Pope 'confident' we will reach goal of shared Eucharist with Orthodox

Michie · Dec 1, 2020

Markie Boy said:
With the state of Catholicism with Francis, and bishops that seem not too motivated to clean house of abusers, I don’t know that anyone should be throwing stones much.

The East has much to be respected, including less deviation from the original.

Then maybe you should become Orthodox.

Markie Boy · Dec 1, 2020

Michie said:
Then maybe you should become Orthodox.

I have contemplated it. It just seems both sides have their good points, and both have some issues that seem very connected to pride.

Michie · Dec 1, 2020

Markie Boy said:
I have contemplated it. It just seems both sides have their good points, and both have some issues that seem very connected to pride.

Well Markie, you are not perfect either. But I’m admittedly losing patience with your only participation here being tearing down the faith and nothing else.

Markie Boy · Dec 1, 2020

Fair enough Michie - I will try to just stay away.

Michie · Dec 1, 2020

Markie Boy said:
Fair enough Michie - I will try to just stay away.

I’m not asking you to stay away but it would be nice to hear you discuss the things you appreciate about the faith as well. Prayers for you.

eastcoast_bsc · Dec 1, 2020

Markie Boy said:
Fair enough Michie - I will try to just stay away.

Markie in scripture our forbearers were no better. Peter denied Christ, Thomas doubted him and Judas betrayed him. If we think the church is going to be perfect then we are going to be constantly disappointed. All our leaders have feet of clay.

stay around.

SeraphimSarov · Dec 2, 2020

Michie said:
Let’s not start. You say you are Catholic. So who is heretical here?

I do not know what you are trying to say. It would appear you are questioning my faith and calling me a heretic. I hope I'm wrong.

Michie · Dec 2, 2020

SeraphimSarov said:
I do not know what you are trying to say. It would appear you are questioning my faith and calling me a heretic. I hope I'm wrong.

I thought I was pretty clear. Who is heretical? Catholic or Orthodox? I posted an article of Pope Francis’s hopes. I posted nothing about any heretical faiths to foster a hostile response.

Michie · Dec 4, 2020

Well, in this regard the Pope is adhering to a traditional Vatican policy:

Pope Francis told the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople Monday that he is confident that Catholics and Orthodox Christians will attain full communion.

In a message to Bartholomew I on the Feast of St. Andrew, Pope Francis praised the Ecumenical Patriarchate’s efforts to promote Christian unity.

“We can thank God that relations between the Catholic Church and the Ecumenical Patriarchate have grown much over the past century, even as we continue to yearn for the goal of the restoration of full communion expressed through participation at the same Eucharistic altar,” he wrote.

“Although obstacles remain, I am confident that by walking together in mutual love and pursuing theological dialogue, we will reach that goal.”

Go here to read the rest. The Orthodox aren’t interested and Rome keeps coming to them hat in hand.

https://the-american-catholic.com/2020/12/04/popewatch-unity-2/

chevyontheriver · Dec 4, 2020

Michie said:
Well, in this regard the Pope is adhering to a traditional Vatican policy:

Pope Francis told the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople Monday that he is confident that Catholics and Orthodox Christians will attain full communion.

In a message to Bartholomew I on the Feast of St. Andrew, Pope Francis praised the Ecumenical Patriarchate’s efforts to promote Christian unity.

“We can thank God that relations between the Catholic Church and the Ecumenical Patriarchate have grown much over the past century, even as we continue to yearn for the goal of the restoration of full communion expressed through participation at the same Eucharistic altar,” he wrote.

“Although obstacles remain, I am confident that by walking together in mutual love and pursuing theological dialogue, we will reach that goal.”

Go here to read the rest. The Orthodox aren’t interested and Rome keeps coming to them hat in hand.

PopeWatch: Unity

I guess that's better than if the Orthodox were interested and we spurned them. But the end result is the same separation.

Stabat Mater dolorosa · Dec 4, 2020

Why is pope Francis so interested in patching tings up with the greeks, when at the same time he's causing a rather horrific rift amongst his own adherents? To patch things up with Pat. Bartholomew seems rather pointless if he loses one fifth of his current communion. Unite us and when you do, go after the broader Christian unity, Francis. This pacamama adulterer has caused tremendous issues amongst catholics. To believe that he, out of all of our popes (past and present), could be able to cause any sort of unity is beyond preposterous imho. Mend your own house first!

Rhamiel · Dec 4, 2020

Michie said:
I thought I was pretty clear. Who is heretical? Catholic or Orthodox?

the Eastern Orthodox churches are currently in schism from the one holy catholic and apostolic Church founded by our Lord outside of which there is no salvation

prodromos · Dec 4, 2020

Rhamiel said:
the Eastern Orthodox churches are currently in schism from the one holy catholic and apostolic Church founded by our Lord outside of which there is no salvation

That is the position of the Catholic Church.
The position of the Orthodox Church is that the Catholic Church is in schism and heresy from the one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

Markie Boy · Dec 5, 2020

Stabat said:
Why is pope Francis so interested in patching tings up with the greeks, when at the same time he's causing a rather horrific rift amongst his own adherents? To patch things up with Pat. Bartholomew seems rather pointless if he loses one fifth of his current communion. Unite us and when you do, go after the broader Christian unity, Francis. This pacamama adulterer has caused tremendous issues amongst catholics. To believe that he, out of all of our popes (past and present), could be able to cause any sort of unity is beyond preposterous imho. Mend your own house first!

Agreed. It would seem he's trying to unite the liberals for the global order.

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