NJ Rep cites Constitution to avoid swearing in GOP "Traitors."

Arc F1 said:

Actually I do. Neither side excepts me. I have a brother who calls me a traitor right now and won't speak to me because I won't grab a rifle and March in support of Trump. Poor poor pitiful me, I know.

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Too bad you brother is part of the cult. I hope most Trump followers will ultimately put country ahead of the Donfather. Sad to see friends and family lose the ability to have disagreements without hate.

iluvatar5150 said:

It would seem that what you guys want is an anti-democratic cult leader who teases you with shallow platitudes and authoritarian tough guy charades while being mostly incompetent and acting like a baby when he doesn’t get his way.

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I've never quite wrapped my head around the way one minute he's pretending to be some highly aggressive warrior and the next minute whining like a little girl about how mean everyone is to him. Do his fans really not notice?

Kentonio said:

I've never quite wrapped my head around the way one minute he's pretending to be some highly aggressive warrior and the next minute whining like a little girl about how mean everyone is to him. Do his fans really not notice?

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I don’t think they have a good, consistent idea of what strength really looks like.

TLK Valentine said:

It's really quite simple... a bully is a person who only goes after those who he thinks are weaker than him, and can't fight back.

But scratch the surface of any bully, and you'll find a coward. What happens when someone does stand up to one?

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In this case, a woman beat him after he tried to shut down the government to get his little wall built. And yet his fan club still thinks he's a tough super macho type-a manly man.

Perhaps refusing to seat 126 House members would be a little bit of overkill, but I think that the Speaker needs to put Republican Congress members on notice as soon as the Electoral College votes that any House member that decides to challenge that vote on January 6 won't be seated.

That will lower the impact to the one or two biggest promoters of the voter fraud hoax lessening confidence in our electoral process, like Matt Gaetz.

cow451 said:

Too bad you brother is part of the cult. I hope most Trump followers will ultimately put country ahead of the Donfather. Sad to see friends and family lose the ability to have disagreements without hate.

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The older we get the less we like change. Remember the hippie movement? Now I'm on the side of the old people and my hair all fell out.

No.
I am talking about the Speaker's ability to seat a member for good reason...like challenging the electoral results to overturn the election
The governor would have to appoint a replacement.

None on the record.

disciple Clint said:

That would look a lot like punishing people for exercising their constitutional rights and appropriate legal procedures.

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Sedition is not "exercising constitutional rights!!"

mmksparbud said:

Sedition is not "exercising constitutional rights!!"

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You are absolutely correct which is why it has nothing to do with this action on the part of Trump and his supporters.

disciple Clint said:

You are absolutely correct which is why it has nothing to do with this action on the part of Trump and his supporters.

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Well, it's not Biden and his followers who are talking about it!!

Arc F1 said:

"Pandering to idiot voters is not treason."
Is that how you really see people who actually take time to vote?

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It's how we see people who will buy whatever the trump propogandists are spewing today.

Fantine said:

I think that the Speaker needs to put Republican Congress members on notice as soon as the Electoral College votes that any House member that decides to challenge that vote on January 6 won't be seated.

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Can she actually do this? Is it constitutional?

There is talk about representatives who intend to challenge Electoral College votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. Is this even possible when all these, except Wisconsin, finished their final certifications before Safe Harbor Day?

Fantine said:

Perhaps refusing to seat 126 House members would be a little bit of overkill, but I think that the Speaker needs to put Republican Congress members on notice as soon as the Electoral College votes that any House member that decides to challenge that vote on January 6 won't be seated.

That will lower the impact to the one or two biggest promoters of the voter fraud hoax lessening confidence in our electoral process, like Matt Gaetz.

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People do not lose their rights just because what they want to do is not popular. This is THE USA we do not repress freedom here. This cancel culture mentality needs to come to an end, it is flat out unamerican.

disciple Clint said:

This cancel culture mentality needs to come to an end, it is flat out unamerican.

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Sorry but you don’t seem to know the history of your own country very well. Go back 150 years and the kind of talk Trump supporters are engaging in would have certainly been considered sedition and likely prompted armed response.

On a wider note, the kind of language Trump et al use was never ok in America, and this idea of total freedom of speech is laughable. If someone 150-200 years ago had publicly insulted another mans wife, or smeared them in the way Trump loves to do, the expectation would have been that they would be physically attacked if not killed for it.

What you call ‘cancel culture’ was the absolute norm in the past. People simply did not behave like that because the consequences would have been fierce and often fatal.