A Partial List of 7th Day Assemblies

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After the Resurrection of Jesus the Christians met on the first day of the week which is Sunday

That did happen once according to the NT - that much is agreed.

Some would argue that it happened 2 or 3 times perhaps -- for other reasons than as a memorial of the resurrection.

Not one "memorial of the resurrection" meeting on week-day-1 recorded in all of scripture
 
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except in the actual Bible.

In the Bible it is for all mankind for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth Isaiah 66:23
In the Bible all the Ten remain with "the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2 being the 5th commandment "still"

Only 9 on the Commandments are reaffirmed in the New Testament
 
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Beautiful isn't it? Pesach doesn't always fall on a day that would allow three days, for his resurrection to land on a Shabbat, thereby fulfilling the Yahshua's prophecy of Jonah. It was all in YHWH's plan!

Tell your friends!

Are you saying Jesus was crucified on Thursday and resurrected on ?? Saturday morning?
 
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Only 9 on the Commandments are reaffirmed in the New Testament

True because Ex 20:6 "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted from at all in the NT. By contrast the Sabbath is quoted from multiple times

Rev 14:7 - where the 4th commandment is quoted from
Heb 4 where the 4th commandment is quoted, and "remains" for the people of God
Acts 14:15 - where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
Acts 4:24 -where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
..... where the command not to take God's name in vain is quoted?

in the NT and "remains" according to Hebrews 4.

But that does not validate some sort of "whatever is not repeated must be deleted" rule to insert into the text. (as I already pointed out)
 
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What? Who said the week ends in the morning? HARK!, did you read what you were responding to.

Did you read what you were responding to?

Read this verse again, and tell me were the week ends, and were a new one begins.

(CLV) Mt 28:1
Now it is the evening of the sabbaths. At the lighting up into one of the sabbaths came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to behold the sepulcher.

It's the same Sabbath


Your model, of the week changing, doesn't work, unless you're one of those vert few SDAs who believe that the day begins at sunrise.

Now compare the outline that I provided, which can all be backed up with the Torah.
 
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Sorry my friend. The week doesn't end in the morning. It ends in the evening.

I'll run through this section of YHWH's Moedim (rehearsals), quickly.

The Passover lamb is sluaghtered on the 14th, Pesach. At sundown, the 15th, Hag Matzot begins, a High Shabbat. This is a Shabbat, the first day of Hag Matzot (unleavened bread). The next seventh day Shabbat, signals Bikkurim (first fruits). This date changes, according to the relationship of the 7th day cycle, and the new moon cycle. The Shabbat which follows Bikkurim will always fall on the 21st of Abib, the last day of Hag Matzot.

Sent only in love and as a help (highlighted in red my emphasis). The Feast of First Fruits was not a Sabbath. According to the scriptures it is the day after the Sabbath...

Leviticus 23:9-10 [10], Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them, When you be come into the land which I give to you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the priest: [11], And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: ON THE MORROW AFTER THE SABBATH the priest shall wave it.

This represented JESUS and those who rose with him on the Sunday...

1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept.
1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

God bless
 
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True because Ex 20:6 "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted from at all in the NT. By contrast the Sabbath is quoted from multiple times in the NT and "remains" according to Hebrews 4.

The 3rd Commandment is taught in
 
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Did you read what you were responding to?

Read this verse again, and tell me were the week ends, and were a new one begins.

(CLV) Mt 28:1
Now it is the evening of the sabbaths. At the lighting up into one of the sabbaths came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to behold the sepulcher.

It's the same Sabbath


Your model, of the week changing, doesn't work, unless you're one of those vert few SDAs who believe that the day begins at sunrise.

Now compare the outline that I provided, which can all be backed up with the Torah.

Where did I say to you that the week ends in the morning? What is it in the post sent to you that you think I said when I wrote...

LoveGodsWord said: The Greek word sabbaton has a few meaning here in Matthew 28:1 brother. JESUS did not rise on the seventh day Sabbath. Note in the Greek in this verse sabbaton is used twice? The Greek word for sabbath (sabbaton) also means week. So the correct translation is the first day of the week which is preferenced to the first. The second use of the word sabbaton in the Greek is to day one (the first) or first day of the week. This is also seen in the majority of all translations here. The parallel Gospels are also more evidence of this as shown in Luke 24:1 and Mark 16:2 and John 20:1.

Perhaps you have a misunderstanding as to what was written to you. Your translation is not very clear and does not agree with nearly every bible translation or the parallel gospels as shown above. Not that any translation is perfect. Of course a Friday crucifixion works out chronologically and as to the biblical definitions of a day. I will post on this in a new post as it will be a little long to add here.

God bless.
 
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After the Resurrection of Jesus the Christians met on the first day of the week which is Sunday

Jesus is God ... we either follow in His steps ... or not .... Jesus kept the Sabbath .... He created it for mankind. Keeping sunday in place of the Lords created 7th day sabbath is from man (such as you stated) .... not from Jesus.

1 Peter 2:21
For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.

1 John 2:6
Whoever claims to abide in Him must walk as Jesus walked.
 
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Only 9 on the Commandments are reaffirmed in the New Testament

True because Ex 20:6 "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted from at all in the NT. By contrast the Sabbath is quoted from multiple times

Rev 14:7 - where the 4th commandment is quoted and affirmed not condemned
Heb 4 where the Sabbath "remains" for the people of God
Acts 14:15 - where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
Acts 4:24 -where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
..... where the command not to take God's name in vain is quoted?

in the NT and "remains" according to Hebrews 4.

But that does not validate some sort of "whatever is not repeated must be deleted" rule to insert into the text. (as I already pointed out)

The 3rd Commandment is taught in

Indeed... no answer.

My argument is not against the 3rd commandment - my argument is that the fact it is never quoted from - is not proof of any diminishing of it in the NT.
 
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Are you saying Jesus was crucified on Thursday and resurrected on ?? Saturday morning?

By my estimation, it would have been in the middle of the week, the fourth day.

14th Abib = 4th day. Executed, put on the grave. Day 1

15th Abib = 5th day. At sundown Hag Matzot begins a Shabbat. Yahshua is in the grave as the Pesach lamb is being consumed by Israel. Night 1.

15th Abib = 5th day. The sun comes up. It's a Shabbat. Day 2

16th Abib = 6th day. At sundown the Shabbat ends, beginning the 16th day. Night 2.

16th Abib = 6th day The sun comes up. It's preparation day for Shabbat. Day 3.

17th Abib = 7th day. The sun goes down; and the weekly 7th day Shabbat begins. Night 3.

Three days and three night, not three nights and three days. Those say that Pesach was on the sixth day and that Yahshua rose on the first day, have a math problem. The solution is as easy as 1,2,3.

When Mary showed up before sunrise on the 17th, the 7th day, the tomb was empty. He rose that night, which began the 1st 7th day Shabbat, after the Shabbat of Hag Matzot. This 7th day Shabbat signals Bikkurim (first fruits).
 
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After the Resurrection of Jesus the Christians met on the first day of the week which is Sunday

indeed - -- for 40 days....

. 3 To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of things regarding the kingdom of God.

all of which were not week-day-1..

The Bible does not call week-day-1 Sunday, or the Lord's Day, or the Holy day of the Lord. It only calls it - week-day-1

It never says "remember week day 1"
It never say "every week day one we gather for worship"
It never says "every week day one we gather to remember the resurrection"

In fact the 1 Cor 11 statement on communion - the Lord's Supper - says that as often as you do this you do proclaim "the Lord's death" until He comes.
 
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By my estimation, it would have been in the middle of the week, the fourth day.

So Wednesday crucifixion and resurrection on Sabbath before sunrise ??

14th Abib = 4th day. Executed, put on the grave. Day 1

15th Abib = 5th day. At sundown Hag Matzot begins a Shabbat. Yahshua is in the grave as the Pesach lamb is being consumed by Israel. Night 1.

15th Abib = 5th day. The sun comes up. It's a Shabbat. Day 2

16th Abib = 6th day. At sundown the Shabbat ends, beginning the 16th day. Night 2.

16th Abib = 6th day The sun comes up. It's preparation day for Shabbat. Day 3.

17th Abib = 7th day. The sun goes down; and the weekly 7th day Shabbat begins. Night 3.

When Mary showed up before sunrise on the 17th, the 7th day, the tomb was empty. He rose that night, which began the 1st 7th day Shabbat, after the Shabbat of Hag Matzot. This 7th day Shabbat signals Bikkurim (first fruits).

Luke 24 - says that Sunday - during the day time -- is the third day since Christ's trial and crucifixion.

Are You possibly the only one living near Jerusalem who does not know about the things that happened here in these days?” 19 And He said to them, “What sort of things?” And they said to Him, “Those about Jesus the Nazarene, who proved to be a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people, 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers handed Him over to be sentenced to death, and crucified Him. 21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is now the third day since these things happened.
 
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Luke 24 - says that Sunday - during the day time -- is the third day since Christ's trial and crucifixion.
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they translate what we call first day of the week rather odd in CLV for Luke 24 ... but that creates a problem because then they have the disciples choosing to engage in a long walk on Sabbath to Emaus.

They had the concept of "A Sabbath days walk" at that time.

"Such a journey was 2,000 cubits (3,000 ft.-938 m.) from one’s house, a distance derived from the statement found in Josh.3.4.

The distance from Jerusalem to Emaus -- 60 furlongs (13200 yards)
2.5 miles.

Bible Map: Road to Emmaus

"Quloniyeh, a village about 35 stadia from Jerusalem, on the road to Jaffa. Josephus narrates (BJ, VII, vi, 6) that Vespasian "assigned a place for 800 men only whom he had dismissed from his army which he gave them for their habitation; it is called Emmaus and is distant from Jerusalem 60 furlongs." This is almost certainly the Emmaus of Luke; it is highly probable that the name quloniyeh is derived from the fact of its being this Colonia."
 
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True because Ex 20:6 "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted from at all in the NT. By contrast the Sabbath is quoted from multiple times

Rev 14:7 - where the 4th commandment is quoted and affirmed not condemned
Heb 4 where the Sabbath "remains" for the people of God
Acts 14:15 - where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
Acts 4:24 -where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
..... where the command not to take God's name in vain is quoted?

in the NT and "remains" according to Hebrews 4.

But that does not validate some sort of "whatever is not repeated must be deleted" rule to insert into the text. (as I already pointed out)



Indeed... no answer.

My argument is not against the 3rd commandment - my argument is that the fact it is never quoted from - is not proof of any diminishing of it in the NT.

taught in Matthew 5

"33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one
 
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By my estimation, it would have been in the middle of the week, the fourth day.

14th Abib = 4th day. Executed, put on the grave. Day 1

15th Abib = 5th day. At sundown Hag Matzot begins a Shabbat. Yahshua is in the grave as the Pesach lamb is being consumed by Israel. Night 1.

15th Abib = 5th day. The sun comes up. It's a Shabbat. Day 2

16th Abib = 6th day. At sundown the Shabbat ends, beginning the 16th day. Night 2.

16th Abib = 6th day The sun comes up. It's preparation day for Shabbat. Day 3.

17th Abib = 7th day. The sun goes down; and the weekly 7th day Shabbat begins. Night 3.

Three days and three night, not three nights and three days. Those say that Pesach was on the sixth day and that Yahshua rose on the first day, have a math problem. The solution is as easy as 1,2,3.

When Mary showed up before sunrise on the 17th, the 7th day, the tomb was empty. He rose that night, which began the 1st 7th day Shabbat, after the Shabbat of Hag Matzot. This 7th day Shabbat signals Bikkurim (first fruits).

Let's look at the detail HARK! from the scriptures....

We all agree that...

14 Nissan is Passover; 15 Nissan is Unleavened bread to be eaten and 16 Nissan is First Fruits.

The question is what days did these Feasts fall on when JESUS was crucified? This is what your post does not state. So let's look at the scriptures to determine your timings...

Forgive me here I had to make this a jpg as CF does not allow tables (or I do not know how to add them)...

Friday Resurrection.jpg

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CONCLUSION: As shown above through the scriptures if you examine them carefully, a Wednesday or a Thursday crucifixion does not work out chronologically according to the scriptures. The only chronology that can be reconciled with scripture on all points is the Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection. It is the only scenario in which the typical festival days and their fulfillment match exactly, without a single discrepancy!

The Feast of First Fruits was not a Sabbath. According to the scriptures it is the day after the Sabbath...

Leviticus 23:9-10 [10], Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them, When you be come into the land which I give to you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the priest: [11], And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: ON THE MORROW AFTER THE SABBATH the priest shall wave it.

This represented JESUS and those who rose with him on the Sunday...

1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept.
1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Hope this is helpful.
 
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Jesus is God ... we either follow in His steps ... or not .... Jesus kept the Sabbath .... He created it for mankind. Keeping sunday in place of the Lords created 7th day sabbath is from man (such as you stated) .... not from Jesus.

1 Peter 2:21
For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.

1 John 2:6
Whoever claims to abide in Him must walk as Jesus walked.

Christians are not Jews and do not keep the 7th day but the 1st. This is in the Bible
 
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Only 9 on the Commandments are reaffirmed in the New Testament

True because Ex 20:6 "do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted from at all in the NT. By contrast the Sabbath is quoted from multiple times

Rev 14:7 - where the 4th commandment is quoted and affirmed not condemned
Heb 4 where the Sabbath "remains" for the people of God
Acts 14:15 - where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
Acts 4:24 -where the 4th commandment is affirmed - quoted from directly
..... where the command not to take God's name in vain is quoted?

in the NT and "remains" according to Hebrews 4.

But that does not validate some sort of "whatever is not repeated must be deleted" rule to insert into the text. (as I already pointed out)

The 3rd Commandment is taught in

Indeed... no answer.

My argument is not against the 3rd commandment - my argument is that the fact it is never quoted from - is not proof of any diminishing of it in the NT.

taught in Matthew 5

"33 “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one

Taking God's name in vain by cursing etc is not addressed at all in Matt 5.

For example "do not swear by your head" is not about cursing or taking God's name in vain.
Just say "yes or no" is also not a quote from Ex 20:6.

All the other commandments are quoted from in the NT.
 
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