The fulfillment of Daniel 9:24

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

Douggg said:
I am going to decline, except regarding the vision being fulfilled in the 7 year 70th week. Which I have stated what the vision is and why and when within the 70th week.

Okay, that's your choice. I think it reveals a weakness in your understanding of the 70 weeks that you are unable to explain how and when the things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. All of them had to be fulfilled by the end of the 70 weeks. Yet, you don't have an explanation for how or when some of them will be fulfilled. That's very interesting.

Douggg · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
Okay, that's your choice. I think it reveals a weakness in your understanding of the 70 weeks that you are unable to explain how and when the things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. All of them had to be fulfilled by the end of the 70 weeks. Yet, you don't have an explanation for how or when some of them will be fulfilled. That's very interesting.

I guess you can say the same about all of the other posters in this forum who have not posted in this thread as well.

DavidPT · Dec 13, 2020

Douggg said:
How can anyone comment of Daniel 9:24, unless they know what the vision being referenced is?

IMO, regardless that Spiritual Jew does not agree with me nor you, he is not making sense here to some of us. Some of us are trying to show why not all of the 70 weeks are fulfilled, and instead of him considering that maybe we might have a point here, he is then asking us to show when these things are fulfilled, which is exactly what we are trying to do, yet insists we are not even doing that.

Hasn't anyone, other than maybe a cpl of us, ever stopped to think that perhaps some of these visions throughout the book of Daniel are interconnected, and that the way to unlock the book of Daniel is to combine all of these visions into one vision? Can't some of these see that Daniel is being given bits of info here and there, and at different times, and that these visions are being further expanded on each time Daniel is visited and given further understanding? This obviously requires digging into these things a bit deeper. But instead of some willing to do any of that, they instead insist that the 70 weeks are finished, case closed, nothing else to discuss. IOW, they are clearly being closed-minded here.

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

DavidPT said:
I'll just make it simple then. Christ fulfilled some of these things mentioned in verse 24 at the cross. Whether or not that was in the middle of the 70th week, I'm not certain. The fact we are told He is cutoff, that obviously means the cross. As to what Christ accomplished at the cross, that is what the 2nd half of the 70th week is trying to take away, and that anyone reading the NT, such as in 2 Thessalanians 2:4, Revelation 13, to name a few, can easily see that the one meant here sets out to do that very thing by making himself God instead. But none of that involves the literal, such as a literal brick and mortar temple located somewhere in literal Jerusalem. What hasn't been fulfiiled at the cross is the trangression upon Daniel's ppl and the holy city. In what way would what Christ accomplished on the cross finish the transgression concerning the holy city? Where do you have a 2nd witness to that in the NT?

I gave my understanding of Daniel 9:24 already in my original post. If you don't see the answer to your question there, then I don't know what to tell you. My understanding comes completely from what the NT teaches about these things.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression---requires an entire 70 weeks have to be finshed first.

What do you mean exactly? Are you just saying that you think the finishing of the transgression has to occur at the very end of the 70 weeks which you believe is still in the future?

And to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity---Christ did this at the cross.

Agree. I see the finishing of the transgression as going hand in hand with those, personally. Do you not allow for that possibility?

and to bring in everlasting righteousness---this one I'm not entirely certain about, in light of 2 Peter 3:13. If everlasting righteousness had already been brought in, why didn't Peter already know that, thus no reason for him to be looking for a future time, wherein dwelleth righteousness, when you would think everlasting righteousness being brought in should already have that covered.

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

If you are not certain about this then you can't be certain that your understanding of the 70 weeks is correct, right? I believe there are only 2 ways in which everlasting righteousness can be understood. If you read my original post you can see how I understand it to be referring to Christ coming to give us forgiveness for sins and everlasting life so that we can be seen as righteous in God's eyes. That's one way it could be fulfilled if you see it as being fulfilled in a spiritual sense like that.

If you see it as referring to literally bringing in everlasting righteousness while putting an end to wickedness then seeing 2 Peter 3:13 and Revelation 21:1-4 as the fulfillment of that would make sense. However, if you, as a premil, have the 70th week being fulfilled at that time you would have the last half of the 70th week being fulfilled long after the second coming of Christ even though you currently have it being fulfilled at His second coming. This is something I think you need to think more about.

and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy----For one thing I see it not making sense that the last thing mentioned is to anoint the most Holy, but that this is actually meaning one of the first things accomplished, the fact some of you have this meaning before Christ even went to the cross.

The order in which they are listed is irrelevant. It does not indicate at all that those things had to be fulfilled in the order they are listed. I believe you are once again inserting an idea into a passage that simply isn't there.

But, all of that aside, can you tell me how and when you think the anointing of the most Holy will be fulfilled?

As to the vision mentioned, my last post sheds some light on my thoughts concerning that. So no reason to go over all that again.

I just read that again and I don't see where you explained how and when you believe the reference to sealing up the vision and prophecy will be fulfilled. It looks like you're saying you don't know?

As to this vision. You assume it is meaning what is recorded in verses 25-27. I have no issue with that. But what if what is recorded in those verses also involve events recorded in other visions outside of this chapter? How can one then insist these other visions are not involved in any of these events recorded in verses 25-27?

Discussing that is beyond the scope of what I intended for this thread. If you can use other parts of Daniel to support your understanding of Daniel 9:24, I don't have a problem with that. Feel free to refer to those when addressing your understanding of Daniel 9:24.

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

DavidPT said:
IMO, regardless that Spiritual Jew does not agree with me nor you, he is not making sense here to some of us. Some of us are trying to show why not all of the 70 weeks are fulfilled, and instead of him considering that maybe we might have a point here, he is then asking us to show when these things are fulfilled, which is exactly what we are trying to do, yet insists we are not even doing that.

Come on, David. I made it very clear what the purpose of this thread is and you know that. Doug only gave his understanding of how and when 2 of the 6 things listed would be fulfilled and he declined to give his understanding of the other 4 things listed and I assume that's because he doesn't have an answer for how and when those things will be fulfilled. The 70th week being unfulfilled is crucial to his whole end times paradigm and, yet, he has no explanation for how most of Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. That's not a sturdy foundation upon which to establish a doctrine.

You have now given your understanding of how and when some of those things will be fulfilled and I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm not saying you didn't do that or that you're not trying to do that.

It looks like there are at least 2 of those things that you don't have an explanation for at this point.

So, what I'm trying to show here in this thread is that people like you and Doug and others, who think you have such a strong grasp of the 70 weeks actually don't.

Hasn't anyone, other than maybe a cpl of us, ever stopped to think that perhaps some of these visions throughout the book of Daniel are interconnected, and that the way to unlock the book of Daniel is to combine all of these visions into one vision? Can't some of these see that Daniel is being given bits of info here and there, and at different times, and that these visions are being further expanded on each time Daniel is visited and given further understanding? This obviously requires digging into these things a bit deeper. But instead of some willing to do any of that, they instead insist that the 70 weeks are finished, case closed, nothing else to discuss. IOW, they are clearly being closed-minded here.

That is absolutely not true. If there was nothing else to discuss then why did Amil jeffweedaman create the "70 weeks" thread and why did I create this thread? Apparently, we are willing to discusss this further, right?

Why don't you create a separate thread where we can discuss how other visions in Daniel could be related to Daniel 9:24-27? If you want to use those other visions to support your explanations for the fulfillment of the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 then I have no problem with that at all.

ewq1938 · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
Do you mean until the ushering in of the new heavens and new earth as described in Revelation 21?

Yes. That is when all living are immortal and live for eternity.

mkgal1 · Dec 13, 2020

I've not read further than this post:

Douggg said:
How can anyone comment of Daniel 9:24, unless they know what the vision being referenced is?

Good point.

I think Jesus gave us a clue to that when He said to Caiaphas:

"But I say to all of you, from now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.” ~ Matthew 26:64

........which points back to this:

Daniel 7:13-14
In my vision in the night I continued to watch,

and I saw One like the Son of Man (b)

coming with the clouds of heaven.(c)

He approached the Ancient of Days

and was led into His presence. And He was given dominion,

glory, and kingship,

that the people of every nation and language

should serve Him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion

that will not pass away,

and His kingdom is one

that will never be destroyed.

........Jesus seems to also refer to this vision here as well:

Matthew 21:42-45 (see Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-18)
42Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

‘The stone the builders rejected

has become the cornerstone.

This is from the Lord,

and it is marvelous in our eyes’(k)?

43Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.l”45When the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they knew that Jesus was speaking about them.

.......compare that to:

Daniel 7:16-18,21-22
16I approached one of those who were standing there, and I asked him the true meaning of all this.

So he told me the interpretation of these things: 17‘These four great beasts are four kings who will arise from the earth. 18But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and possess it forever—yes, forever and ever.’

21As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and prevailing against them, 22until the Ancient of Days arrived and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for them to possess the kingdom.

BABerean2 · Dec 13, 2020

Douggg said:
The transgression of desolation is a single day act. Near the end of the first half of the 7 years. The 7 years begin when the Antichrist has the law read to nation of Israel from the temple mount.

Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.

From "Antiquities of the Jews" by Josephus, Book 12, chapter 7

"6. When therefore the generals of Antiochus's armies had been beaten so often, Judas assembled the people together, and told them, that after these many victories which God had given them, they ought to go up to Jerusalem, and purify the temple, and offer the appointed sacrifices. But as soon as he, with the whole multitude, was come to Jerusalem, and found the temple deserted, and its gates burnt down, and plants growing in the temple of their own accord, on account of its desertion, he and those that were with him began to lament, and were quite confounded at the sight of the temple; so he chose out some of his soldiers, and gave them order to fight against those guards that were in the citadel, until he should have purified the temple. When therefore he had carefully purged it, and had brought in new vessels, the candlestick, the table [of shew-bread], and the altar [of incense], which were made of gold, he hung up the veils at the gates, and added doors to them. He also took down the altar [of burnt-offering], and built a new one of stones that he gathered together, and not of such as were hewn with iron tools. So on the five and twentieth day of the month Casleu, which the Macedonians call Apeliens, they lighted the lamps that were on the candlestick, and offered incense upon the altar [of incense], and laid the loaves upon the table [of shew-bread], and offered burnt-offerings upon the new altar [of burnt-offering]. Now it so fell out, that these things were done on the very same day on which their Divine worship had fallen off, and was reduced to a profane and common use, after three years' time; for so it was, that the temple was made desolate by Antiochus, and so continued for three years. This desolation happened to the temple in the hundred forty and fifth year, on the twenty-fifth day of the month Apeliens, and on the hundred fifty and third olympiad: but it was dedicated anew, on the same day, the twenty-fifth of the month Apeliens, on the hundred and forty-eighth year, and on the hundred and fifty-fourth olympiad. And this desolation came to pass according to the prophecy of Daniel, which was given four hundred and eight years before; for he declared that the Macedonians would dissolve that worship [for some time].

7. Now Judas celebrated the festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the temple for eight days, and omitted no sort of pleasures thereon; but he feasted them upon very rich and splendid sacrifices; and he honored God, and delighted them by hymns and psalms. Nay, they were so very glad at the revival of their customs, when, after a long time of intermission, they unexpectedly had regained the freedom of their worship, that they made it a law for their posterity, that they should keep a festival, on account of the restoration of their temple worship, for eight days. And from that time to this we celebrate this festival, and call it Lights. I suppose the reason was, because this liberty beyond our hopes appeared to us; and that thence was the name given to that festival. Judas also rebuilt the walls round about the city, and reared towers of great height against the incursions of enemies, and set guards therein. He also fortified the city Bethsura, that it might serve as a citadel against any distresses that might come from our enemies. "

Josephus confirms above the understanding of the Jews of his time, who knew that Daniel had predicted the events of 167 BC, by Antiochus Epiphanes.
Josephus confirms it as a historical fact.

John 10:22 is a reference to the celebration of Hanukkah each year by the Jews of Jesus time.

The Book of Matthew was addressed mainly to a Jewish audience. Jesus was telling the Jews of His time that something similar to 167 BC would happen during 70 AD. Not only did Antiochus desecrate the temple, but he also attacked the city killing thousands of Jews and stopped the temple sacrifices. The temple sacrifices would also stop in 70 AD, due to the destruction of the temple. Based on John 10:22, the Jews were well aware of this historical fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy. Luke’s Gospel was written to more of a Gentile audience, so he spelled it out for them.

Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20-21 are clearly parallel accounts, because we have the same reference to flee in the second verse in each Gospel.

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Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

ewq1938 said:
Yes. That is when all living are immortal and live for eternity.

So, is it your understanding that each of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24 are 7 years in duration? If so, that would mean in your premil view the 70th week will end 1000+ years after the second coming of Christ because all of the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 have to be fulfilled within the 70 week time period. Is that an accurate description of what you believe?

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

Douggg said:
I guess you can say the same about all of the other posters in this forum who have not posted in this thread as well.

No, I can't say that about someone who hasn't yet indicated how they interpret Daniel 9:24 and what they believe about how and when the six things listed in that verse were or will be fulfilled. It wouldn't be right for me to make any assumptions about anyone who hasn't shared their understanding of Daniel 9:24.

But, it's very interesting to me that so far no one who believes that the 70th week is unfulfilled has been able to tell me how and when the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. I'm not sure how anyone like that can feel certain about their understanding of Daniel 9:24-27 when that is the case.

ewq1938 · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
So, is it your understanding that each of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24 are 7 years in duration?

I don't know. The verse says sin will end and sin hasn't ended so that's what I wanted to bring up to you.

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

ewq1938 said:
I don't know. The verse says sin will end and sin hasn't ended so that's what I wanted to bring up to you.

Part of the reason I created this thread is in the hope of getting people to consider whether those things listed in Daniel 9:24 are not meant to be taken literally in the sense that it's talking about the literal end of sin and so on. Do you think it's possible that it's talking about making an end to sin in the same sense as these passages are talking about, which is in the sense of Jesus taking away our sins and taking away the penalty for sin?

Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

1 John 3:5 "And ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not"

2 Cor 5:21 "For He hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him."

1 Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Douggg · Dec 13, 2020

BABerean2 said:
Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.

From "Antiquities of the Jews" by Josephus, Book 12, chapter 7

"6. When therefore the generals of Antiochus's armies had been beaten so often, Judas assembled the people together, and told them, that after these many victories which God had given them, they ought to go up to Jerusalem, and purify the temple, and offer the appointed sacrifices. But as soon as he, with the whole multitude, was come to Jerusalem, and found the temple deserted, and its gates burnt down, and plants growing in the temple of their own accord, on account of its desertion, he and those that were with him began to lament, and were quite confounded at the sight of the temple; so he chose out some of his soldiers, and gave them order to fight against those guards that were in the citadel, until he should have purified the temple. When therefore he had carefully purged it, and had brought in new vessels, the candlestick, the table [of shew-bread], and the altar [of incense], which were made of gold, he hung up the veils at the gates, and added doors to them. He also took down the altar [of burnt-offering], and built a new one of stones that he gathered together, and not of such as were hewn with iron tools. So on the five and twentieth day of the month Casleu, which the Macedonians call Apeliens, they lighted the lamps that were on the candlestick, and offered incense upon the altar [of incense], and laid the loaves upon the table [of shew-bread], and offered burnt-offerings upon the new altar [of burnt-offering]. Now it so fell out, that these things were done on the very same day on which their Divine worship had fallen off, and was reduced to a profane and common use, after three years' time; for so it was, that the temple was made desolate by Antiochus, and so continued for three years. This desolation happened to the temple in the hundred forty and fifth year, on the twenty-fifth day of the month Apeliens, and on the hundred fifty and third olympiad: but it was dedicated anew, on the same day, the twenty-fifth of the month Apeliens, on the hundred and forty-eighth year, and on the hundred and fifty-fourth olympiad. And this desolation came to pass according to the prophecy of Daniel, which was given four hundred and eight years before; for he declared that the Macedonians would dissolve that worship [for some time].

7. Now Judas celebrated the festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the temple for eight days, and omitted no sort of pleasures thereon; but he feasted them upon very rich and splendid sacrifices; and he honored God, and delighted them by hymns and psalms. Nay, they were so very glad at the revival of their customs, when, after a long time of intermission, they unexpectedly had regained the freedom of their worship, that they made it a law for their posterity, that they should keep a festival, on account of the restoration of their temple worship, for eight days. And from that time to this we celebrate this festival, and call it Lights. I suppose the reason was, because this liberty beyond our hopes appeared to us; and that thence was the name given to that festival. Judas also rebuilt the walls round about the city, and reared towers of great height against the incursions of enemies, and set guards therein. He also fortified the city Bethsura, that it might serve as a citadel against any distresses that might come from our enemies. "

Josephus confirms above the understanding of the Jews of his time, who knew that Daniel had predicted the events of 167 BC, by Antiochus Epiphanes.
Josephus confirms it as a historical fact.

John 10:22 is a reference to the celebration of Hanukkah each year by the Jews of Jesus time.

The Book of Matthew was addressed mainly to a Jewish audience. Jesus was telling the Jews of His time that something similar to 167 BC would happen during 70 AD. Not only did Antiochus desecrate the temple, but he also attacked the city killing thousands of Jews and stopped the temple sacrifices. The temple sacrifices would also stop in 70 AD, due to the destruction of the temple. Based on John 10:22, the Jews were well aware of this historical fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy. Luke’s Gospel was written to more of a Gentile audience, so he spelled it out for them.

Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20-21 are clearly parallel accounts, because we have the same reference to flee in the second verse in each Gospel.

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I created a separate thread.

Why Antiochus was not the little horn

ewq1938 · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
Do you think it's possible that it's talking about making an end to sin in the same sense as these passages are talking about?

No. Those verses speak of a temporary removal of sins but people continue to sin so sin still exists. Sinning is like getting a pimple. It can heal up and disappear but can come back later and the forgiveness/healing must happen again. IMO Daniel was writing about sin itself no longer existing.

"to make an end of sins" is not the same as "to make a forgiving of sins".

Douggg · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
No, I can't say that about someone who hasn't yet indicated how they interpret Daniel 9:24 and what they believe about how and when the six things listed in that verse were or will be fulfilled. It wouldn't be right for me to make any assumptions about anyone who hasn't shared their understanding of Daniel 9:24.

But, it's very interesting to me that so far no one who believes that the 70th week is unfulfilled has been able to tell me how and when the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled. I'm not sure how anyone like that can feel certain about their understanding of Daniel 9:24-27 when that is the case.

You are violating the intent of your thread not to be accusative and argumentative.

go back to your post #21, edit it, removing all content. You will probably have to put a period in the empty space, so the edit will go through.

Do the same for your post #30.

Then afterward, I will do the same for my post #22 and this post #35.

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

Douggg said:
You are violating the intent of your thread not to be accusative and argumentative.

How am I doing that? I have the right to believe that it's a weakness in your doctrine to not be able to explain Daniel 9:24. Especially when you act so confident that the 70th week is still unfulfilled. Shouldn't you be able to show how and when the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 are fulfilled if your framework is so "infallible"?

go back to your post #21, edit it, removing all content. You will probably have to put a period in the empty space, so the edit will go through.

Do the same for your post #30.

Then afterward, I will do the same for my post #22 and this post #35.

No, I don't need to do that. You are being overly sensitive just because I'm exposing a weakness in your doctrine.

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

ewq1938 said:
No. Those verses speak of a temporary removal of sins but people continue to sin so sin still exists. Sinning is like getting a pimple. It can heal up and disappear but can come back later and the forgiveness/healing must happen again. IMO Daniel was writing about sin itself no longer existing.

"to make an end of sins" is not the same as "to make a forgiving of sins".

Okay, so I guess you believe the 70th week will begin and end a long time after the second coming of Christ then.

Douggg · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
How am I doing that? I have the right to believe that it's a weakness in your doctrine to not be able to explain Daniel 9:24. Especially when you act so confident that the 70th week is still unfulfilled. Shouldn't you be able to show how and when the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 are fulfilled if your framework is so "infallible"?

No, I don't need to do that. You are being overly sensitive just because I'm exposing a weakness in your doctrine.

Oh, you just want a one way street, where you can accuse someone else's position specifically, but they are not allowed to post rebuttals. That shows extreme weakness in your own position.

Spiritual Jew · Dec 13, 2020

Douggg said:
Oh, you just want a one way street, where you can accuse someone else's position specifically, but they are not allowed to post rebuttals.

When did I say that people can't post rebuttals? I never did. If you look at the end of my original post I said "So, if you disagree with my understanding of the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24, then please share yours and we can talk about it.". I never said we couldn't debate our understanding of Daniel 9:24 in this thread, so what exactly are you complaining about?

Douggg · Dec 13, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
When did I say that people can't post rebuttals? I never did. If you look at the end of my original post I said "So, if you disagree with my understanding of the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24, then please share yours and we can talk about it.". I never said we couldn't debate our understanding of Daniel 9:24 in this thread, so what exactly are you complaining about?

Here is what you wrote post #13. You directed me to another thread "70 weeks".

You are doing the very thing I asked people not to do. Is it too much to ask for you to just tell me how and when the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 will be fulfilled? Why is it so hard for me to get straight answers from those of you who believe that Daniel 9:24 is not yet fulfilled?

There is another thread called "70 weeks" where we can talk in more detail about the overall prophecy. I created this separate thread because I wish to discuss Daniel 9:24 in this thread and talk about how and when the six things listed there would be fulfilled within the 70 weeks

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When I wrote I decline to discuss the 6 things in Daniel 9:24, except that which I had already commented on "the vision" part. Your response in post #21 should have been "okay." And nothing more.

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