Isn't the number of people who could be saved infinite?

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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.
God does not save to have some random number come to praise him. He talks about members of the body of Christ, members of the Bride of Christ, the Church, chosen before the foundation of the world. Specific members for a specific purpose. The is no "pool of possibles" from which he can pick at random. And if someone doesn't want to be left out, talk to God about it! Might be that person is one of those God has predestined for himself.
 
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The number is finite even if God saved everyone who ever lived, past, present, and future. Even if people are produced after God fully establishes his kingdom and wipes out sin, then there is no need for those people born afterwards to be saved as people would no longer be born into a fallen world.
 
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The Word of God does seem to indicate a countless number not sure if that is infinite but i suppose so.

Revelation 7:9
"After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands."
 
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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.


You are correct however the majority choose not to follow Jesus and be lost.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Matthew 7:12-14 King James Version (KJV)
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in there at:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 4:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
 
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A time will come when this age will come to an end, the book of revelations.

You could say it's when sin reaches its fullest, when one person / group has so much power and try's to rule the world for his own desires. They destroy the current system of the world and put everyone under theirs.

A time where everyone in the world will be forced to chose to come under his rule and his way of life, or put to death. A christian can't follow him, therefore Christianity will be eradicated from the world, and no one else can be saved. It's either their way or you don't belong in this world, which in turn, is when Jesus will return.

It's not an infinite number because, this age will come to an end. The time period is the one were currently in, untill this power comes in.
 
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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.

It could be infinite, but it's not. It's a great multitude that men cannot number, but God has declared the ends from the beginnings.

Meaning, there are only a finite number of people who will be saved. When their number is fulfilled, the judgement will come.
 
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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.
Do you have a verse? Saying the Bible implies a subject does not mean the "Bible talks about." Humans say a lot of things talking about the Bible, that the Bible never says.
 
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The Word of God does seem to indicate a countless number not sure if that is infinite but i suppose so.

Revelation 7:9
"After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands."
It does not say can not be counted. It says beyond the ability of a person to count. I suppose one could count to 1 billion, but they would not have time to do much of anything else. If my math is correct counting one person per second would take one 31,710 years, so if there were 20 billion in Paradise that is a finite number but no one could count them. I doubt in the first century they even used the term billion that often.
 
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It could be infinite, but it's not. It's a great multitude that men cannot number, but God has declared the ends from the beginnings.

Meaning, there are only a finite number of people who will be saved. When their number is fulfilled, the judgement will come.
Not necessarily. God is not waiting for a certain amount any more than a certain time or event. There is nothing keeping God nor anything created that determines when God will come. God is just going to make the decision and it will be final. Those who waited, will not have the choice any more. Not that God was waiting for them. If they had made up their mind just prior to, would not have changed God's decision. God decided before Creation all could be saved. Most decided to reject God.

Creation is not infinite. It had a beginning and will have an end.
 
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God is not waiting for a certain amount any more than a certain time or event

I do believe God has decreed who will be saved, and therefore won't come before they come to Christ.

Creation is not infinite

Which is what I said...
 
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I do believe God has decreed who will be saved, and therefore won't come before they come to Christ.
Which is what I said...
It is certain that belief is impossible. God's choice was to place every name in the Lamb's book of life before creation, being no respector of person. That is the only decree God made. 2 Peter 3:9

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God's Will is that all enjoy His Atonement. If all today would repent and God heals all nations, He still would not come the second after. There is still going to be a major event that kills 25% of humanity. The 4th Seal has not happened yet.
 
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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.
What do you mean the Bible "says"? Where exactly does it say this?
 
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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.


As the total number of people that might possibly exist will never be infinite, the number of people that could be saved is finite as well.
 
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Surely there is no end to the number of people who can be saved right? The bible talks about God waiting until all who will be saved are saved but this seems to indicate a time period that may not exist.
Right you are when you say "a time period that may not exist".
God says the following to Himself.
Genesis 8:21 And when the LORD smelled the pleasing aroma, the LORD said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man’s heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I ever again strike down every living creature as I have done."

Psalms 148: 3Praise him, sun and moon,
praise him, all you shining stars!
4Praise him, you highest heavens,
and you waters above the heavens!5Let them praise the name of the LORD!
For he commanded and they were created.
6And he established them forever and ever;
he gave a decree, and it shall not pass away.

Here's how long the church lasts.
Ephesians 3:20 Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

From the following you can see the church will always be added to.
Isaiah 9:6For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given;
and the government shall be upon his shoulder,
and his name shall be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7Of the increase of his government and of peace
there will be no end,
on the throne of David and over his kingdom,
to establish it and to uphold it
with justice and with righteousness
from this time forth and forevermore.
The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this.

That can also be seen in Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”
 
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7Of the increase of his government and of peace
there will be no end,

Indeed.
An endless increase of His government necessitates an endless increase in the amount of people that enter into and under His governorship.
 
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Indeed.
An endless increase of His government necessitates an endless increase in the amount of people that enter into and under His governorship.
Since procreation on earth will never be limited, sure why not have an infinite number of humans?
 
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Since procreation on earth will never be limited, sure why not have an infinite number of humans?

If it's God's Will to continue to Save Humans for eternity, why would anyone object to that?
 
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If it's God's Will to continue to Save Humans for eternity, why would anyone object to that?
If it is it God's will for humans to be free of sin, and no more sin or Satan, why would any one object to that?

The point is not about sin, but indefinite humanity. You do know that salvation is not necessary if no one is still a sinner?

Exodus 20 says to remember the Sabbath day that was holy and set apart to God. That means no sin and no Satan. Only 6 days were allowed for sin and Satan, because 6 was the number of 24 hour periods that God used in creation. Do you think sin was to benefit humanity or Satan? Think about that the next time the thought pops up that humans will always be sinners and in need of salvation.
 
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