THE CHANGING OF GOD'S SABBATH TO SUNDAY WORSHIP?
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Paul is referring to the Jewish feast ceremonial days , not the weekly Sabbath. If you go to Exodus it talks about stoning someone for breaking the Sabbath. You think the scripture here is God contradicting Himself that the weekly Sabbath He commanded us to keep Holy now says, whatever its up to you if you want to keep it or not. I think that's a dangerous way to read this passage. There is no scripture saying that the Lords Holy Sabbath is done away with. Just like God does not want us to break any of His commandments.
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The Old Covenant was between God and Israel. Teh New covenant is also between god and Israel.. Here is the passage that defines who the covenant is for and what God will do in the New Covenant:
Jeremiah 31:31-34
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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Technically the time we are living in mow is between the Old and New Covenants. it is the calling out of teh Gentiles a people for Jesus name along with the Jews to form the one new man that is called the church or the body of Christ, or the Bride of Christ.
As Paul said in Romans 11, once the full number of the gentiles have come in, all Israel will be saved and he paraphrases the terms and conditions of the new Covenant found in Jer. 31.
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In your desperation to force the church to keep Saturday as Sabbath you forgot some very important facts of the passage you quoted.
Mark 16, and Luke 23. who was it that kept Sabbath according to command? It was all Jews!!!!!
Exodus 31:12-17
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12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.
14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
So even Jewish believers today need to honor the Sabbath according to the Word of God Himself!
Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel- not God and Gentiles. If a Gentile believer wishes to keep Sabbath they are free to do so, but it is not a command for us. Just the children of Israel!
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... all 613 Mitzvot?
Because “whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.” [James 2:10] for God commands in the OT that men "Keep all my decrees and all my laws and follow them. I am the LORD." [Leviticus 19:37]
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True dear friend and what would those changes be according to you?
You mean like Romans 8:4 where it says; [4], That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. So if God's righteousness is being fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit, whose spirit do those have who are breaking God's law *1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:6-10? The new covenant is not a covenant of law breaking it establishes Gods law in the lives of those who believe and follow Gods' Word by faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yes, we establish the law. - Romans 3:31. You may want to read a bit more about what exactly is God's new covenant in Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34; Ezekiel 36:24-27; Romans 13:8-10; James 2:8-12; Matthew 22:36-40; Hebrews 7:1-28; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-28 and Hebrews 10:1-17.
There is no scripture that says Gods' 4th commandment which is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day of rest. This is simply a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from God and His Word handed down from the same people that gave us Christmas and Easter which have their origins in paganism and sun-worship.
According to the scriptures JESUS says if we knowingly follow man-made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God we are not worshiping God in Matthew 15:3-9. As posted somewhere else if we are not worshiping God by following man-made teachings and traditions that break Gods commandments then who are we following according to the scriptures *1 John 3:6-10; 1 John 2:3-4?
No one observes the Spirit of the law by breaking the letter of the law. The Spirit is the law in the letter, is the Spirit of the Word *John 6:63 and works through the letter as we believe and follow God's Word.
Romans 14 has absolutely nothing to do with Gods' 4th commandment. The context of Romans 14:5 is in regard to eating and not eating (fasting) on days that men esteem over other day and judging others in this regard and not about days that God esteems. It is true some try to pull Romans 14:5 from it's context and try to read into it what it does not teach. There is no mention of God's 4th commandment Sabbath anywhere in the book of Romans 14. Perhaps if you or anyone else disagrees with me you can show me the scripture in Romans 14 that says it is talking about Gods' 4th commandment?
The new covenant is not a covenant of lawlessness or breaking God's law. According to Gods' Word in the new covenant scriptures the purpose of Gods law is to give us the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4 and to lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith *Galatians 3:22-25 and made free to walk in God's Spirit *Galatians 5:16 to love *Matthew 22:36-40. Those who have been born again *John 3:3-7 though faith *1 John 5:4 to walk in God's Spirit *Romans 8:1-4 Galatians 5:16 do not knowingly practice sin according to the scriptures *1 John 3:6-9 which is defines as breaking anyone of God's 10 commandments *James 2:10-11.
This is God's new covenant promise of a new heart to love *Hebrews 8:10-12 as love is the fulfilling of God's law through faith *1 John 5:3-4, not the breaking of it *1 John 2:3-4. God's new covenant promise of a new heart to love is expressed through obedience to God's Word not disobeying God's Word *Matthew 22:36-40; Romans 13:8-10 and is why JESUS says if you love me keep my commandments *John 14:15 and again If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. *John 15:10. No one abides in God's love by breaking his commandments as they are no longer believing and following God's Word and is why JESUS says in John 14:23 If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our stayed with him.
No one is practicing legalism if they keep God's commandments because they have been born again in the Spirit and given a new heart to love God. This is the new covenant promise in all those who believe and follow God's Word *Hebrews 8:10-12; Romans 13:8-10; James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:6-10; 1 John 2:3-4
Hope this is helpful.
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Paul is not referring to the Sabbath in Romans 14:5. Read the chapter for yourself. Romans 14 has absolutely nothing to do with Gods' 4th commandment. The context of Romans 14:5 is in regard to eating and not eating (fasting) on days that men esteem over other day and judging others in this regard and not about days that God esteems. It is true some try to pull Romans 14:5 from it's context and try to read into it what it does not teach. There is no mention of God's 4th commandment Sabbath anywhere in the book of Romans 14. Perhaps if you or anyone else disagrees with me you can show me the scripture in Romans 14 that says it is talking about Gods' 4th commandment? I am happy to discuss this further with you in detail showing context if your interested?
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I did not see you provide any scripture for your claims that God's 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday (or the first day of the week) as a holy day. Where are your scriptures? If God's Word matter so much to you and I am only sharing God's Word with you then why do you not believe them? Sunday worship is not God's Word it is a teaching and tradition of men that has been given to us by the same people that give us Christmas and Easter which have their origins in paganism and sun-worship. There is not one single scripture in all of God's Word that says God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. JESUS says if we knowingly follow man-made teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God we are not worshiping God in Matthew 15:3-9. If you believe only God's Word matters who should we believe; God or man?
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God's ISRAEL in the new covenant are all those who believe and follow Gods' Word. If we are not a part of God's ISRAEL then we have no part in God's new covenant promise *Hebrews 8:10-12. Gentile believers are now grafted in *Romans 11:13-27
GOD'S ISRAEL ARE ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND FOLLOW GOD'S WORD
There is no such thing as Jew or Greek anymore. All who believe and follow God's Word are one in Christ. Israel in the OLD COVENANT were those from the seed of Abraham. In the NEW COVENANT, if you are in Christ then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise...
EPHESIANS 2:11-13 [11], Why remember, that you being in TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; [12], That AT THAT TIME [in the Past] YOU WERE WITHOUT CHRIST, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, STRANGERS FROM THE COVENANT OF PROMISE, HAVING NO HOPE, AND WITHOUT GOD IN THE WORLD: [13], BUT NOW IN CHRIST JESUS, YOU WHO WERE FAR OFF ARE MADE NEAR BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.
GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.
God's true ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are not by name only but all those in Christ. Those of the FLESH (sinful human nature) are not Abrahams seed but those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God in Christ are God's ISRAEL...
ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.
God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...
ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
In the NEW COVENANT all those in Christ are are God's ISRAEL...
COLOSSIANS 3:11 [11], WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: BUT CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL.
ROMANS 10:11-13 [11], For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [12], FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [13], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.
The New Covenant is for God's Israel...
EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A NEW HEART WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU; AND I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND GIVE YOU A HEART OF FLESH. [27], AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES AND YOU SHALL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.
and again...
JEREMIAH 31:33-34 [33], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS,AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Paul proclaims it here...
HEBREWS 8:10-12 [10], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
The NEW COVENANT is for GOD'S ISRAEL which represent those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD.
If you are not part of GOD'S ISRAEL then you are not a part of the NEW COVENANT (Hebrews 8:10-12).
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CONCLUSION: God's ISRAEL is the name given by God to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. GENTILES are now grafted in. If you are not a part of the God's ISRAEL then you have no part in God's new covenant promise that is given to all those who believe and follow God's Word *Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:24-27. Unless we are born again in the Spirit to love we cannot enter into the kingdom of Heaven *John 3:3-7; 1 John 3:6-10; Romans 8:4; Galatians 5:16; Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14
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The post above this one deals with this post and defines God's ISRAEL in the new covenant as all those who believe and follow God's Word. Gentile believers are now grafted in and we are all one in Christ. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in God's new covenant promise.
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Are we keeping all God's shadow laws for remission of sins and the ceremonial Sanctuary laws from the 613 including animal sacrifices and sin offerings in the new covenant by accepting JESUS who those laws pointed to? *John 1:29; 36; Hebrews 7:1-28; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrew 9:1-28; and Hebrews 10:1-17? We are in the new covenant dear friend not the old. The purpose of God's 10 commandments in the new covenant is to give us the knowledge of what sin is *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4 and to lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith *Galatians 3:22-25. JESUS is our great high Priest in the heavenly Sanctuary not made with hands and our perfect sacrifice for sin (Hebrews 7; Hebrews 8; Hebrews 9 and Hebrews 10) who saves us by his grace through faith in His Word *Ephesians 2:8-9; 1 John 5:4. No one shows faith by not doing what God's Word tells them to do *1 John 3:4; Romans 2:13. This is the faith of devils according to the scriptures *James 2:18-20; 26.
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So many misapplications of SCripture in such a short space!.
Your conclusion is dead wrong. Show me one verse where God calls the church "Israel".
Yes the New covenant is for the whole house of Israel and Judah as it says in teh New Covenant.
You are right , the church is not part of the new covenant! We are teh church and not the house of Israel and Judah!
Colossians 3 and romans 10? Absolutely true! but that has nothing to do with the new covenant.
Gentiles who believe do not mystically become "spiritual jews". We become part of teh one new man where there is neither Jew nor Greek, nor Israel.
And the promise to Abraham was made before the old covenant! We are heirs by promise not by covenant!
Show the SCripture that says Gods Israel is the name given to all who believe and follow. I have read the NT over 200 times and can't remember a verse that even looks a little like that.
But then again you forget that God has not forgetten the Jew and has made numerous specific promises to the nation of Israel that He said He WILL fulfill to the nation of Israel. Not some man made "spiritual Israel" who seek to rob Gods covenanted people of the promises God made specifically to them.
YOu seem to forget the words of the New Covenant.
Jeremiah 31:31-34
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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
1. According to you- you are a natural Israeli. You believe the new covenant is for you so your fathers were in the desert making you a natural Jew.
2. Which house are you of? The house of Israel (10 tribes) or the house of Judah (2 tribes)
3. You claim we are the new covenant people. Okay so then---when were "those days" so that all the following occurred "after those days"
4. god said after those days He will be our God and we His people. and we will have His laws written in our hearts.
5. Why o are you even writing on this thread? After all god said in the New covenant no one is goging to have to teach us to know the Lord! for we will all know HIm!
6. Don't you find it odd that if God said we would not need teachers, that God ordained Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist, pastors and TEACHERS! Did He forget that He already made us know HIm?
To quote Ricky Ricardo: "Lucy!, You got some splaining to do!"
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... sorry, chief, buy only 9 of the 10 Commandments were repeated by Jesus. The Sabbath was changed to “Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath” and we enter into HIS Sabbath rest. Show me where Jesus said “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy” in the Gospels. It isn’t there.
James warned you that you cannot pick and choose the Law like a Chinese menu with one from column A and two from column B. If you will follow the Law, then you must keep ALL of the law. If you are saved by grace, then you must lean with all of your weight on the grace of Christ.
I am free to praise God EVERY DAY, and not just on Saturday.
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