I am not saying Jesus sinned. I am saying that according to John 5 he broke the Sabbath.
unsaved Jews argued that the act of healing a man on the Sabbath could be imagined as breaking God's Law -- Jesus argues that this is flawed reasoning (Luke 13:10-17).
Who shall we agree with? Some say the Jews.... some say Jesus
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John does not say He broke the Sabbath - according to John the Jews accused Christ of breaking the Law by healing someone on Sabbath John 5:16.. (context matters) .. Jesus had repeatedly pointed out that healing on the Sabbath was not breaking the Law even by their own standards.
These key details get lost in a half-vs-snip point. Context matters when it comes to exegesis.
John says - "
sin IS transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4. That is not "the jews" that is John via the Holy Spirit.
and as you have said --
I am not saying Jesus sinned
John says that even after their false accusation in John 5:18 about Sabbath breaking -- Jesus challenged them to show that He had broken the Law -
John 8:46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?
These key details can get lost in a half-vs-snip view of the subject.
Context matters when it comes to exegesis.
Albert Barnes
John 5:18 “Had
broken the Sabbath” -
They supposed he had broken it.
Adam Clarke
John 5:18 “… They had now found out two pretenses to take away his life: one was that he had broken the Sabbath - ελυε, dissolved,
as they pretended, the obligation of keeping it holy. The other was that he was guilty of blasphemy, in making himself equal to God: for both which crimes, a man, according to the law, must suffer death. See
Numbers 15:32;
Leviticus 24:11,
Leviticus 24:14,
Leviticus 24:16.
John Gill:
5:16 “and sought to slay him; either in a violent way, by setting the zealots, a sort of ruffians under the pretence of religion, upon him; or rather in a judicial way, summoning him before the sanhedrim, in order to condemn him to death for the breach of the Sabbath, which by the law of Moses was punishable with death: “
because he had done these things on the Sabbath day;
because he had cured the man of his disease, under which he had laboured eight and thirty years, and had ordered him to take up his bed, and walk home with it on his back on the sabbath day. This drew upon him their resentment to such a degree, that they not only persecuted him with their tongues, but sought to take away his life. Nothing would satisfy them but his blood.
5:18 Verse 18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him,.... They were the more desirous to take away his life, and were more bent and resolute upon it, and studied all ways and means how to bring it about;
because he had not only
broken the Sabbath; as they imagined; for he had not really broken it: and if they had known what that means, that God will have mercy, and not sacrifice, they would have been convinced that he had not broke it by this act of mercy to a poor distressed object:
===other examples
The Bible states parable as matter of fact – leaving the reader to understand the details.
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Judges 9:8 (KJV) -- 8
The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive tree, Reign thou over us.
The bible does not call it a parable - but we know that trees don't do that sort of thing
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1 Sam 28:
8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said,
I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.
15 And
Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” Saul replied, “I am very distressed, for the Philistines are waging war against me, and God has abandoned me and no longer answers me, either through prophets or in dreams; therefore I have called you, so that you may let me know what I should do.”
God does not give demons possession of the souls/spirits of departed saints , to "bring them up" at will.
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John 5
2 Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep
Gate a pool, which is called in Hebrew, Bethesda, having five porches. 3 In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water.
4 For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had.
Which is not at all the way God sends healing in OT or NT – it was a belief – being reported in the text.. .
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Jesus condemned the flawed logic that claims that healing on the Sabbath is Sabbath breaking --
Luke 13:10-17
10 Now
Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues
on the Sabbath. 11 And there was a woman who for eighteen years had had a sickness caused by a spirit; and she was bent over double, and could not straighten up at all. 12 When Jesus saw her, He called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your sickness.” 13 And He laid His hands on her; and immediately she stood up straight again, and
began glorifying God. 14 But the synagogue leader, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath,
began saying to the crowd in response, “There are
six days during which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.” 15 But the Lord answered him and said, “You hypocrites, does each of you on the Sabbath not untie his ox or donkey from the stall and lead it away to water
it? 16 And this woman, a daughter of Abraham as she is, whom Satan has bound for eighteen long years,
should she not have been released from this restraint on the Sabbath day?” 17 And as He said this,
all His opponents were being humiliated; and the entire crowd was rejoicing over all the glorious things being done by Him.