Documents Show Hunter Biden Requesting $10 Mill. From Chinese On Behalf Of ‘Entire Biden Fami

JohnDB said:

I don't do investigation into anything unless it's interesting...

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Your participation in this thread seems to indicate otherwise.

Speedwell said:

Assuming you are talking about Hunter Biden, he was a sailor, not a soldier, and he was well qualified for the job at Burisma.

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Dick Cheney is qualified...it is his normal job to deal in oil and oil deals.
Hunter has no degrees or educational background or experience that qualifies him for the job or to even sit at that table.

hedrick said:

Just to be clear, it wasn't actually a dishonorable discharge.

"Contrary to Trump’s claim, Hunter Biden’s discharge was administrative, which is standard procedure for failed drug tests, rather than dishonorable ( here, here)."

Fact check: Hunter Biden's military discharge was administrative, not dishonorable

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OK...but if he was one of us regular schmucks it woulda been.

JohnDB said:

OK...but if he was one of us regular schmucks it woulda been.

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You seem certain of that.

Fox News is back to being a reputable source for conservatives? I'll have to make a note of it. Hard to keep track of these days.



I suspect, however, that it's only a legitimate source until it's critical of Trump, then it's immediately discarded as part of the conspiracy.

TLK Valentine said:

You seem certain of that.

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It's the exact same reason my brother got out...

JohnDB said:

OK...but if he was one of us regular schmucks it woulda been.

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Not if, as the fact-check claims, it was normal procedure.

grasping the after wind said:

No. Of course not but for some unknown reason some people have got it in their head that there is something strange about a person with nothing tangible to offer who seems to have been showered with financial resources and special privileges by foreign interests while seemingly doing nothing in return. Who could possibly think that it had anything to do with his family ties?

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“Showered with financial resources and special privileges”?

How so? The article states no money changed hands.

JohnDB said:

It's the exact same reason my brother got out...

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Then you should be familiar with Administrative Discharge.

Here's a description of the usual procedure: What happens if you fail a military drug test? - Crisp and Associates

hedrick said:

Not if, as the fact-check claims, it was normal procedure.

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Not really.
My brother got the exact same discharge from the military...he too had failed drug tests (THC +)
It's labeled as administrative instead of dishonorable...but with the surrounding circumstances it's not a positive.

It's meant to keep it from being a lifetime punishment that a dishonorable discharge can inflict on people. Many employers will not hire anyone who got a dishonorable discharge. Most job applications require listing military service and discharge. Something to do with insurance...I never got a straight answer from the higher ups on it.

I don't know a lot about it except for what my brother said...he wanted out anyway. Wife was preggers and he was wanting to be out towards the end of his service.

JohnDB said:

Dick Cheney is qualified...it is his normal job to deal in oil and oil deals.
Hunter has no degrees or educational background or experience that qualifies him for the job or to even sit at that table.

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At the time he took the job at Burisma, Hunter Biden was an experienced international finance executive in his forties with a prestigious law degree and a net worth of three million dollars. He was hired as what is known as an "outside director," that is, a director put on the board for some special expertise who is not expected to take part in the day-to-day operation of the business. In Biden's case he was expected to help them with overseas financial deals, a field in which he was a recognized expert. No doubt he was paid some--but not much--over the going rate for that kind of work and it is possible that he traded on his father's name for it, but more likely he traded on his reputation for being willing to sail a little too close to the wind in his financial dealings.

There is plenty to bad-mouth Hunter Biden about; you don't have to make up lies like you have been doing, it just makes you look ignorant of the very thing you are trying to criticize.

JohnDB said:

Dick Cheney is qualified...it is his normal job to deal in oil and oil deals.
Hunter has no degrees or educational background or experience that qualifies him for the job or to even sit at that table.

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According to whom? Last I heard he was a lawyer. What job was he hired for that a law degree was not relevant?

Speedwell said:

in Biden's case he was expected to help them with overseas financial deals, a field that he was a recognized expert in.

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Specifically, deals in the US. His political connections would certainly have been a plus. Not illegal. For this job you'd really want someone with good contacts. Ethical? I'm not so sure.

hedrick said:

Specifically, deals in the US. His political connections would certainly have been a plus. Not illegal. For this job you'd really want someone with good contacts. Ethical? I'm not so sure.

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Neither am I. But he was not the gormless, inexperienced boy given the job as a sinecure that the Right likes to make out.

hedrick said:

I agree. But it would be better if we looked across the political spectrum at things like this, and changed the legal standards. If it's just Biden that is embarrassed, it's just mud-slinging, and it's not going to lead to any change.

Here's an interesting article by Peter Schweizer: Opinion | What Hunter Biden Did Was Legal — And That’s the Problem (Published 2019). It points out that the law lets relatives take advantage of their position legally, and this is done widely, not just by the Bidens, but the McConnells, and many others. In fact the McConnell situation looks more serious than the Biden one.

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While I agree with you morally, the problem is that in practice it’s an incredibly difficult thing to actually criminalize or even prohibit.

Adult children are not legally the responsibility of their parents, and vice versa. So what exactly do you prohibit? People usually know perfectly well who a child’s famous parents are and this can immediately be a selling point without any kind of actual action or promise on the child’s part. So do we prohibit children with famous parents from having successful careers were influence could even be implied? I don’t see how you really can regulate it beyond how it’s already regulated.

hedrick said:

Specifically, deals in the US. His political connections would certainly have been a plus. Not illegal. For this job you'd really want someone with good contacts. Ethical? I'm not so sure.

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The whole issue surrounding this is Joe Biden's testimony before congress on the matter...he was asked and he answered that he didn't know anything about Hunter's job.

But pictures of golfing with Hunter's business buddies sure does seem to fly in the face of his testimony.

Also Hunter's laptops and emails and the multiple cell phones texts from the other guy are all saying things that directly oppose Joe Biden's testimony.

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That it has happened isn't so much in question...Hunter was influence peddling.
It's obvious. The money trail is the thing that's going to put nails in coffins.

It's whether Hunter was acting in an agency fashion for his father is the thing. Did Joe get benefits from the money?

Jimmy D said:

“Showered with financial resources and special privileges”?

How so? The article states no money changed hands.

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On this one particular occasion the transfer was never completed. Are you really unfamiliar with all the other financial resources and special privilege's that Hunter Biden has accumulated over the years form multiple foreign interests ? Check out the linked story in that article entitled
HUNTER BIDEN EMAIL SHOWS $400G IN UNREPORTED INCOME FROM BURISMA, STATES HE NEEDS TO 'AMEND' HIS TAX RETURNS

JohnDB said:

But pictures of golfing with Hunter's business buddies sure does seem to fly in the face of his testimony.

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How so?

Also Hunter's laptops and emails and the multiple cell phones texts from the other guy are all saying things that directly oppose Joe Biden's testimony.

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What laptop? What emails? What texts? Nothing you're talking about has been remotely confirmed as real.

NxNW said:

How so?

What laptop? What emails? What texts? Nothing you're talking about has been remotely confirmed as real.

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Have you been living in a cave without internet?