GDL
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So we can break down this passage into 10 points that show how faith, grace and works can be in harmony with one another in the Salvation process.
1- by grace we are saved
I like the work you've done here. I also like how you're working to harmonize concepts & how you've identified Salvation as a process. Nicely done!
Question for you and whoever else wants to chime in for discussion (although much has been discussed already): Should we be translating this point #1 as "by grace we are saved" or "by grace we have been saved" or does it matter - and why?
Some reasons for the question:
1. Since Salvation is a process, can we narrow down to some precision what Paul is talking about here re: Salvation?
2. It seems clear that Paul is saying here that our Salvation is by God's grace through faith, and not by our works, but in Phil2:12 Paul commands us to remain in obedience and work to accomplish our Salvation. How do we harmonize these 2 concepts re: our Salvation?
3. It would be nice to come to some conclusions about our works in relation to our Salvation and get past some of the battles on the topic, especially since this is such a battleground section of Scripture, and in this same document, a few chapters later in chapter 4, Paul is talking about unity in the adulthood of the Body of Christ.
Thanks for opening this thread!2. It seems clear that Paul is saying here that our Salvation is by God's grace through faith, and not by our works, but in Phil2:12 Paul commands us to remain in obedience and work to accomplish our Salvation. How do we harmonize these 2 concepts re: our Salvation?
3. It would be nice to come to some conclusions about our works in relation to our Salvation and get past some of the battles on the topic, especially since this is such a battleground section of Scripture, and in this same document, a few chapters later in chapter 4, Paul is talking about unity in the adulthood of the Body of Christ.
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