The 2 Beasts with The harlot

Davy · Dec 6, 2020

This subject of the Babylon Harlot in Revelation seems to be one of the most difficult Bible chapters in Revelation for many, because of so many symbols about the idea of the 2 beasts in relation to the "great harlot", the Babylon Harlot. No problem if we really stick to God's Word as written though, and get those symbols in our mind, and take some time to digest what John was shown and told. It is this Revelation that helps us identity where ground zero will be on earth for the beast at the end of this world.

Rev 17
17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters:

If you recall about the 1st beast of Revelation 13:1-2, it has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. It's about a kingdom, a system over the earth, and it comes up out of the "sea". Later in Rev.17 we are told these "waters" represent "peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues". This "great harlot" is first introduced here, and it sits upon those "waters" that represent nations and peoples, so already that shows us the harlot represents a seat of power upon the earth.

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

That is a direct connection of the "great harlot" sitting over the 1st beast kingdom of Rev.13:1 that has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. This 1st beast of Rev.13:1 that shes sits upon is scarlet colored, which is the color of royalty, and thus points to the 1st beast she sits upon as a kingdom. But she isn't that beast, so we have to remember to keep those symbols separate.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

This woman is decked out in royal colors, and jewels, which are signs she represents a queen. Her symbolic fornication as the "great harlot" represents the "abominations" in her cup. Exactly what are "abominations" per the Old Testament histories anyway?

Per God's Word in the law of Moses, and throughout Old Testament history, an abomination meant anything that was taboo and against God's commandments and laws. It involved especially pagan idolatry and sacrifices to devils, sexual immorality, especially using sexual fertility as a form of religious worship. It also involved sacrificing one's children in the fire, which Judah was sucked into by the prophets of Baal at one time. And it especially involved the placing of an idol in Jerusalem in the temple in place of worship of our Heavenly Father in that time.

That's a lot of info this "abominations and filthiness of her fornication" is pointing to back in Old Testament history, but it's obvious Lord Jesus wants us to form that picture in our mind about where this "great harlot" idea is coming from. And you want to know one of the biggest lies and tricks Satan's children have played upon God's people about this "great harlot"? by their telling a lie and saying this "great harlot" is about the Christian Church. That is a lie from the children of darkness, so don't you ever believe it brethren. This Rev.17 chapter will eventually reveal that lie, and point to what this "great harlot" is.

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

That is the strongest symbol given in this Rev.17 chapter so far. That Babylon Harlot is definitely a mystery to most, but not to those of us in Christ Jesus who listen to Him in His Word, for He has shown us what the battle has been about since the days of Adam, and who the battle is with, i.e., with Satan and his servants, for that is who has been behind all the abominations of the earth, either directly or indirectly through his servants that hide as wolves among God's people as sheep. That is why this verse covers the harlot's drunkenness with the blood of the saints (including Old Testament saints), and the martyrs of Jesus (since New Covenant times and forward). So this "MYSTERY" covers a long span of time brethren, not just for the end of this world. That mystery will be revealed by the end of this Rev.17 chapter.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Again, we are to keep this "woman" symbol, the "great harlot" of the first verse, as a separate symbol from the beast symbols of Rev.13. She sits upon the beast, and the beast carries her, but she is not this beast. Here again, Lord Jesus has given us another link to this beast she sits upon as the 1st beast of Rev.13:1, a kingdom beast that has seven heads and ten horns. He is repeating that link from Rev.17:3. When Lord Jesus does that, you know it means special emphasis. He wants us to especially mark that idea in the mind.

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Davy · Dec 6, 2020

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8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

This is where one must pay close attention to what Rev.13 showed about the 2 different beasts, the 1st as a kingdom, and the 2nd one as a person, the Antichrist that works miracles to deceive.

This particular beast is about the 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 that comes up out of the earth, a person, the Antichrist that works miracles making fire rain down from heaven in the sight of men, and comes appearing with two horns like a lamb (Jesus), but speaks as a dragon (Satan). Who else would be ascending up out of the bottomless pit? Certainly not a kingdom beast with ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns.

Pay attention to those symbols in this Rev.17:8 verse, lot of info Lord Jesus gives there. Already we know this is about the "another beast" of Rev.13 that comes up out of the earth, and works miracles on earth to deceive men in plain sight. But we're also given a connection with the time "from the foundation of the world", so what's that about? That is there to point us back in time, way... back in time, to before this present world, even before the time of Adam and Eve in God's Garden!

Essentially, it is pointing directly to Satan, and the old world when God chose His elect and wrote their names in the book of life from the foundation of THIS present world. I know, that's a mouthful, but you can count on that being how far back in time Lord Jesus is pointing us to. What exactly was it that Satan did in that old world, for the parable in Ezekiel 28 about him as the "anointed cherub that covereth" shows he originally followed God, and served Him as a covering cherub to guard the Mercy Seat, God's Throne? What did Satan do to fall from Heaven?

Satan coveted God's Throne for himself, wanting to be The GOD. Satan rebelled. And per Revelation 12:3-4, we are told that he drew a third of the angels ("stars") into rebellion with him, and it involved a beast kingdom that had ten horns, seven heads, but only seven crowns. The Ezekiel 31 chapter involves another parable about Satan in that time of old before he rebelled against God, of how he was once exalted over all the trees in God's Garden of Eden. And then he fell.

That... is when God assigned Satan and those angels that rebelled with him, to perish in the future "lake of fire". This is why God showed us at the end of Isaiah 30 that symbolic Tophet (put for the "lake of fire") is "ordained of old" (Isaiah 30:33; see also Matthew 25:41).

How does this fit with that idea of this beast John sees that "was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition"? We know it's Satan that ascends up out of the earth, i.e., out of the bottomless pit, for he is king over that pit per Revelation 9:11. He is this beast king that 'was', and 'is not', meaning it is not yet his time to come. And when he does ascend out of that pit in the last days, that is when the deceived will wonder at him, and who he is, because of the miracles he will do, and then that "and yet is" time will be fulfilled. But that's for our near future, and is what the coming tribulation is going to be about when he gets here. And we are not to fear but be strong in the Faith.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Lord Jesus is doing some switching of beast symbols here. Now this is about the beast kingdom, the 1st beast of Rev.13 involving the "sea", and the "waters" that the "great harlot" sits upon. We learn the "seven heads" are actually "seven mountains". (No, the mountains is not another... symbol here, it's an explanation of the "seven heads" symbol. So don't let Satan play games with your head. Lord Jesus is showing John the meaning of the heads.) The seven mountains point to areas upon the earth, locations. Do you remember about the "deadly wound" we are told happened upon one of the "seven heads", and when the dragon comes it gets healed? (Revelation 13:3, 12). We were told when the world sees this beast for the end, it will wonder at this beast too.

The Rev.17:8 verse just covered the idea of the 2nd beast that 'was', and 'is not', and when he comes 'yet is'. With John as the pivot in time looking at that, it means past, present in John's day, and yet future. Some time in the past that 2nd beast was, but in John's 'is not' (not come yet), but some time after John's day, that beast 'yet is'. Do I really need to spell this out anymore? Satan playing the beast king, the 2nd beast idea of Rev.13, 'was' in that world of old when he first rebelled in wanting to be GOD. Our Heavenly Father and His Son ended that old world. Satan in that beast king role then 'is not'. But for the future, 'yet is'. You get the idea? Satan is coming to earth, to our dimension, just like Lord Jesus warned us in John 14:30.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

John is further shown this 2nd beast king concept. Five beast kings were already past history to John's day. A look at Old Testament history reveals the main old empires of Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, Medo-Persia, Grecia. The "one is", a 6th beast king, was represented by the old Roman empire in John's day, which was emperor Domitian. The 7th one is still yet to come in our day. When he comes, he will only have "a short space". That is about the coming Antichrist in our near future at the end of this present world. That short space is about the devil when he is cast down upon this earth for the last days knowing he only has a "short time" to deceive at the end of this world per Revelation 12:7-12.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Again, this beast is the beast king, the 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 that speaks as a dragon, because he is the dragon, another title for Satan himself. He will come to work those miracles. Satan is 'of' the 7 beast kings, meaning he is behind all of those movements of a beast king trying to be God upon this earth, and God destroying those kingdoms to once again show there is only one GOD, and there is no other. Since the 7th beast king is not yet today, and is reserved for the very end of this world, then who is this 8th beast king? Recall that at the end of the "thousand years" of Christ's reign in Rev.20, that Satan is loosed out of his chains in his pit prison, to go and deceive the nations of unsaved one last time. That is when he will play his 8th beast king role. Then immediately after that, we are shown he will go into perdition to the "lake of fire".

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13: These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Now we're back onto the beast kingdom, the 1st beast of Rev.13:1. The ten horns of the 1st beast represent 'ten kings'. Easy peasy, just like the seven heads are seven mountains or locations upon the earth. Those ten kings all reign concurrently at the same time. We learn they will receive their power "one hour" with the beast. Which beast? The beast king. This is the same pattern given in the Book of Daniel about the final beast kingdom and beast king. Ten horns arrive, and among them comes up a "little horn". The "little horn" thus represents the Antichrist beast king for the end of this world.

What about this "one hour" idea? Where's that coming from in God's Word? Do you recall Lord Jesus' parable about the laborers in the field, how those who worked all day complained about those who worked just "one hour", but got the same pay? (Matthew 20:1-16) Do you recall the parable of the ten virgins, and how all ten slept, and at midnight they were told the Bridegroom cometh? What hour is it prior to the midnight hour? The 11th hour of course. That 11th hour before midnight when they all fell asleep would represent the "one hour" at the end just prior to Christ's return, wouldn't it? You get the idea, the simplicity in God's Word surely. Do you recall Jesus saying this to His disciples just prior to His being delivered up...

Matt 26:40-41
40 And He cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, "What, could ye not watch with Me one hour?
41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."
KJV

Did you notice the subject change above? He found them sleeping, and then brought up the subject of watching and praying, and not entering into temptation. How they gonna' do that while they were sleeping? Didn't you ever find those verse connections kind of strange why Lord Jesus would say that while they were asleep? Per our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse of Mark 13, He commanded us to 'watch', meaning to watch the Signs He gave there for the end leading up to His return. Lord Jesus was teaching, even with that event of His disciples fallen asleep. It's the same metaphor as with the ten virgins that fell asleep at the last hour just before midnight, like, "could ye not watch with Me one hour?" Can you, brethren?

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Davy · Dec 6, 2020

Rev.17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

In Revelation 13:4-8 we are told the "dragon" will be given power for 42 months over the saints. This shows Lord Jesus' time of return at the end of that, and points out just who will remain in Him, only those who are called, chosen, and faithful. When He does return then, will He find Faith on the earth? Yes, among His elect servants who remain Faithful waiting on Him and do not fall away to the "dragon" who comes first to play a fake-Messiah.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Here's the clear definition of the "waters" the "great harlot" sits upon. The waters represent peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues, basically the whole earth. So what is that "great harlot", the Babylon Harlot? We're getting closer.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil His will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The ten kings are part of the 1st beast, making up a kingdom. They will hate the "great harlot"? Who is she then, for that makes it clear she is not the beast? The ten kings basically attack her, but in the spiritual sense. And our Heavenly Father wills all this to happen for the end? Yes, which is especially why we need to truly understand it, as He has revealed it to His servants.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
KJV

Finally! Now we know what that "great harlot", the Babylon Harlot, really represents! It is a "great city"! What "great city" though?

Rev 11:7-8
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV

That "great city" is about Jerusalem, where our Lord Jesus was crucified! Surely Lord Jesus doesn't mean Jerusalem as the "great harlot" and Babylon Harlot of Revelation, does He???

Yes, He does mean JERUSALEM FOR THE END OF THIS WORLD...

Brethren, have you not read Ezekiel 16 of what God said about the city of Jebus under the pagans? Jerusalem was called Jebus when the pagans possessed it prior to king David conquering it and it being named Jerusalem. Ezekiel 16 then continues about Jerusalem's history with the children of Israel, and how many times they allowed pagan idolatry to creep in and make Jerusalem become a 'harlot' city! God uses strong metaphors there about a harlot that He found in a ditch, all bloodied and sort, and He cleansed her, adorned her with beautiful clothing and jewels, and He then covered her with His skirt (an OT symbol for marriage consummation). But she became a HARLOT! and went after her lovers from Baal, etc. That is what He is going to allow for Jerusalem at the very end of this world for the tribulation. Satan is coming there to play the beast king at Jerusalem, making her spiritually desolate, and as the "great harlot" of Ezekiel 16!

In Revelation 18, the "great harlot" says this about herself...

Rev 18:7
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, "I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow."
KJV

She says about herself, "I sit a queen, and am no widow...". That is metaphorical, so what does it mean? Remember the purple and scarlet she is decked with per the early part of Rev.17? She represents Jerusalem, that sits as a harlot queen, and she says she is not a widow? In Isaiah 47 and Isaiah 54, God used the idea of 'widowhood' for both the historical Babylon, and also about Jerusalem. In the Isaiah 54 version, it is about relief of Jerusalem's widowhood condition with His return to earth. It's because God showed in Ezekiel 16 that He married Jerusalem, but then put her away.

And the big question of what she said about not being a 'widow' means, she is married. But not to God, because until Jesus returns, Jerusalem is in a state of spiritual widowhood! So who is she married to when these ten kings and beast king come to power at the end of this world for "one hour"? Well, who is the "dragon" of Revelation 12 and Revelation 13:11?

ewq1938 · Dec 6, 2020

Davy said:
and comes appearing with two horns like a lamb

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

These horns are little horns of a young lamb which is a direct reference to the little horn Daniel wrote of who is also the one we know as the Antichrist.

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Diminutive from G704; a lambkin: - lamb.
Total KJV occurrences: 30

A lambkin is the young child form of an adult lamb and this it's horns are "little".

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two LITTLE horns like a YOUNG lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

That should automatically make someone think of the little horn in Daniel.

ewq1938 · Dec 6, 2020

Most of these posts are really great stuff. Very rare to see someone who knows the first beast of Revelation 13 is not the AC. However, I do not think Jerusalem is Babylon. Surely it is full of people who reject Christ now, and will be the city the AC rules from when it's spiritually Sodom and Egypt BUT in Revelation 11 it is called the "holy city" despite it's various issues. I think Babylon is a far larger symbolic city which represents false religion and those who belong to it which naturally is more than just Jerusalem. While Revelation has Babylon being destroyed by fire, the city of Jerusalem is not burned. It suffers 1/3 damage from an earthquake but is never said to burn like Babylon is described.

Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Babylon is found no more at all yet Jerusalem still stands and is occupied at the end of the thousand years when Satan leads an army to surround it.

Certainly Jerusalem is part of Babylon as the whole world is but Babylon is a far greater concept.

Jerusalem: one city in a world controlled by Babylon.
Babylon: the whole world deceived into worshiping the false god, Antichrist.

Davy · Dec 6, 2020

ewq1938 said:
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

These horns are little horns of a young lamb which is a direct reference to the little horn Daniel wrote of who is also the one we know as the Antichrist.

G721
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Diminutive from G704; a lambkin: - lamb.
Total KJV occurrences: 30

A lambkin is the young child form of an adult lamb and this it's horns are "little".

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two LITTLE horns like a YOUNG lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

That should automatically make someone think of the little horn in Daniel.

No, the Book of Daniel refers to a 'single' "little horn", not two.

Dan 7:7-8
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
KJV

We are also shown what that "little horn" does, i.e., "a mouth speaking great things", which links to the one in Revelation 13:6-7...

Dan 7:20-21
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
KJV

That "little horn" is the one the ten kings reign "one hour" with per Rev.17:12-14.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 6, 2020

Davy said:
Rev.17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

In Revelation 13:4-8 we are told the "dragon" will be given power for 42 months over the saints. This shows Lord Jesus' time of return at the end of that, and points out just who will remain in Him, only those who are called, chosen, and faithful. When He does return then, will He find Faith on the earth? Yes, among His elect servants who remain Faithful waiting on Him and do not fall away to the "dragon" who comes first to play a fake-Messiah.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Here's the clear definition of the "waters" the "great harlot" sits upon. The waters represent peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues, basically the whole earth. So what is that "great harlot", the Babylon Harlot? We're getting closer.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil His will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The ten kings are part of the 1st beast, making up a kingdom. They will hate the "great harlot"? Who is she then, for that makes it clear she is not the beast? The ten kings basically attack her, but in the spiritual sense. And our Heavenly Father wills all this to happen for the end? Yes, which is especially why we need to truly understand it, as He has revealed it to His servants.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
KJV

Finally! Now we know what that "great harlot", the Babylon Harlot, really represents! It is a "great city"! What "great city" though?

Rev 11:7-8
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV

That "great city" is about Jerusalem, where our Lord Jesus was crucified! Surely Lord Jesus doesn't mean Jerusalem as the "great harlot" and Babylon Harlot of Revelation, does He???

Yes, He does mean JERUSALEM FOR THE END OF THIS WORLD...

Brethren, have you not read Ezekiel 16 of what God said about the city of Jebus under the pagans? Jerusalem was called Jebus when the pagans possessed prior to king David conquering it and it being named Jerusalem. Ezekiel 16 then continues about Jerusalem's history with the children of Israel, and how many times they allowed pagan idolatry to creep in and make Jerusalem become a 'harlot' city! God uses strong metaphors there about a harlot that He found in a ditch, all bloodied and sort, and He cleansed her, adorned her with beautiful clothing and jewels, and He then covered her with His skirt (an OT symbol for marriage consummation). But she became a HARLOT! and went after her lovers from Baal, etc. That is what He is going to allow for Jerusalem at the very end of this world for the tribulation. Satan is coming there to play the beast king at Jerusalem, making her spiritually desolate, and as the "great harlot" of Ezekiel 16!

In Revelation 18, the "great harlot" says this about herself...

Rev 18:7
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, "I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow."
KJV

She says about herself, "I sit a queen, and am no widow...". That is metaphorical, so what does it mean? Remember the purple and scarlet she is decked with per the early part of Rev.17? She represents Jerusalem, that sits as a harlot queen, and she says she is not a widow? In Isaiah 47 and Isaiah 54, God used the idea of 'widowhood' for both the historical Babylon, and also about Jerusalem. In the Isaiah 54 version, it is about relief of Jerusalem's widowhood condition with His return to earth. It's because God showed in Ezekiel 16 that He married Jerusalem, but then put her away.

And the big question of what she said about not being a 'widow' means, she is married. But not to God, because until Jesus returns, Jerusalem is in a state of spiritual widowhood! So who is she married to when these ten kings and beast king come to power at the end of this world? Well, who is the "dragon" of Revelation 12 and Revelation 13:11?

Your OP is Catholic propaganda,

A WOMAN in bible prophecy represents a faithful or unfaithful Church...

*WOMAN PURE = God's people faithful (Jeremiah 6:2; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:23-27; Revelation 12:17)

*WOMAN harlot = God's people unfaithful to God fornicator, adulteress, unfaithful or false religion (Isaiah 1:21-27; Jeremiah 3:1-3; 6-9; Ezekiel 16:15-58; 23:2-21; Hosea 2:5; 3:1; Revelations 14:4)

*MOTHER OF HARLOTS = Gives birth to unfaithful or false religion offspring and children just like the Mother..

WHO DOES BABYLON THE HARLOT WOMAN REPRESENT IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS?

REVELATION 14:8 [8], And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

NOTE: BABYLON is being portrayed here in REVELATION 14:8 as an UNFAITHFUL WOMAN.

Similar warnings and scriptures are also found in REVELATIONS 17:1-5 where BABYLON is described as an UNFAITHFUL WOMAN [HARLOT] sitting on the SCARLET COLORED BEAST which is connected to those receiving the MARK OF THE BEAST in REVELATIONS 14:9-10. While REVELATIONS 18:1-10 is a call for God’s people to come out of BABYLON that they do not receive the judgments of God which are connected to the BEASTS MARK. Let’s look at some of these scriputres.

REVELATIONS 17:1-5
[1], And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls, and talked with me, saying unto me, come here; I will show unto you the judgment of the GREAT HARLOT THAT SITS ON MANY WATERS:
[2], With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
[3], So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
[4], And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
[5], And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

NOTE: Here we have the WOMAN who is said to be a HARLOT that sits on many waters also a scarlot colored BEAST. This WOMEN HARLOT is named BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. These scriptures link directly to …

REVELATION 14:8 [8], And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

NOTE: BABYLON therefore in REVELATIONS represents a WOMAN that is the MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. A WOMAN in bible prophecy represents God’s professed people. A PURE WOMAN represents God’s true Church *JEREMAIAH 6:2; 2 CORINTHIANS 11:2; EPHESIANS 5:23-27, while an UNFAITHFUL WORMAN or HARLOT represents an APOSTATE CHURCH that is UNFAITHFUL to GOD and his WORD *EZEKIEL 16:15-58; 23:2-21; HOSEA 2:5; 3:1; REVELATION 14:4. Let’s look at the scriptures. Therefore, BABYLON that is connected that sits on the BEAST represents a CORRUPT RELIGIOUS POLITICAL POWER. It sits on many WATERS *REVELATION 17:1 which is symbolic of this CORRUPT RELIGIOUS POLITICAL POWER having influence over many people…

REVELATION 17:15, And he said unto me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

She commits FORNICATION with the KINGS of the EARTH which means this is as WORLD-WIDE RELIGIOUS movement *REVELATIONS 17:2

This WORLD-WIDE CORRUPT RELIGIOUS POWER IS ALSO SAID TO BE THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS. This is many CORRUPT RELIGIOUS CHURCHES have come out of BABYLON. Now BABYLON represents confusion it is a world-wide corrupt religious political Church that has influence with all the kings of the earth.

IMPORTANT NOTE: We need to stop here to make something clear before proceeding further in identifying who BABYLON represents. These scriptures are NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THESE CHURCHES! God has many of his people inside these corrupt Churches. How do we know this? Please pay attention to the following scriptures.

REVELATIONS 18:1-10
[1], And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was made bright with his glory.
[2], And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the haunt of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
[3], For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich through the abundance of her luxury.
[4], And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE, THAT YOU BE NOT PARTAKERS OF HER SINS, AND THAT YOU RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES.
[5], For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

God has his people in BABYLON which represents CORRUPT APOSTATE CHRISTIANITY. God’s WORD goes on to say…

JOHN 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one-fold, and one shepherd.

JOHN 4:21-24
[21], Jesus said unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour comes, when you shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
[22], You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
[23], But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him.
[24], God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

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CONCLUSION: God has his people in EVERY CHURCH. Not all these Churches are following God or his WORD. Not all these Churches are faithful to God or his WORD. It is not the people in these Churches that God hates and will send judgements to it is the Churches that lead his people away from his WORD to break his commandments. God has his people in all these Churches and is calling his true people out of these Churches to worship him and follow him in Spirit and in truth according to the WORD of GOD. It is because of his great love to us that before the judgments of God fall on these Churches, GOD will call his true followers OUT of these corrupt unfaithful Churches to follow him according to his WORD.

BABYLON represents the Mother Church; the Roman Catholic Church (not the people in it) and the fallen Protestant Churches (not the people) that have departed and become unfaithful to the pure Word of God. God has his people in every Church and loves them all. He is calling them out to worship him in Spirit and in truth according to his Word.

Jerusalem has not reigned over the kings of the earth.

Hope this helps.

Davy · Dec 6, 2020

ewq1938 said:
Most of these posts are really great stuff. Very rare to see someone who knows the first beast of Revelation 13 is not the AC. However, I do not think Jerusalem is Babylon. Surely it is full of people who reject Christ now, and will be the city the AC rules from when it's spiritually Sodom and Egypt BUT in Revelation 11 it is called the "holy city" despite it's various issues. I think Babylon is a far larger symbolic city which represents false religion and those who belong to it which naturally is more than just Jerusalem. While Revelation has Babylon being destroyed by fire, the city of Jerusalem is not burned. It suffers 1/3 damage from an earthquake but is never said to burn like Babylon is described.

Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Babylon is found no more at all yet Jerusalem still stands and is occupied at the end of the thousand years when Satan leads an army to surround it.

Certainly Jerusalem is part of Babylon as the whole world is but Babylon is a far greater concept.

Jerusalem: one city in a world controlled by Babylon.
Babylon: the whole world deceived into worshiping the false god, Antichrist.

Jerusalem is shown to be the Babylon Harlot "great city" because it is where the "dragon" plans to setup his false kingdom for the end. Remember, the first sin was by Satan in the old world when he coveted God's throne. Well, Jerusalem is where God has chosen forever to dwell. That's why Satan wants it. And at the end of Rev.17, we are told these events are part of God's Will, so He is allowing His Jerusalem to be in a fallen state at the end of this world, to make His Point for those to whom the delusion will be upon.

Davy · Dec 6, 2020

LoveGodsWord said:
Your OP is Catholic propaganda,
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I'm not a Catholic.

I was raised in the Protestant Church. As a matter of fact, my ancestors from France were Huguenots, the first French Protestants. My ancestors escaped the Catholic persecutions in France by migrating to England, and then to the American colonies.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 6, 2020

Davy said:
I'm not a Catholic.

I was raised in the Protestant Church. As a matter of fact, my ancestors from France were Huguenots, the first French Protestants. My ancestors escaped the Catholic persecutions in France by migrating to England, and then to the American colonies.

Yet your promoting teachings that are from BABYLON. This is only a distraction in order to hide who the real harlot of Revelation is and her daughter harlots as described in Revelation 14:6-12; Revelation 17:1-5 and Revelation 18:1-5. Have you considered these chapters in full dear friend? More info here linked.

ewq1938 · Dec 6, 2020

Davy said:
No, the Book of Daniel refers to a 'single' "little horn", not two.

Of course but the similar language connects the two passages from Daniel and Revelation. The little horn is the AC in Daniel and the false prophet with two little horns is the AC in Revelation.

timothyu · Dec 6, 2020

The Pope signed on with the World Economic Forum the other day, joining ranks with many prominent rabbis in giving credibility to the new un-elected corporate/state world government over all nations, promoting itself as what could be described as the long awaited saviour of mankind. A re-affirmation of a time 1700 years ago when the church broadsided Jesus and His Gospel of the Kingdom, abandoning representation of a counter-culture where God's governance was taught to be over the governance of mankind. As a result, the church accepted partnership to harlot itself as a tool of the governance of man, eventually taking over to become a king maker itself, merrily building their own kingdoms to this day, that is until a wound set them back and they were no longer king makers. Now the wound has healed and the two (religion and state) are in partnership again, and as a result the Kingdom/governance of God has once again been shunned. Welcome to the last system, a global event.

Marilyn C · Dec 6, 2020

The Leaders come & go but the beast comprises - lion, Eagle, bear, leopard (& will finally be deceived by the terrifying beast - Islam).

The UN with its moral laws of tolerance. respect, inclusiveness etc is the motivation that all the leaders love to emotionally put guilt upon their citizens and give them more power. The UN is the religious aspect of Babylon. The actual city will be the economic centre of the world.

Davy · Dec 7, 2020

ewq1938 said:
Of course but the similar language connects the two passages from Daniel and Revelation. The little horn is the AC in Daniel and the false prophet with two little horns is the AC in Revelation.

One could consider the two horns symbol to represent the "another beast" (Antichrist) and the "false prophet", if that's what you're saying. But I see the main pointer with that in Rev.13:11 being about a mimic of Messiah by the coming Antichrist.

Douggg · Dec 7, 2020

Davy said:
But I see the main pointer with that in Rev.13:11 being about a mimic of Messiah by the coming Antichrist.

The Antichrist will be the King of Israel/messiah coming in his own name.

But Revelation 13:11 is not him.

To mimic the messiah, i.e. the Christ, a person has to be the King of Israel.

To mimic Jesus as Savior to the world, the person has to present some plan of salvation from the power of death - which the first beast will do, to get everyone to worship him.

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The Jews will think the prince who shall come is their long awaited messiah, and the person will be anointed the King of Israel, but comes in his own name. All of that takes place in the first half of the seven years.

The second half of the seven years, the person will have been shown to be a bust, no longer worthy of being thought of as the messiah by the Jews. Antichrist time over.

He will be killed, brought back to life - as the first beast in Revelation 13, him personally as the mortally wounded but healed head. The ten kings to rule with him, with their crowns, will hand their EU kingdom over to him, to be dictator.

timothyu · Dec 7, 2020

Davy said:
But I see the main pointer with that in Rev.13:11 being about a mimic of Messiah by the coming Antichrist.

Which is happening now in an un-elected body promoting itself as a saviour using environment and now health to sway the people. A worldly messiah like the Jews once looked for rather than the Christ who was right in front of them.

Davy · Dec 7, 2020

Douggg said:
The Antichrist will be the King of Israel/messiah coming in his own name.

But Revelation 13:11 is not him.

To mimic the messiah, i.e. the Christ, a person has to be the King of Israel.

To mimic Jesus as Savior to the world, the person has to present some plan of salvation from the power of death - which the first beast will do, to get everyone to worship him.

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The Jews will think the prince who shall come is their long awaited messiah, and the person will be anointed the King of Israel, but comes in his own name. All of that takes place in the first half of the seven years.

The second half of the seven years, the person will have been shown to be a bust, no longer worthy of being thought of as the messiah by the Jews. Antichrist time over.

He will be killed, brought back to life - as the first beast in Revelation 13, him personally as the mortally wounded but healed head. The ten kings to rule with him, with their crowns, will hand their EU kingdom over to him, to be dictator.

I think you are confused. The 1st beast is a beast kingdom, not a person. It is to have ten horns which are ten kings, and seven heads which are seven mountains. That is not the Antichrist, nor a person, nor a worker of miracles.

The "another beast" of Revelation 13:11 forward is a 2nd beast, and he is a person, the Antichrist, and works miracles. He is the beast king over the 1st beast kingdom. The Revelation 13:12 easily reveals this.

timothyu · Dec 7, 2020

Douggg said:
To mimic Jesus as Savior to the world, the person has to present some plan of salvation from the power of death - which the first beast will do, to get everyone to worship him.

Yes, but remember the power of death is short sighted to the worldly who only see extended life through environment and health as being defeating death. There is no afterlife in their vision, simply because the Adversary has no place in the Kingdom, unlike his presence in earth, so his minions likewise see no Kingdom other than their own. Look to building back better, a global battle cry at the moment, as this first plan of salvation. Man's idea of salvation inevitably always ends up as oppression.

Davy · Dec 7, 2020

timothyu said:
Which is happening now in an un-elected body promoting itself as a saviour using environment and now health to sway the people. A worldly messiah like the Jews once looked for rather than the Christ who was right in front of them.

God's Word is clear that a certain Antichrist person will come, and he will proclaim himself as God, over all that is called God, or that is worshiped, and that he will work lying wonders and signs. He is the same pseudo-Christ that Jesus warned of in His Olivet discourse coming to work great signs and wonders that if possible, would deceive even Christ's very elect. He is the same one of Rev.13 that will work miracles, making fire come down from heaven to the earth in sight of men.

So how far reaching will that coming Antichrist be?

All nations, except Christ's elect, will bow to that false one, thinking he is God.

So this is about a person doing those things, not a one-world government, though that is the power he will reign with over the earth.

timothyu · Dec 7, 2020

Davy said:
So this is about a person doing those things, not a one-world government, though that is the power he will reign with over the earth.

What I spoke of above and is happening now globally under the guidance of a handful of leaders, could fall sway to one being yes. But anti-Christ is a system, a system contrary to the system of the Kingdom. It has always been the system and ways of self serving man.

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