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When will this medical dictatorship end? Or is this just the beginning?

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i'm sick and tired of Covid restriction, talk and politics. All you ever hear is Covid this and Covid that. And people attacking each other already about vaccines before the vaccine is out even. Those who trust God with their health are persecuted like never before by those who don't have no trust in God at all.

i hate the world we live in. Absolutely hate it. And i know it is only going to get worse.
 

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I sense something demonic about all this stuff.

We know that the final Babylon of the bible will be the home for all unclean spirits. Their whole design is devilish.

Revelation 18:2b
“‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’
She has become a dwelling for demons
and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,

a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
"
 
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i'm sick and tired of Covid restriction, talk and politics. All you ever hear is Covid this and Covid that. And people attacking each other already about vaccines before the vaccine is out even. Those who trust God with their health are persecuted like never before by those who don't have no trust in God at all.

i hate the world we live in. Absolutely hate it. And i know it is only going to get worse.
Wait until we get a slate-wiper pandemic. Like maybe the mystery fever thing in India that started about two days ago. Or Ebola coming out again and getting away. This is a political disease, used to defeat a president. It still needs to be used to defeat two Senators in the Georgia runoff election. Then it can go away. A slate-wiper will go beyond politics pretty fast. But it will involve martial law in a way that has made this pandemic look trivial.
 
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Wait until we get a slate-wiper pandemic. Like maybe the mystery fever thing in India that started about two days ago. Or Ebola coming out again and getting away. This is a political disease, used to defeat a president. It still needs to be used to defeat two Senators in the Georgia runoff election. Then it can go away. A slate-wiper will go beyond politics pretty fast. But it will involve martial law in a way that has made this pandemic look trivial.

When it's 400,000 dead, will it still be 'political' to say we should try to prevent the spread?

The fires in California may be a useful analogy.

Is it ok for a state to ban fireworks and camp fires? Is that restriction to prevent extra wildfires something we should see as unjust?

Or is the restriction valid? Like the one against drunk driving.

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When it's 400,000 dead, will it still be 'political' to say we should try to prevent the spread?

The fires in California may be a useful analogy.

Is it ok for a state to ban fireworks and camp fires? Is that restriction to prevent extra wildfires something we should see as unjust?

Or is the restriction valid? Like the one against drunk driving.

@GOD Shines Forth!
@Jeshu

This thread is not to debate the issue but find others to give me support to deal with the depression aggravated by all of this.
 
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This thread is not to debate the issue but find others to give me support to deal with the depression aggravated by all of this.
ah. if anything in my post was unhelpful to change a perception for the better, just ignore it please.

I do think we are all tired of having to wear masks, and my only encouragement on that piece is that it's not forever, and we can begin to expect that to be over mid year.
 
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i'm sick and tired of Covid restriction, talk and politics. All you ever hear is Covid this and Covid that. And people attacking each other already about vaccines before the vaccine is out even. Those who trust God with their health are persecuted like never before by those who don't have no trust in God at all.

i hate the world we live in. Absolutely hate it. And i know it is only going to get worse.
I know Jeshu, I'm so over it myself, but unfortunately this may be with us some time yet, then what will come after that? We have to remember the evil one is the Prince of this world and we can't expect an easy ride until Christ returns. Hang on tight to your Bible and keep strong in prayer. It's through the tough times that we turn to God most earnestly.
 
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When it's 400,000 dead, will it still be 'political' to say we should try to prevent the spread?

The fires in California may be a useful analogy.

Is it ok for a state to ban fireworks and camp fires? Is that restriction to prevent extra wildfires something we should see as unjust?

Or is the restriction valid? Like the one against drunk driving.
Oh, it's a real disease, but the politicians have made a lot of hay with it. And they will make more hay with the vaccines. We should want to stop spreading it. I see people every day that can't bring themselves to wear a mask correctly, who may as well wear them on their elbows. No wonder one in seven Americans have now caught this disease.
 
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I know Jeshu, I'm so over myself, but unfortunately this may be with us some time yet, then what will come after that? We have to remember the evil one is the Prince of this world and we can't expect an easy ride until Christ returns.

i agree! but don't you mourn? Mourn the old times when this was unimaginable? We received a new grand daughter in Canada, just last month, we can't even plan for a visit, if they are going to enforce vaccination maybe we never see them this side of the grave again.

i cursed the devil and his plans and asked God to bind him on this earth to his domain alone. Let Jesus separate the sheep from the goats.

Revelation 13:10 "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed.” This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people."
 
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ah. if anything in my post was unhelpful to change a perception for the better, just ignore it please.

I do think we are all tired of having to wear masks, and my only encouragement on that piece is that it's not forever, and we can begin to expect that to be over mid year.
We're all tired of it. And when you get tired and inattentive you get sloppy and take unnecessary chances. It's worse now than in April and May and everybody is bored to tears with it and rebelling against da rulz. It feels like a dictatorship, even if it is a soft dictatorship.
 
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i agree! but don't you mourn? Mourn the old times when this was unimaginable?
We were born for these times and we all have something good to offer.
We received a new grand daughter in Canada, just last month, we can't even plan for a visit, if they are going to enforce vaccination maybe we never see them this side of the grave again.
Don't give up. There are many vaccines in the pipelines. Some will be better than others.
Revelation 13:10 "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed.” This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people."
Yup. Let us go on.
 
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i agree! but don't you mourn? Mourn the old times when this was unimaginable? We received a new grand daughter in Canada, just last month, we can't even plan for a visit, if they are going to enforce vaccination maybe we never see them this side of the grave again.

i cursed the devil and his plans and asked God to bind him on this earth to his domain alone. Let Jesus separate the sheep from the goats.

Revelation 13:10 "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed.” This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people."
Congratulations on the birth of your grand-daughter Jeshu! God bless her little soul.

Yes, I do mourn for the old times in so many ways, it's not only covid that is plaguing our world, but general immorality which has become rampant in our society - and that's probably why we got this pandemic in the first place.

Don't worry Jeshu, I believe this pandemic will be over in the next year and hopefully you can go to Canada to visit your grand-daughter. I certainly hope they don't force people to have their vaccination. I believe that when the pandemic is gone things will settle down and return to pre-covid times.
 
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i'm sick and tired of Covid restriction, talk and politics. All you ever hear is Covid this and Covid that. And people attacking each other already about vaccines before the vaccine is out even. Those who trust God with their health are persecuted like never before by those who don't have no trust in God at all.

i hate the world we live in. Absolutely hate it. And i know it is only going to get worse.

Make your home a fortress,

If all you ever hear is covid, don't at least let it inside the walls of your home.

Give yorself a break, we do not need TV, radio or newspapers,

Though a lot of lonely people see TV as sort of company,

Got it, but, no one is forced to watch what they do not like.

It does not take away the world outside, but it makes it good to come home.

Thanks for your post and for expressing your feelings just now.

One God and two worlds.
 
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Make your home a fortress,

If all you ever hear is covid, don't at least let it inside the walls of your home.

Give yorself a break, we do not need TV, radio or newspapers,

Though a lot of lonely people see TV as sort of company,

Got it, but, no one is forced to watch what they do not like.

It does not take away the world outside, but it makes it good to come home.

Thanks for your post and for expressing your feelings just now.

One God and two worlds.



i don't watch TV, or read the newspaper, i stopped doing that many years ago. i suffer from a depressive illness the media made it much worse, Church as well so that is a real bummer. But the hush about Covid is all around, people are scared when you walk in the street or stand in a store. Hardly anyone greets anyone. The internet is full of it, very censored, and very untrue.

i truly dislike it when people walking around like criminals with their masks on, looking down on me because i don't.
i reckon some people would crawl on their bellies if the experts told them that is the best way to stay free from Covid.

The fear is the worst. You can almost cut it at times that is how thick some people lay it on.

And sure when you love your life and you have a bad immune system or other ailment that makes you more likely to die from Covid, you fear, and take measures to isolate, but otherwise it is all just a big scare as far as i'm concerned.

Covid is a nasty flu and we do need to take care we don't visit anyone when we are infected but locking people basically up in their homes for months on end without visitors, like they did to my 91 year father keeping him from seeing our 86 year old mother, is cruel and not healthy either. We need to remain fair and give everyone the opportunity without forcing anyone to do anything against basic human rights. Unlike is happening now.

Why can our country just ignore its constitution that was drawn up to protect us citizens from medical experiments? Why is the Government suddenly above the law and able to make their own laws in contradiction to them? All because of a nasty flu all blown up to mega proportions.

And no matter how much i hate it, it wont go away.
 
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This thread is not to debate the issue but find others to give me support to deal with the depression aggravated by all of this.

Have you seen doctor for depression counseling and medication or are you just relying on God with this ?
 
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i don't watch TV, or read the newspaper, i stopped doing that many years ago. i suffer from a depressive illness the media made it much worse, Church as well so that is a real bummer. But the hush about Covid is all around, people are scared when you walk in the street or stand in a store. Hardly anyone greets anyone. The internet is full of it, very censored, and very untrue.

i truly dislike it when people walking around like criminals with their masks on, looking down on me because i don't.
i reckon some people would crawl on their bellies if the experts told them that is the best way to stay free from Covid.

The fear is the worst. You can almost cut it at times that is how thick some people lay it on.

And sure when you love your life and you have a bad immune system or other ailment that makes you more likely to die from Covid, you fear, and take measures to isolate, but otherwise it is all just a big scare as far as i'm concerned.

Covid is a nasty flu and we do need to take care we don't visit anyone when we are infected but locking people basically up in their homes for months on end without visitors, like they did to my 91 year father keeping him from seeing our 86 year old mother, is cruel and not healthy either. We need to remain fair and give everyone the opportunity without forcing anyone to do anything against basic human rights. Unlike is happening now.

Why can our country just ignore its constitution that was drawn up to protect us citizens from medical experiments? Why is the Government suddenly above the law and able to make their own laws in contradiction to them? All because of a nasty flu all blown up to mega proportions.

And no matter how much i hate it, it wont go away.

I understand what you saying.

However smart we think we are it only takes an invisible virus to cause panick stations, and the house of cards collapses.

But, as they say, "It'll be allright on the night."

Tomorrow night we light the first light. (Chanukah)

Not to mean it will drive covid away,

but with trust it will drive fear away.

But why wait
 
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Have you seen doctor for depression counseling and medication or are you just relying on God with this ?

No i use medication and i have had extensive counselling. It did help. But the cycles of depression have never stopped, less deep perhaps at times but at times enough to floor me. It has little to do with my mind set, i can be thankful and joyful in my faith and still be depressed like anything. It seems physical to me. My body gets sick and then the depression is because of that.

The doctors have searched for years to find medications that could help me better but have been unable to help me more than this.

So in reality i rely on God. He never leaves me. He is there daily to support me against the attacks of the wicked. i have sure learned to appreciate Him. There is nothing like His word guiding my mind when i'm rock bottom. Medications don't take it away from me but His love sure supports me going through my valleys.

Peace.
 
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Tomorrow night we light the first light. (Chanukah)

Cool! The feast of lights, dedication if i remember right. The second temple inauguration had to do with it but otherwise i don't know the story of Chanukah. They say it comes out of the Meccabees.

How do you celebrate it?
 
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