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In Revelation 13, it tells us the beast will receive a deadly wound and that deadly wound will be healed. I think this is the beast vessel. This vessel is most likely in power today or about to take his position.

There will be an assassination attempt on him or he will suffer some sort of brain injury like a stroke or an aneurysm. There will be reports that he died several times and had to be revived. They will say it’s a miracle that he’s alive. This is when the beast that was and is not and yet is who ascends from the bottomless pit will inhabit his body. The body of the vessel with be taken over by the beast from the bottomless pit who will be 1 of the 7 Emperors. The Bible says this:

Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


So look for the deadly wound and this person will also strengthen the Abraham Accords. Right now you have a Saudi Arabia or Iran in the agreement. In Daniel 9:27 it says he will confirm the agreement. Confirm in this context means to stengthen. Think of how accurate the Bible was in this verse.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The Bible describes an agreement just like the Abraham Accords. It's an agreement where multiple nations join into. Whoever this person is, he will be seen to strengthen the agreement. It could be Biden or some Muslim country that joins and the world will report that it's a surprise and the leader of this nation strengthened the agreement and is seen as a new friend to Israel.

Just think if a country like Saudi Arabia(Mohammed bin Salman) joined the Accords. It could also be a President that confirms and strengthens the Agreement. Whoever it will be, it will make world news that they strengthened the Abraham Accords. Right now people say the Abraham Accords is a good thing but you need a country like Saudi Arabia or Turkey to really make the Agreement stronger.
 

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In Daniel 9:27 it says he will confirm the agreement. Confirm in this context means to stengthen. Think of how accurate the Bible was in this verse.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Do you think the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?

The following is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.


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Do you think the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?

The following is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.


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Do you understand that the topic of this thread is how the deadly wound of the beast will take place? What does the 1599 Geneva Bible commentary say in regards to the topic of this thread?
 
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Christ was crucified, died, and then rose again as the sign of his divinity, as the only sign given to the Jews.

The beast will voluntarily receive a deadly wound, die (according to medical experts) and then miraculously recover, also as a sign of his supposed divinity, thus appearing to be as unique as or equal to Christ. This is why people subsequently begin to erroneously worship the beast, perhaps imitating the legitimate worship of Christ.

We can't dismiss the possibility that this whole process for the beast may be wholly or partially fraudulent, since the devil is the father of lies. Exactly how the beast is "wounded" isn't known at this time, but the whole idea is to deceive people into believing a lie about this particular man's spiritual or divine status.
 
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Do you understand that the topic of this thread is how the deadly wound of the beast will take place? What does the 1599 Geneva Bible commentary say in regards to the topic of this thread?

It says Daniel 9:27 has nothing to do with the beast.


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It says Daniel 9:27 has nothing to do with the beast.
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Could you do a copy and paste of the 1599 Geneva Bible commentary in regards to the mortally wounded head in Revelation 13?
 
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It says Daniel 9:27 has nothing to do with the beast.
So your claim is Daniel was talking about the first coming only, and John in Revelation 13 was not, but the second coming. So we should not use the book of Daniel for anything. None of it relates to the Second Coming. How is that different than full preterism?

Nothing in Revelation can be related to anything the 1st century readers already knew. All of Revelation only applies to this year and the next 6 years?
 
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So your claim is Daniel was talking about the first coming only, and John in Revelation 13 was not, but the second coming. So we should not use the book of Daniel for anything. None of it relates to the Second Coming. How is that different than full preterism?

Nothing in Revelation can be related to anything the 1st century readers already knew. All of Revelation only applies to this year and the next 6 years?


Mat_27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;


Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.


Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.


Do you think the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?

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Mat_27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;


Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.


Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.


Do you think the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?

What does this have to do with the claim: Revelation is completely void of Daniel's prophetic writings?
 
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