Why Is It Bad If I Don't Get Vaccinated?

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mikeforjesus

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Actually I don’t think this is the real thing and if there is a chance we offend others because there is risk of it killing others and this is to blame I think If the vaccine is not dangerous all should take it who don’t have a risk of dying from the vaccine so that the virus does not exist anymore or that all are encouraged to be immune so it can never kill anyone because it can’t be the mark of the beast or related because one is afraid of tempting God or making others blame us for others death which is possible. It can only be related to the mark of the beast if one willingly knows that it is definitely wrong to receive it. I think I should not let others feel condemned if they take the vaccine and I should encourage it as it is otherwise tempting God unless the vaccine is harmful and if there is a possibility of death one should not teach God will protect if we don’t know though He could
 
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Bill in New York State Assembly seeks to empower health department to mandate COVID-19 vaccine

Wherever there have been mask mandates there will be vaccine mandates. This isn't surprising. Many vaccines have been mandated for a long time. My family and I don't vaccinate at all so we will not be getting the COVID vaccine. I'm always a little confused as to why this is such a problem for public health. Help me understand. Isn't it the case that:

1. A successful vaccine prevents the vaccinated person from getting sick.
2. Most people will become vaccinated.

If (1) is true, then why does my refusal to get vaccinated threaten public health? I understand that I may be more at risk of getting sick because I forgo a vaccine, but how is it that others are harmed if I am not vaccinated? Does your vaccine no longer work if I don't get vaccinated?
The more people that don't get vaccinated the longer this disease will linger and kill in the future.

Only about half of the US population receive the flu vaccine, each year, and this leads to many deaths which would not have occurred if they had been vaccinated. On average, about 35,000 Americans die each year from the flu, most of these were not vaccinated.

Without receiving the Covid-19 vaccine, you are a risk to yourself and anyone without, also, getting the shot, including new borns.
 
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The more people that don't get vaccinated the longer this disease will linger and kill in the future.

Only about half of the US population receive the flu vaccine, each year, and this leads to many deaths which would not have occurred if they had been vaccinated. On average, about 35,000 Americans die each year from the flu, most of these were not vaccinated.

Without receiving the Covid-19 vaccine, you are a risk to yourself and anyone without, also, getting the shot, including new borns.

I also don’t get the flu vaccine. I’m not worried about me or my family getting the flu or COVID.
 
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I also don’t get the flu vaccine. I’m not worried about me or my family getting the flu or COVID.
That's your right but it doesn't change facts. Thousands die every year because they refuse to get the flu vaccine.
 
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That's your right but it doesn't change facts. Thousands die every year because they refuse to get the flu vaccine.
If one has had success trusting in the Lord for their health and safety, would try and tell them that they should reconsider and, instead, trust in more than "just the Lord?"

Will you tell them that, even if God has kept them safe in the past, this new enemy requires more than "just His protection?"

Are we putting too much trust in the Lord?
 
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The government has no right, no power under the Constitution to ORDER me to taken within my body a vaccine.
This may be true for all I know - I am not an American and know nothing about your Constitution. Let's say you are right - that the government cannot order you to take a vaccine. Is it also not true that institutions likes schools, restaurants, sports venues, theaters, stores etc have the right to refuse admission to a person who cannot demonstrate that they have been vaccinated? I would bet they actually have this right.
 
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Are we putting too much trust in the Lord?
This idea that we should not seek appropriate health care measures because that somehow demonstrates a lack of trust in God's care is silliness of the highest (lowest?) order. I am not saying you believe this but it appears many do.
 
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Is this the appropriate question for a follower of Jesus to ask? Surely, you would agree that "my rights" are not the only consideration at play here.

Rights are never the only consideration but neither should they be thoughtlessly cast aside. We have a right and responsibility to worship God according to how the Bible prescribes. More liberal parts of the country are forbidding churches from worshipping together. That’s a big deal.
 
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More liberal parts of the country are forbidding churches from worshipping together. That’s a big deal.
I believe the medical authorities will tell us that worshipping together is a recipe for disaster. This is not rocket science: large groups of people congregating, especially if there is singing, is not responsible.

I should think it obvious that in this particular time, the Christian thing to do to set aside gathering in person for a few months.

As many others have said, the virus does not care about politics - it only wants warm bodies.
 
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We have a right and responsibility to worship God according to how the Bible prescribes.

exactly as a Pastor said using this passage from Peter as he said several times "honor the emperor"


13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.


Pastor said "we can disagree, we don't have to like it but we're going to honor the emperor"
I'll listen again to write more of what Pastor said
 
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exactly as a Pastor said using this passage from Peter as he said several times "honor the emperor"


13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.


Pastor said "we can disagree, we don't have to like it but we're going to honor the emperor"
I'll listen again to write more of what Pastor said

The authorities in Paul and Peter’s day commanded that the people make sacrifices to Caesar. Should they have obeyed?
 
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Is it my right?
You have a right to do all kinds of immoral, irresponsible things. That’s not really the point. Sure, don’t get vaccinated. Be mean to people, cheat on your wife, tell your kids they are failures and you don’t love them. You have the right!
 
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More liberal parts of the country are forbidding churches from worshipping together. That’s a big deal.
A hundred years ago during that plague, churches were closed. Nobody thought it was political.
 
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This idea that we should not seek appropriate health care measures because that somehow demonstrates a lack of trust in God's care is silliness of the highest (lowest?) order. I am not saying you believe this but it appears many do.
Yes it is very silly indeed, the idea that God has the power to keep one healthy without outside help. But this is ok....because there are only a few, peculiar people believe this and are affected by this belief.

Rest easy, knowing that many there be that believe as you do.
 
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A hundred years ago during that plague, churches were closed. Nobody thought it was political.
There were many that stayed open.....There are news articles about then......The towns that they were in were considered the worst hit.....Some dwindled down to less than 5 adults with many orphans children.
 
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exactly as a Pastor said using this passage from Peter as he said several times "honor the emperor"


13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.


Pastor said "we can disagree, we don't have to like it but we're going to honor the emperor"
I'll listen again to write more of what Pastor said
What if this pastor read the following scripture and demanded that it be followed today, verbatim:

"34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

Would you praise his teaching and understanding of scripture? Or is this something we only do for passages that support what we already believe?
 
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