt. So, as birds evolved from the same makeup as dinosaurs, Neanderthal Man was the result of the ape adapting to its environment.

There are two creation events in genesis. They happened at different times.
 
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But is it possible that when God said to “make man in our image,” he was distinguishing his man from that which may have evolved in the prior stages of His Creation?

The text does not say "he evolved things" before making man. We would have to "insert" that.

God in Isaiah 1:18 gives us room to reason, if it helps us to accept Him as He wants us to. In man’s history, science was formed to explain the natural world. But as God created everything in the beginning, He created the natural world too. And as John 21:25 cracks the door open to the possibility that not everything that God did is written in the Bible, could not have things happened that are not written in the Bible?

Most certainly the Bible is not an exhaustive account of every word God spoke

Consider the discovery of Neanderthal Man. Is there anyone who believes that Neanderthal Man is in God’s Image?

"Culturally, Neanderthal was fully human. He buried his dead. He drew paintings on cave walls. He used fire and tools. He played the flute."

Maybe your question is how can we map everything found in the mud/dirt/clay with the Genesis account of Creation.

First step - take every skull feature of all people groups alive today and compare them for wide range of diversity -- then start talking about Neanderthal.

Apart from that, it is reasonable to believe that Neanderthal Man was created in one of the stages prior to when man that was created in God’s image appeared.

That would be an admitted "insert" for origins that is not a feature of the text but is a feature of extreme inference.

As I said - first take all people groups alive today and try that trick.

"Neandertals had larger brains than we now do. But modern humans roaming around Africa and Europe 90,000 years ago had brains about the same size as Neandertals, albeit with larger temporal lobes."

"Modern humans differ from archaic humans in many respects, but anthropologists have been trying to define our species, Homo sapiens, based on the features of their skulls alone. That’s because skulls vary in obvious ways and many have survived as fossils. “The problem is that some skulls that are clearly modern don’t have all the modern features and a number of clearly archaic skulls have some of these features,” Lieberman notes."

Skull and face changes define modern humans
 
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Genesis 1 says the sun and moon came into existence after plants. That is just fine for "a 24 hour day" between them given the geothermal effects of all the changes that come before that -- but it does not work on the scale of 100's of millions of years of difference. God did not set it up for us to "imagine" that "yeah sure that would happen on its own ... given enough time".
 
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But is it possible that when God said to “make man in our image,” he was distinguishing his man from that which may have evolved in the prior stages of His Creation?

Why create a way to let the lie of evolution in?

There is no such thing no matter how you slice it, and Christians need to stop listening to evolutionists, no matter how popular it may be, as they have never been able to prove it is a fact.
 
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Why create a way to let the lie of evolution in?

There is no such thing no matter how you slice it, and Christians need to stop listening to evolutionists, no matter how popular it may be, as they have never been able to prove it is a fact.

Here's a simple question...Did God create Neanderthal Man? If not, then how to explain his coming into being? If He did, then I guess that passages such as Proverbs 3:5 and Romans 8:28 apply here, that say and/or imply not to bother trying to determine a reason?
 
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Here's a simple question...Did God create Neanderthal Man? If not, then how to explain his coming into being? If He did, then I guess that passages such as Proverbs 3:5 and Romans 8:28 apply here, that say and/or imply not to bother trying to determine a reason?

Do you have a picture of this Neanderthal man? Or what is your proof of his existance?
 
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> Please post your proof of his existance right here, along with that picture.

***What does the word “existance” mean? Is it in an English dictionary? I don’t know what it means, and I wasn’t aware of its EXISTENCE.

> No article's please, as I need to know just how you drew your conclusion.

***Please locate the word “please” in the article, as I couldn’t find it. As far as I know, there is no word “please” within the verbiage of the article. I can attest, however that there are at least 70 instances of the word “the” in the article, so if you were to have written “no article’s the,” it would lead me to ask which “the” in the article you were talking about.

Aside from that, learning in general, or education, whatever word you want to use, involves becoming aware of something you weren’t aware of before, simply because it wasn’t in your physical purview.

Teachers first made me aware that Abraham Lincoln existed, for instance. Based on your apparent system of acquiring knowledge, I should have asked the teacher to show me Lincoln’s bones to prove his existence.

Encyclopedias have made me aware of how airplanes fly. Based on your apparent system of acquiring knowledge, if you require that the forces that keep an airplane in flight be shown to you, that would be impossible since you can’t see air. Yet, many people have accepted that air exists. Anyone who has to be shown the existence of something to accept it is limited in their ability to acquire knowledge.

But the same people, and I for that matter, have accepted that God exists even though we don’t see Him. We have faith that He exists and that He conveys His Grace on the people He chooses. But as for the natural world, if you have to see it to believe it since out of sight is out of mind, then things like learning and education have limits; therefore, what’s the point of having schools, and encyclopedias, for that matter?

What’s the point of communication since you require we must see for ourselves? Imagine the world populated by doubting Thomas’. Imagine the treasure-trove of knowledge that wouldn’t have been passed through the ages if people had to see it to believe it.

Fortunately we do have this knowledge. Ironically, the same people who have accepted God on faith, such as the monks in churches, consciously stored up knowledge, including secular knowledge, during the Dark Ages so it can be conveyed to others, thereby promoting the concept of education. Do you need to see the bones of some of those monks to know they existed?
 
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Anyone who has to be shown the existence of something to accept it is limited in their ability to acquire knowledge.

And anyone who will automatically believe whatever claim is told them without proof, is in for a rough life.

What does the word “existance” mean? Is it in an English dictionary? I don’t know what it means, and I wasn’t aware of its EXISTENCE.

So, since you are unable to prove your claim, you resort to the spell check defense? LOL

***Please locate the word “please” in the article, as I couldn’t find it. As far as I know, there is no word “please” within the verbiage of the article. I can attest, however that there are at least 70 instances of the word “the” in the article, so if you were to have written “no article’s the,” it would lead me to ask which “the” in the article you were talking about.

Incoherrent.

Do you need to see the bones of some of those monks to know they existed?

The problem with that argument is there are plenty of bones to prove what you would call modern day man, and what some of us call, the only man.
 
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And anyone who will automatically believe whatever claim is told them without proof, is in for a rough life.

So, since you are unable to prove your claim, you resort to the spell check defense? LOL.

Incoherrent.

The problem with that argument is there are plenty of bones to prove what you would call modern day man, and what some of us call, the only man.

***Well, Kenny, people at this point know where I stand in responding to you, and you're probably satisfied you got your point across, whatever that is.

That said, we're done.
 
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***Well, Kenny, people at this point know where I stand in responding to you, and you're probably satisfied you got your point across, whatever that is.

That said, we're done.

We were done when you first made the false, unprovable claim, you just didn't know it yet.

And my point was simple, there is no proof your neanderthal existed. You took their word for it like many do, because to them the word of the world superceeds the word of God.
 
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Click on the hyperlink below, from Britannica.com.

Neanderthal | Characteristics, DNA, & Facts
It says they share genetic code with modern populations indicating that Neanderthals were a people group that coexisted and interbred with other Modern Humans (Homo Sapiens) and were thus not a distinct species.

That makes the question equivalent to asking if God created both the short Inuit people of the Arctic Circle and the large Samoan People of the Pacific or did one of them evolve from apes?
 
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There are two creation events in genesis. They happened at different times.
I also inferred this from the Scriptures. First event was material (hardware) Genesis 1 . Second event was spirtual (software) Genesis 2 (Eden).

How do you see it?
 
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Here's a simple question...Did God create Neanderthal Man? If not, then how to explain his coming into being? If He did, then I guess that passages such as Proverbs 3:5 and Romans 8:28 apply here, that say and/or imply not to bother trying to determine a reason?

What is Neanderthal Man?

For the longest time, Neanderthals have been closely linked with the modern human in terms of characteristics and biological makeup. Several aspects of the Neanderthals life have been observed in humans including their way of doing things and the physical appearances. In fact, at some point, both Neanderthals and modern humans were thought to belong to the same species with different subspecies.
Comparison between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens


Homo neanderthalensis were closely related to humans having about 99.7% of similar DNA ... In view of these theories, the relationship between Neanderthals and the modern human is a controversial subject in research and academia.
Comparison between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens

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Have you ever watched National Geographic and found that as compared to Euorpeans there are some tribes on Earth that are stockier and shorter with a wider nose?

One of the most striking similarities between the Neanderthals and the modern human is the physical appearance. However, the Neanderthals were stockier and shorter with a wider nose than the current modern human.
Comparison between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens

So then - no wonder we have this

Neanderthals Are Still Human!
 
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