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Timtofly

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Erm.. I'm not sure that's what I said..

What I am saying is that although time itself (days/weeks/months hours/minutes/seconds) hasn't changed, the *actual* time has passed more rapidly.

Do you have a garden? I do, and plants are confused as heck as to what season it is supposed to be. I began harvesting raspberries in October and up until last week. In the UK. When my raspberries usually crop in spring. I have spring bulbs ready to flower, spring flowers in full bloom, my climbing rose and a rose in a flower pot next year are on about their fifth or sixth " show" of the year. I mowed the grass two weeks ago "for the last time this year" , I shall be mowing it again on Tuesday (weather permitting) because it's as long as it was 2 weeks ago. Nature is confused by something, if time was off-whack then that could easily explain why nature is confused.

Jesus says lest the days be shortened, but God states definite numbers in both Daniel and Revelation and God cannot state, for example, the beast is given 42 months and then only give him 38 months. God will stick to every number in the Word, guaranteed.. which means the only way for the days to be shortened would be the acceleration of time itself, it's the only logical conclusion. Neither God nor Jesus can lie yet God gives definitive numbers to Christ's "shortening" , if only one can be correct which is it?
If the plants are "acting" strange, what happens when the critters start? What if birth cycles speed up?
 
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People get so heated and dogmatic about eschatology. Why? The church in its wisdom has never stated what needed to be believed to be saved when it comes to eschatology and can you blame them.

Christ is coming back, Christ is reigning now, Christ is our all in all.

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If the plants are "acting" strange, what happens when the critters start? What if birth cycles speed up?

As I said Tim, it's time itself that appears to have accelerated not any one particular cycle within that time. Human births will still follow 40 weeks of pregnancy for the most part but those 40 weeks will pass more rapidly than 40 weeks did 20 years ago.
 
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People get so heated and dogmatic about eschatology. Why? The church in its wisdom has never stated what needed to be believed to be saved when it comes to eschatology and can you blame them.

Christ is coming back, Christ is reigning now, Christ is our all in all.

Yours in the Lord,

jm
True statements. But Jesus said to keep watch.(Mark 13:23 & 33) The Thessalonians were certainly concerned about it. I'm cool with other viewpoints as long as they don't change the Bible. The Apostasy=Rapture view is troubling to me. The Apostasy/Rebellion (2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3) and the revealing of the AC are linked. People won't recognize the AC when he arrives
 
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True statements. But Jesus said to keep watch.(Mark 13:23 & 33) The Thessalonians were certainly concerned about it. I'm cool with other viewpoints as long as they don't change the Bible. The Apostasy=Rapture view is troubling to me. The Apostasy/Rebellion (2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3) and the revealing of the AC are linked. People won't recognize the AC when he arrives
It is not the AC I am troubled about. It is the FP and Satan showing up on TV that will change religion if the Second Coming does not happen first. Any one can be president for a day, even Trump proved that point.
 
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As I said Tim, it's time itself that appears to have accelerated not any one particular cycle within that time. Human births will still follow 40 weeks of pregnancy for the most part but those 40 weeks will pass more rapidly than 40 weeks did 20 years ago.
How does that work with atomic clocks?
 
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It is not the AC I am troubled about. It is the FP and Satan showing up on TV that will change religion if the Second Coming does not happen first. Any one can be president for a day, even Trump proved that point.
Jesus said in the Olivet Discourse (Matt 24) that the "love of most will grow cold" "they will hate and betray each other" who else can this be but professing christians. Paul cites "the rebellion and revealing of the AC happens first" (2 Thess 2:1-3)
I don't see a Pre Trib rapture.
God used Cyrus, he can use Trump.
 
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