Third Temple question

Mike Tang said:

Hi,
Does anyone know if bible prophecy says that a third temple will be built and if so, will it be built by the "Antichrist" in End Times?

Or is this just a common fallacy?

Thank you for any info!

Appreciate it

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If you want to nit pick, Josephus says Herod removed Zerubbabel's temple down to the foundation and built a new one. It looks to me that Herod's temple was technically the 3rd temple.

Ant.15.11.3 "So Herod took away the old foundations, and laid others, and erected the temple upon them,"

Hi oh yes the 3rd temple is clearly coming in prophecy and if you read the scriptures and note the before and after conditions that are coming there is a line at the 2nd coming of Jesus that shows the literal interpretation of the majority of scripture is cohesive and complimentary and tells the exact same story with a future temple set to be the stage for the abomination of desolation which is the sign to Israel to flee and precede the beast getting control over every tribe tongue kindred and nation for 42 months.
In Hosea 3 we see this 4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred pillar, without ephod or teraphim. 5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They shall fear the LORD and His goodness in the latter days. Now when Jesus was on earth Israel did have the temple up and running so this makes no sense. Now it has been many days with a sacrifice so if you go many days without it at the end of many days you have it again. Hosea also has already laid out a related event in chapter 1.
8 Now when she had weaned Lo-Ruhamah, she conceived and bore a son. 9 Then God said:
“Call his name Lo-Ammi,[fn]
For you are not My people,
And I will not be your God.
“Yet the number of the children of Israel
Shall be as the sand of the sea,
Which cannot be measured or numbered.
And it shall come to pass
In the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’[fn]
There it shall be said to them,
‘You are sons of the living God.’
11 Then the children of Judah and the children of Israel
Shall be gathered together,
And appoint for themselves one head;
And they shall come up out of the land,
For great will be the day of Jezreel!

Now Jezreel is the opposite end of the valley of Meggido where Armageddon will take place. Remember Jesus mission is more than just the cross and indeed Luke 1 details some of these expectations.

29 But when she saw him,[fn] she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. 30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”

67 Now his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit, and prophesied, saying:
68 “Blessed is the Lord God of Israel,
For He has visited and redeemed His people,
69 And has raised up a horn of salvation for us
In the house of His servant David,
70 As He spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets,
Who have been since the world began,
71 That we should be saved from our enemies
And from the hand of all who hate us,
72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers
And to remember His holy covenant,
73 The oath which He swore to our father Abraham:
74 To grant us that we,
Being delivered from the hand of our enemies,
Might serve Him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before Him all the days of our life.

Now if you search when the kingdom comes it is clear the tribulation and all precede it and this very deliverance for Israel does indeed take place and Jesus in the latter days will take the throne of David. For fun read Dan 2, 7, Zech 14

Fullness of the Gentiles said:

Which is a lie. The prophetic scriptures do not clearly predict anything you say about the third temple. What you say about the third temple is your opinion based on your interpretation of the prophetic scriptures.

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That you do not address any of the many scriptures that do prove there will be a Temple in Jerusalem during the end times, shows all you have is opinion and false beliefs.

BABerean2 said:

There is just one thing you left out of this post.
That is the blood sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ at Calvary.

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This thread is about a new Temple.
Jesus did make the final sacrifice for our sins, but Bible Prophecy plainly states that there will again be offerings and purification in a new Temple. Zechariah 14:20-21

Lost4words said:

How dare you swear at me! RrrrrrrrrrrrWOOF!

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When people have nothing to contribute, they should keep quiet.

keras said:

Jesus did make the final sacrifice for our sins, but Bible Prophecy plainly states that there will again be offerings and purification in a new Temple. Zechariah 14:20-21

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Heb 10:16 "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND IN THEIR MINDS I WILL WRITE THEM,"
Heb 10:17 then He adds, "THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE."
Heb 10:18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.


Based on 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Peter 3:10-13, this planet is going to burn at His return.


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keras said:

When people have nothing to contribute, they should keep quiet.

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One could say the same about those that 'think' they are contributing when in fact, they are not! They are just spouting utter fantasies.

keras said:

That you do not address any of the many scriptures that do prove there will be a Temple in Jerusalem during the end times, shows all you have is opinion and false beliefs.

This thread is about a new Temple.
Jesus did make the final sacrifice for our sins, but Bible Prophecy plainly states that there will again be offerings and purification in a new Temple. Zechariah 14:20-21

When people have nothing to contribute, they should keep quiet.

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keras,

What is the purpose of the 3rd Temple? What goes on 'in' the Temple?

Lost4words said:

One could say the same about those that 'think' they are contributing when in fact, they are not! They are just spouting utter fantasies.

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When people make unsupported accusations, they should be.....
No; God is the Judge, He will repay.

JM said:

keras,

What is the purpose of the 3rd Temple? What goes on 'in' the Temple?

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What goes on in your Church? Praise and worship, of course.
It will be the same in the new Temple, but as Ezekiel 40 to 46 makes clear, the New Temple will be the focal point for His faithful people.

keras said:

When people make unsupported accusations, they should be.....
No; God is the Judge, He will repay.

What goes on in your Church? Praise and worship, of course.
It will be the same in the new Temple, but as Ezekiel 40 to 46 makes clear, the New Temple will be the focal point for His faithful people.

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God is the judge, i agree.

I dont agree with your interpretation of 'end times' scripture thats all. I read it differently. I take the partial preterist view.

Mike Tang said:

Hi,
Does anyone know if bible prophecy says that a third temple will be built and if so, will it be built by the "Antichrist" in End Times?

Or is this just a common fallacy?

Thank you for any info!

Appreciate it

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Yes, the Jews will build another temple for the very end of this world. That specifically is what the 2 Thessalonians 2:4 Scripture is showing, although men's doctrines try to get us to believe Paul was speaking of the spiritual temple idea, which is ludicrous to think that the Antichrist could corrupt the True Spiritual Temple of Christ Jesus.

Lot of false prophets out there in today's pulpits. Best watch out and stay in God's Word.

The "abomination of desolation" prophecy from the Book of Daniel specifically requires... a standing Jewish temple in Jerusalem. That abomination is about an idol abomination setup in the temple in false worship. Antiochus IV in 170 B.C. almost fulfilled the Daniel 11 Scripture about that as the "vile person". Antiochus took Jerusalem with an army, went inside the 2nd temple and sacrificed swine upon the altar, then spread its broth around inside the temple, and then setup an altar with an idol to Zeus, demanding all to bow in worship.

But Jesus foretold of the real... "abomination of desolation" from the Book of Daniel about 200 years after... Antiochus had been dead. That means that event is for the future. It will involve the coming Antichrist to Jerusalem playing Christ. The Rev.13 "image of the beast" is pointing to that future abomination being setup.

keras said:

When people make unsupported accusations, they should be.....
No; God is the Judge, He will repay.

What goes on in your Church? Praise and worship, of course.
It will be the same in the new Temple, but as Ezekiel 40 to 46 makes clear, the New Temple will be the focal point for His faithful people.

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You quoted Ezekiel. Do you realize the Temple in Ezekiel mentions animal sacrifices for sin?

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. Hebrews 10

Christ is the end of the animal sacrifices that were previously offered. I have no desire to return to types and shadows that pointed typological.

Yours in the Lord,

jm

JM said:

You quoted Ezekiel. Do you realize the Temple in Ezekiel mentions animal sacrifices for sin?

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Ezekiel 43:18-27 says it is for purification and offerings.
Read Isaiah 56:1-8 and Ezekiel 20:40-41

Remember God's ways are not our ways, He did require sacrifices before and He will do so again.

keras said:

Ezekiel 43:18-27 says it is for purification and offerings.
Read Isaiah 56:1-8 and Ezekiel 20:40-41

Remember God's ways are not our ways, He did require sacrifices before and He will do so again.

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Purification from what? What offering can take the place of the very real reality of Christ's offering?

JM your question is the bottom line in my view. Why would God go back to a faulty system, when Jesus clearly said it is finished and Hebrews clearly says there is no longer any sacrifice for sins. This sacrificial system was a type pointing to a reality which is Christ. Why would we need a type, when the real thing will be there? Just saying " Gods ways are not our ways", and completely disregarding a biblically plausible explanation makes me scratch my head. "

Anran33 said:

JM your question is the bottom line in my view. Why would God go back to a faulty system, when Jesus clearly said it is finished and Hebrews clearly says there is no longer any sacrifice for sins. This sacrificial system was a type pointing to a reality which is Christ. Why would we need a type, when the real thing will be there? Just saying " Gods ways are not our ways", and completely disregarding a biblically plausible explanation makes me scratch my head. "

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Agreed. Why return to types and shadows? Christian Zion-ism is a sin. Every person regardless of their ethnicity needs Jesus Christ and the fullness of the faith.

JM said:

Purification from what? What offering can take the place of the very real reality of Christ's offering?

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Ask God. I just quote what He has told the Prophets.
That you don't even properly study or address prophesies like Ezekiel 20:40-41, Isaiah 56:1-8, Jeremiah 17:26, is an indictment against you.

keras said:

Ask God. I just quote what He has told the Prophets.
That you don't even properly study or address prophesies like Ezekiel 20:40-41, Isaiah 56:1-8, Jeremiah 17:26, is an indictment against you.

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I quoted scripture as well keras and you need to know Christ is enough, no need for a physical Temple or animal sacrifices. We are saved by Christ alone through faith.

JM said:

I quoted scripture as well keras and you need to know Christ is enough, no need for a physical Temple or animal sacrifices. We are saved by Christ alone through faith.

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During this Church age, we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God. 2 Corinthians 6:16 tells us this.
But that truth does not preclude a new Temple building in Jerusalem. There is many scriptures that prove this and after Jesus Returns, the nations will come to it, to bring offerings to God. Zechariah 14:16-21

keras said:

During this Church age, we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God. 2 Corinthians 6:16 tells us this.
But that truth does not preclude a new Temple building in Jerusalem. There is many scriptures that prove this and after Jesus Returns, the nations will come to it, to bring offerings to God. Zechariah 14:16-21

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Dispensationalism is a man made, man centred hermeneutic. It's not drawn from scripture but imposed upon scripture. So, I'll need you to show me "the church age" in scripture. I'll need a direct, historically accurate and grammatically correct explanation please.

JM said:

Dispensationalism is a man made, man centred hermeneutic. It's not drawn from scripture but imposed upon scripture. So, I'll need you to show me "the church age" in scripture. I'll need a direct, historically accurate and grammatically correct explanation please.

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Here is a Biblical and historically accurate timeline of God's Plan for mankind:
Just leave my Grandmar out of it!
7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:

Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE subtracted back from 586 BCE, from:

Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10 Our year 2314.5 BCE

Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4

Total years so far = 2000


Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8

Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE.

[Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.]

1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:33 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:36 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18-20 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year of 586 BCE.

Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5

586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1 Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement.

3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years from Adam to Jesus.


Jan 2019 CE - 29.5 CE = 1989.5 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry.

1989.5 + 4000 = 5989.5 years, is where we are now. 5989.5 + 10.5 = 6000 years

2019 CE + 10.5 = 2029.5 CE Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age.

4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus.

7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind.

Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5

keras said:

Here is a Biblical and historically accurate timeline of God's Plan for mankind:
Just leave my Grandmar out of it!
7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:

Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE subtracted back from 586 BCE, from:

Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10 Our year 2314.5 BCE

Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4

Total years so far = 2000


Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8

Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE.

[Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.]

1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:33 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:36 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18-20 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year of 586 BCE.

Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5

586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1 Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement.

3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years from Adam to Jesus.


Jan 2019 CE - 29.5 CE = 1989.5 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry.

1989.5 + 4000 = 5989.5 years, is where we are now. 5989.5 + 10.5 = 6000 years

2019 CE + 10.5 = 2029.5 CE Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age.

4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus.

7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind.

Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5

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A couple of links and resources contra Dispensationalism:

Dispensationalism: an Overview and Critique, A Peculiar Hermeneutic With Errors = An excellent, but short, overview by Pastor Al Martin. I like how Martin compares differing schools of Dispensationalism to different flavours of mustard carefully avoiding the term ‘hyper.’

Covenant Theology vs. Dispensationalism = More specifically, Particular Baptist CT as expressed in the second London Baptist Confession of 1689. I’ve watched this video a few times and recommend it.

A Study of Dispensationalism by A. W. Pink = I had my doubts about Dispensationalism long before I gave up the system for good and Pink’s work was helpful in pointing out some of the errors of this hermeneutic.

Francisco Ribera (one / two) = Until the 1800’s Protestantism identified the pope or the office of the pope of Rome as antichrist. Futurism aka Dispensationalism as taught by keras was a suggested way to remove suspicion of the papacy as antichrist, to a yet to come, future figure. Although Dispensationalism has no connection with the Jesuits it is a school of futurism.

Yours in the Lord,

jm