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Your attitude toward me, a New Zealander, is the typical Australian one. If you even think about NZ at all, it is with distain and you all obviously think we are some lower form of life.
This from a country that started as a convict settlement! And who bowl underarm, to win a game of cricket.

However, in one way, you are right, I haven't any academic qualifications. as if they count for anything and I am basically self taught, which I now see as a blessing. I an not 'brainwashed', like all who attend Bible Colleges and seminaries, are.
In case you think what you said here is evidence in your favor against us Amils as if we're all just brainwashed, please think again. I did not attend a Bible college or seminary and have no formal Bible training of any kind, either. The Holy Spirit doesn't need to use Bible college or seminary professors to teach us the truth.

The thing that bothers me about your particular overall end times view is that you're the only one who believes it. Your denial that 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 relates to the return of Christ is a good example of what I'm talking about. I am convinced that you are the only futurist on the planet who doesn't believe that passage is referring to the return of Christ.

I view the Book of Revelation as a linear narrative, it says; this will happen, then that will take place, and after all that, God will come to dwell with mankind for Eternity. There are some flashbacks to fill in details.
Why do you allow for non-chronological "flashbacks" existing in the book (which they do), but not for any parallel sections (recapitulations) within the book?

There are metaphors and allegories, they are usually easily explained and to make them mean that all of Revelation should be viewed as allegorical, is serious error.
Easily explained you say? Okay then. Please tell me the identity of the four beasts full of eyes and six wings (Rev 4:6-9), the 24 elders, the beast with seven heads and ten horns, the second beast/false prophet, the two witnesses, the ten horns/ten kings (Rev 17:12) and the harlot Babylon.

Also, no one is saying the entire book should be viewed as allegorical. But, anyone who denies that a good portion of it contains figurative language just isn't paying attention.

Be so kind as to post the scripture that says Jesus will raise and Judge all people at His Return.
He did say an hour/time (Greek: hora) is coming when He will raise and judge all people.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

At what hour/time do you think this will occur if not at His return? Matthew 25:31-46 portrays all people being judged at His return as well.
 
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The thing that bothers me about your particular overall end times view is that you're the only one who believes it. Your denial that 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 relates to the return of Christ is a good example of what I'm talking about. I am convinced that you are the only futurist on the planet who doesn't believe that passage is referring to the return of Christ.
Wait - what?
He said that?
How did I miss that?

"but not for any parallel sections (recapitulations) within the book?"
Exactly! There are a number of parallel sections all pretty much ending in different descriptions of judgement day.

He did say an hour/time (Greek: hora) is coming when He will raise and judge all people.
Hey - if 2 Thess 1:7-10 isn't about the return of the Lord - then he's not going to be swayed by the use of the word hour.

2 Thess 1:7-10
7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might 10 on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.​

Hey Keras - this is one of those verses that basically says Jesus can't return to rule his holy people UNTIL the ungodly have been punished.

Jesus judges before he can rule on earth.

How's your precious pre-GWT Millennium looking now?

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."​

Amen! Resurrection = judgement and eternal life - not a partial-paradise or 'half-heaven' as Keras would paint the Millennium.

You would have known these things if you had bothered to have this 'discussion' via the trusted medium of reading established peer-reviewed theological works - even those written for lay people like myself. I'm no theologian. But my church has some of the world leaders in theology - a Professor of Old Testament - probably one of the top 10 OT guys in the world - and another Bible College lecturer whose brain I love to pick. Theology - you ought to give it a chance. It's what you're doing anyway - you may as well get good at it and read what the best and brightest have written - instead of retreating ever further into a theological world of your own creation. (And deep down I know you know you've just made half of this up - especially your surreal reading of Luke 13!)
 
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Wait - what?
He said that?
How did I miss that?
Yes, he has said multiple times that he doesn't see 2 Thess 1:6-10 as referring to the return of Christ. Maybe not in this particular thread, but in other threads for sure.
 
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(And deep down I know you know you've just made half of this up - especially your surreal reading of Luke 13!)
I deny 'making up' any of what I have written here and on my website.
A blatant example of 'making up', is your purely assumed belief that John 5:28 happens at the Return.
That verse does not say when the resurrection and Judgment will take place. We know when; from Revelation 20:11-15, AFTER the Millennium.

Your objection to the fact of Luke 13:32-33 being prophesies for two separate times, is overruled by how the third 'day' in verse 32, He is perfected, or achieves his goal and in verse 33, it is; meet My death. 2 quite different outcomes.
As Hosea 6:2 tells us;.... on the third 'day', He will raise us up and we shall live in His sight. Nothing about being dead or in heaven.

There will be a Millennium, when Jesus will reign as the World Ruler, Bible Prophecy confirms it and no amount of noise from objectors to this truth, will have any effect on its fulfillment.
 
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Yes, he has said multiple times that he doesn't see 2 Thess 1:6-10 as referring to the return of Christ. Maybe not in this particular thread, but in other threads for sure.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just; that the Lord should balance the account by sending judgement to those who afflict you, to give those who love and serve Him relief, when Jesus comes to punish the ungodly, with His mighty host in blazing fire. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, but on that great Day His glory will be revealed to all true believers. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 18:7-15

This passage of Scripture is not describing the Glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. It is an event before then –‘ when He comes in blazing fire and reveals His glory among His own’. It does not fit how He destroys the armies that are attacking Jerusalem at His Return, then how the whole world will see Him.

2 Peter 3:7 & 10 The Day of the Lord will come unexpectedly. The heavens will disappear with a roar and flaming fire will bring all the earth to judgement. Malachi 4:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of a fierce fire which will consume God’s enemies. Zephaniah 1:14-18

Psalms 110:5-6 The Lord at Your right hand – He crushes kings on the Day of His wrath. In majesty He judges the nations, causing destruction throughout the world. Ps.97:2

Revelation 14:14-20 On a white cloud, I saw a figure like a man, wearing a gold crown and holding a sharp sickle. Put in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come to harvest the earth. Then the angel that has authority over fire, called to Him - ‘Swing Your sickle now, for the earth’s grapes are ripe and ready for harvest. So the grapes were gathered and thrown into the great winepress of the Lord’s wrath. The blood flowed from it for 200 miles. Isaiah 63:1-6, Zephaniah 1:17

Jeremiah 51:5-6 Israel and Judah are not left widowed by their God, by the Lord. But their Land is full of guilt, condemned by the Holy One of Israel. Flee out of Babylon, [Babylon: a metaphor for any godless nation] each person for himself or you will perish for her sins. For now comes the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, He is paying her full recompense. Ezekiel 22:1-7, Revelation 18:4-8

Isaiah 17:1-10 Damascus will cease to be a city, just a heap of ruins forever desolate. On that Day, Jacobs strength will fade away, as when a reaper gathers the grain or as an olive tree is stripped at harvest and left with just a few berries. On that Day all will look to their Maker, all idols and the works of their hands are as rubbish. On that Day, your cities will be deserted and abandoned, because you have forgotten the Lord, your strength and protector. Jeremiah 9:12-13, Isaiah 6:11-12

Isaiah 17:12-14 Listen! It is the thunder of vast forces, like the roaring of mighty waters. Nations flee, driven before the storm like thistledown. At evening, all is terror, by morning all is gone. Such is the fate of those who conspire to attack us. Psalms 83, Isaiah 66:15-16
Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.

These Bible verses describe the next prophesied event – how God sends His right hand man, Jesus, to ‘ harvest the world of His enemies, those who conspire to attack His people’ This is also the Sixth Seal punishment of the ungodly peoples, reiterated and described in over 100 Bible prophecies. This worldwide judgement of fire accurately fits how the earth would be affected by an unprecedented Coronal Mass Ejection. But as Isaiah and many other prophets say, His righteous people will be protected.
 
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Paul spoke of that day where all people would give an account of themselves here as well.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

What basis is there for thinking that the day of judgment mentioned by Paul in the above passage is any different than what is portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46?

What basis is there for thinking Matthew 25:31-46 is a different day of judgment than Rev 20:11-15. Are the following two passages somehow speaking of different things?

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels...46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever...15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
They are all prophesies that refer to the Great White throne Judgment, which will take place after the Millennium. Revelation 20:11-15
NOT before!
 
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A blatant example of 'making up', is your purely assumed belief that John 5:28 happens at the Return.
It absolutely does happen at the return, as that is what John 5:28 says!

John 5:28 "28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."

Note: the good rise to LIVE - not to live a bit and then die again. The results here are final and permanent.

That verse does not say when the resurrection and Judgment will take place.
Again, your emphasis on 'when' is beside the point.
It explains that ALL are raised for salvation or judgement, and that this will be their FINAL state.

We know when; from Revelation 20:11-15, AFTER the Millennium.
That could fit IF:-
  • there was any other verse in the New Testament that hinted that Jesus would return twice,
  • there was any other verse in the New Testament that hinted there was a literal Millennium,
  • that those who were resurrected would die again,
  • and if the Rev 20 Millennium verses themselves EVER SAID JESUS RETURNED DURING THIS 'MILLENNIUM'! (You refuse to address this point! I know why. :oldthumbsup: :oldthumbsup: :oldthumbsup:)
You're just reading what you want into the Millennium and then asserting that there is a weird half-resurrection of only a small number of martyred Christians who 'enjoy' a half-heaven. Can't you see how that utterly warps the thrust of the rest of the New Testament that repeatedly shows us ALL are raised TOGETHER when JESUS RETURNS and are JUDGED and that this results in a PERMANENT change in the order of things - the New Heavens and New Earth? Go see Spiritual Jew's list of verses.

Your objection to the fact of Luke 13:32-33 being prophesies for two separate times, is overruled by how the third 'day' in verse 32, He is perfected, or achieves his goal and in verse 33, it is; meet My death. 2 quite different outcomes.
You keep trying to divorce Luke 13:32 from 33, but there is no change in subject or difference there. One just flows into the other. I've shown you that even Weisbe's futurist commentary says this is about Jesus ministry plans with a view to their completion in the cross. Only the older versions like King James render the phrase as "the third day I shall be perfected" - the rest render it as "reach my goal". Ellicot's commentary renders the Greek this way: "“Then I am brought to the end; then I reach the goal of this human life of Mine.” MacLaren's commentary (same link) says "The cleansing of the Temple, at the very outset of His course, was vindicated by Him by the profound words, ‘Destroy this Temple, and in three days I will raise it up.’ And "For Him to ‘perish’ was to ‘be perfected.’" Matthew Henry says "that I must die very shortly; when I die, I shall be perfected," Barnes says "The third day - After a little time. Perhaps, however, he meant "literally" that he would depart on that day for Jerusalem; that for two or three days more he would remain in the villages of Galilee, and then go on his way to Jerusalem." Jaimeson-Fausset-Brown says "I shall be perfected—I finish my course, I attain completion." Geneva Study Bible says "That is, when the sacrifice for sin is finished." Vincent's Word studies says "The present tense: "the present of the certain future" (Meyer). The meaning is, I come to an end: I have done. Expositors differ greatly. Some interpret, "I end my career of healing," etc.; others, my life." What do they all have in common? It's about Jesus ministry and gospel death. What are ALL the commentaries at this link missing? Anything to do with a future eschatology or end-times-table. You seem to be the only one pushing this end-times-table reading of Luke 13.
Luke 13:32 Commentaries: And He said to them, "Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'

There already IS a Millennium and we've been in this 'gazillion years' (Jewish number symbolism of 1000 as a really long time or really big number) for about 2000 years - Jesus reigns over this fallen world, the martyrs are safe with him (somehow), and Judgement Day is coming. That could be in 5 seconds or 50,000 years - we just don't know how long the Lord's patience will last.

The one thing I DO know is your timetable is whacky and wrong and a terrible time-wasting obsession that is distracting a bunch of people here. Seriously, why not just play a nice computer game like Civilisation 6 instead of pretending to be superior to Theologians who have REALLY studied the bible? (Again, I'm not claiming to be one of them - they're my friends.)
 
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The one thing I DO know is your timetable is whacky and wrong and a terrible time-wasting obsession that is distracting a bunch of people here. Seriously, why not just play a nice computer game like Civilisation 6 instead of pretending to be superior to Theologians who have REALLY studied the bible? (Again, I'm not claiming to be one of them - they're my friends.)
You think telling Christians to be carnally minded, makes your post credible? Why post yourself if such postings are just distractions, instead of moving the conversation along? Are there rules in heaven and earth forcing people to keep posting here? There are rules about having carnal minds and only pleasing one's personal interest.
 
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You think telling Christians to be carnally minded, makes your post credible? Why post yourself if such postings are just distractions, instead of moving the conversation along? Are there rules in heaven and earth forcing people to keep posting here? There are rules about having carnal minds and only pleasing one's personal interest.
Isn't that what he's doing when not one of the commentaries I linked to on Bible Hub support Keras's elusive end times tables in Luke 13 which ALL commentaries agreed were about Jesus ministry plans being fulfilled in his death? It's like I tell Mormons - if Joseph Smith had been alive today, he would probably have played D&D as a teenager rather than inventing a new religion.

All I'm saying is some people are so precious about their precious and unique end-times-table they almost take it as seriously as some people take their Civ 6! :oldthumbsup:

Also, I think your theology of rest needs a little work. "Carnally minded" indeed! There are different hobbies and different ways we rest. Some people love to play or watch sports, some people would rather stick a needle in their eye than watch sports and are more sympathetic to time in nature, time with family, or reading a good book.
 
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At His appearing the earth will melt. 2 Peter 3:10
2 Peter 3:7 & 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief. On that Day, the sky will roll up with a great sound, mans works on earth will be burned up and the godless peoples will be destroyed.
Paralleled by Isaiah 13:9, Isaiah 34:4, Romans 1:18, Revelation 6:12-17, +
This prophecy is about the terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, an unexpected disaster, when the Lord will take action against the attackers of Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12

The New heavens and earth do not come until after the Millennium. Revelation 21:1-7
 
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It absolutely does happen at the return, as that is what John 5:28 says!

John 5:28 "28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."

Note: the good rise to LIVE - not to live a bit and then die again. The results here are final and permanent.
This prophecy absolutely does not happen at the Return.
John 5:28-29 never mentions the Return. You have a bad habit of adding to scripture to fit with what you think it should mean.

When Jesus Returns, He judges the nations, Matthew 25:31-33
AFTER the next 1000 years, THEN God will Judge everyone who has ever lived, the righteous are given immortality and the wicked; the Lake of Fire.
Revelation 20:11-15 is clear, only then are all the dead raised.
Expositors differ greatly. Some interpret, "I end my career of healing," etc.; others, my life." What do they all have in common? It's about Jesus ministry and gospel death. What are ALL the commentaries at this link missing? Anything to do with a future eschatology or end-times-table.
I have already said why I reject the so called expositors. I take note and believe what Jesus said: Father, You have hidden Your secrets from the wise and revealed them to the simple. Simple', meaning: those uneducated and those who accept the Bible as it is written.
Also reiterated in 1 Corinthians 1:19-20, 1 Corinthians 3:18-20

I have tried to engage many Pastors and qualified expositors, incl a couple of Doctors of Divinity. They all refuse to even look at Bible prophecy, let alone have any meaningful discussion on that subject. Interaction with you, a 'Sydney Anglican, is a rare thing and I do appreciate your persistence here.
The one thing I DO know is your timetable is whacky and wrong and a terrible time-wasting obsession that is distracting a bunch of people here.
Because I challenge your beliefs, then I am automatically wrong?

Yes; over 5 thousand people have viewed this thread. I pray they will seriously consider the issues discussed here, with an open mind to receive the real truths of Bible prophecy.
 
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Isn't that what he's doing when not one of the commentaries I linked to on Bible Hub support Keras's elusive end times tables in Luke 13 which ALL commentaries agreed were about Jesus ministry plans being fulfilled in his death? It's like I tell Mormons - if Joseph Smith had been alive today, he would probably have played D&D as a teenager rather than inventing a new religion.

All I'm saying is some people are so precious about their precious and unique end-times-table they almost take it as seriously as some people take their Civ 6! :oldthumbsup:

Also, I think your theology of rest needs a little work. "Carnally minded" indeed! There are different hobbies and different ways we rest. Some people love to play or watch sports, some people would rather stick a needle in their eye than watch sports and are more sympathetic to time in nature, time with family, or reading a good book.
I go to work to rest.
 
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2 Peter 3:7 & 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief. On that Day, the sky will roll up with a great sound, mans works on earth will be burned up and the godless peoples will be destroyed.
Paralleled by Isaiah 13:9, Isaiah 34:4, Romans 1:18, Revelation 6:12-17, +
This prophecy is about the terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, an unexpected disaster, when the Lord will take action against the attackers of Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12

The New heavens and earth do not come until after the Millennium. Revelation 21:1-7
No. It's. Not.
It's about the Return of the Lord - Judgement Day - the GWT! (And the many other sections of Revelation that refer to it repeatedly.)
So, 2 Peter 3 is one of the many chapters that you pretend doesn't say what it actually says - and then fit it into your sadly literalistic timetable for Revelation. That's sad. No wonder you protest about studying theology! (While inventing all your own and repeating it a thousand times a week. See what I did there with 1000? :oldthumbsup: I actually meant a gazillion! :oldthumbsup:)

Does 2 Peter 3 leave any room for anything in this timeline to continue happening as Keras suggests?

2 Peter 3
8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.​

It just amazes me how far off target you really are! ALL the commentaries at Biblehub read that as the THE ONE AND ONLY JUDGEMENT DAY - the very END OF THE WORLD!

Benson Commentary
2 Peter 3:10. But — Notwithstanding the long-suffering of God; the day of the Lord — The day of the consummation of all things, and of final judgment; will come, and that as a thief in the night —
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges
10. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night …] The confidence of the Apostle that this will be the end of the history of the human race is not shaken by the seeming “slackness” in its approach. Either reproducing the thought which he had heard from his Master’s lips (Matthew 24:43), or echoing the very words of St Paul (1 Thessalonians 5:2), he declares that it will come, and will come suddenly, when men are not looking for it.
2 Peter 3:10 Commentaries: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

There was one millennial bit of commentary but it seems to ignore your associating this day with Revelation 6 and just calls the whole Millennial advent and GWT judgement as the one thing, which does not read true to the 2 Peter 3 verses at all! As I have said many times, a 1000 year reign of Jesus on earth would kind of give away what was coming next!

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
10. The certainty, suddenness, and concomitant effects, of the coming of the day of the Lord. Faber argues from this that the millennium, &c., must precede Christ's literal coming, not follow it. But "the day of the Lord" comprehends the whole series of events, beginning with the pre-millennial advent, and ending with the destruction of the wicked, and final conflagration, and general judgment (which last intervenes between the conflagration and the renovation of the earth).
2 Peter 3:10 Commentaries: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.


You might enjoy the Britannica on a history of eschatology which shows 'counting down' from the day of creation is as old as the church - and has that long a history of being wrong as well. It's interesting that apocalyptic millenarians have also been associated with extremists that react to the governments of their day (and were very much against the Roman empire.) Right from the start, millenarians have been more associated with the likes of Jonestown or the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas. Anti-government, paranoid, and so revved up about the imminence of their apocalyptic fantasies they forget to do the good works they're meant to do! That's millenarians for you.
Eschatology - Later progressive millennialism

However, us amils? Could be in 5 seconds, or 50,000 years. We don't know. So just trust the Lord and get on with it.
 
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your sadly literalistic timetable for Revelation.
Better than having a spiritualized view of Revelation, that leaves people clueless about God's plans for our future.
You might enjoy the Britannica on a history of eschatology which shows 'counting down' from the day of creation is as old as the church - and has that long a history of being wrong as well.
I have read Encyclopedia Britannica as far as F. Must get back to it some day. Probably have some time during the Millennium.

Bishop Ussher, circa 18th century, did the count back and says Adam was created in 4004 BC. The calculation, using 45 Bible verses that I did back from the known date of the Babylonian conquest of Judah in 586 BC, is 3970 BC
That date is correct, as it gives exact 2000 year periods, Adam to Abraham, Abraham to Jesus and now Jesus until His Return; soon to be completed.
Then will come the final 1000 year of the benevolent rule of King Jesus, making exactly 7000 years of Gods Plan for mankind on this earth.

On what grounds do you reject this?
 
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2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just; that the Lord should balance the account by sending judgement to those who afflict you, to give those who love and serve Him relief, when Jesus comes to punish the ungodly, with His mighty host in blazing fire. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, but on that great Day His glory will be revealed to all true believers. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 18:7-15

This passage of Scripture is not describing the Glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. It is an event before then –‘ when He comes in blazing fire and reveals His glory among His own’. It does not fit how He destroys the armies that are attacking Jerusalem at His Return, then how the whole world will see Him.

2 Peter 3:7 & 10 The Day of the Lord will come unexpectedly. The heavens will disappear with a roar and flaming fire will bring all the earth to judgement. Malachi 4:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of a fierce fire which will consume God’s enemies. Zephaniah 1:14-18

Psalms 110:5-6 The Lord at Your right hand – He crushes kings on the Day of His wrath. In majesty He judges the nations, causing destruction throughout the world. Ps.97:2

Revelation 14:14-20 On a white cloud, I saw a figure like a man, wearing a gold crown and holding a sharp sickle. Put in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come to harvest the earth. Then the angel that has authority over fire, called to Him - ‘Swing Your sickle now, for the earth’s grapes are ripe and ready for harvest. So the grapes were gathered and thrown into the great winepress of the Lord’s wrath. The blood flowed from it for 200 miles. Isaiah 63:1-6, Zephaniah 1:17

Jeremiah 51:5-6 Israel and Judah are not left widowed by their God, by the Lord. But their Land is full of guilt, condemned by the Holy One of Israel. Flee out of Babylon, [Babylon: a metaphor for any godless nation] each person for himself or you will perish for her sins. For now comes the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, He is paying her full recompense. Ezekiel 22:1-7, Revelation 18:4-8

Isaiah 17:1-10 Damascus will cease to be a city, just a heap of ruins forever desolate. On that Day, Jacobs strength will fade away, as when a reaper gathers the grain or as an olive tree is stripped at harvest and left with just a few berries. On that Day all will look to their Maker, all idols and the works of their hands are as rubbish. On that Day, your cities will be deserted and abandoned, because you have forgotten the Lord, your strength and protector. Jeremiah 9:12-13, Isaiah 6:11-12

Isaiah 17:12-14 Listen! It is the thunder of vast forces, like the roaring of mighty waters. Nations flee, driven before the storm like thistledown. At evening, all is terror, by morning all is gone. Such is the fate of those who conspire to attack us. Psalms 83, Isaiah 66:15-16
Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.

These Bible verses describe the next prophesied event – how God sends His right hand man, Jesus, to ‘ harvest the world of His enemies, those who conspire to attack His people’ This is also the Sixth Seal punishment of the ungodly peoples, reiterated and described in over 100 Bible prophecies. This worldwide judgement of fire accurately fits how the earth would be affected by an unprecedented Coronal Mass Ejection. But as Isaiah and many other prophets say, His righteous people will be protected.
Why would any unbeliever survive that? They would not. Believers, on the other hand, will all be changed and have immortal bodies at that point (1 Cor 15:50-54). Death will be swallowed up in victory and God will wipe the tears from all of our faces (1 Cor 15:54, Rev 21:4 - per Isaiah 25:8) and the new heavens and new earth will be ushered in when He returns. Scripture simply does not allow for any mortal survivors once the wrath of the Lamb comes down upon the world.

The fact that you can't even recognize that 2 Peter 3:3-13 will happen at His return ("His coming" - 2 Peter 3:4) shows your lack of discernment. You make something simple very convoluted by adding in unrelated passages that contradict what Jesus Himself, Paul, Peter and John taught about His return.

Also, Jesus Himself indicated that the judgment of all people will occur at the end of the age (Matt 13:36-43, Matt 13:47-50, Matt 25:31-46) which is when He will return (Matt 24:3). Jesus indicated that it will be "the kingdom of their Father" at the end of the age (Matt 13:43). Paul taught the same thing by indicating in 1 Cor 15:22-28 that the end will come when He comes. That is when He will hand the kingdom over to the Father. Not 1000+ years later.
 
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When Jesus Returns, He judges the nations, Matthew 25:31-33
Can you please elaborate on your understanding of Matthew 25:31-46?

How exactly do entire nations feed the hungry, give something to drink to the thirsty and visit those in prison, etc.?

How exactly can entire nations inherit "eternal life" (Matt 25:46) in the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world (Matt 25:34)?

How exactly can entire nations be sentenced to "eternal punishment" (Matt 25:46) in "everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matt 25:41)?
 
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They are all prophesies that refer to the Great White throne Judgment, which will take place after the Millennium. Revelation 20:11-15
NOT before!
Jesus Himself indicated that it will occur when He comes with His angels (Matthew 25:31-46). Your lack of being able to recognize that Matthew 25:31-46 is speaking of the same judgment as Revelation 20:11-15 is your downfall.

There is only one day of judgment and the entire world (all people everywhere, everyone) will be judged on that day.

Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

He has set one future day to judge the world. Each person will give an account of themselves on that day (Matthew 12:36, Romans 14:10-12, 2 Cor 5:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Rev 20:11-15).
 
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Jesus Himself indicated that it will occur when He comes with His angels (Matthew 25:31-46). Your lack of being able to recognize that Matthew 25:31-46 is speaking of the same judgment as Revelation 20:11-15 is your downfall.

There is only one day of judgment and the entire world (all people everywhere, everyone) will be judged on that day.

Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”
Amen to that.
 
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