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Ya, JW applied scriptures about greed to gambling which is valid. But there isn't a verses in the Bible that says gambling is wrong/sinful. He didn't quote one verse that said it was.

The word "Gambling" doesn't need to be in the bible, the promoted principles taught therein cover all eventualities of unrighteous behaviour and practices including such practices as gambling. There were numerous BIBLE verses quoted in the articles to clearly demonstrate that Gambling is condemned by God ON PRINCIPLE. It appeals to and promotes greed and selfishness and is unloving and uncaring to others. Completely opposite to the fine principles and qualities for right behaviour that Jehovah, Jesus and the bible promote.

What the Bible Says About Gambling
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201503/bible-say-gambling-sin/

Is Gambling A Sin?

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/is-gambling-a-sin/
 
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Gambling isn’t sinful. Anyone who invests in the market is taking a risk (IRA, 401K, etc.).

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Then maybe you shouldn't invest in the markets.

Luke 12:15
"Then he said to them: “Keep your eyes open and guard against every sort of greed,"

I Timothy 6:9-10. "But those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and harmful desires that plunge men into destruction and ruin. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things,"

1 Timothy 6:8. "So, having food and clothing, we will be content with these things."

The tipping point is temperance. Moving beyond our means and developing an addiction is sinful.

In gambling, your gain is someone else's loss. Even though not addicted, you may be taking from another something they can ill afford to lose, even if they were willing and foolish enough to put it at risk, as in "investing in the markets", that is unloving and uncaring. That would be sin for you.

Mark 12:31. "The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.”

We should never Risk what is ours to gain that which is another's. We should be content with that which is ours and leave others with that which is theirs.

1 Timothy 6:8
. "So, having food and clothing, we will be content with these things."
 
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Then maybe you shouldn't invest in the markets.

I worked in the industry. :)

If I followed your logic I could never accept a job. My gain would be another’s loss. Or a promotion. My advancement would cause someone to lose out who may need the resources more. You could apply the same to numerous examples where we’re chosen above another. School, awards, business deals, etc. The premise is irrational and unbiblical.

Acquiring wealth doesn’t mean you love money. No two have the same aptitude, experiences, or knowledge. Some people are adept at making money, building, creating, and so on.

I make no apology for the Lord’s knitting or prosperity. Everything under the heaven’s belongs to Him. If He destined me to be its steward; no man can take it away or complain.

For if I’m pleasing man, I cannot please God. He comes first.

Yours in His Service,

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I worked in the industry. :)

If I followed your logic I could never accept a job. My gain would be another’s loss. Or a promotion. My advancement would cause someone to lose out who may need the resources more. You could apply the same to numerous examples where we’re chosen above another. School, awards, business deals, etc. The premise is irrational and unbiblical.

None of what you describe here is "Gambling". It does not involve putting up a stake or risking loss to inflict loss on or gain something from another.

Gambling is most certainly condemned by God in the bible. It promotes selfishness, greed and is unloving and uncaring to others.
 
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None of what you describe here is "Gambling". It does not involve putting up a stake or risking loss to inflict loss on or gain something from another.

Gambling: the practice or activity of betting: the practice of risking money or other stakes in a game or bet.

Examples of Gambling:

Playing the lottery and instant win games
Gaming at a casino
Horse and dog racing events
Personal bets
Fantasy sports leagues

Yours in His Service,

~bella
 
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Gambling: the practice or activity of betting: the practice of risking money or other stakes in a game or bet.

Examples of Gambling:

Playing the lottery and instant win games
Gaming at a casino
Horse and dog racing events
Personal bets
Fantasy sports leagues

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Exactly! All of these involve risking the loss of something of yours, money for example, to inflict loss on and to gain something from another. None of which applies to what you said from post #27. See below.

From post #27
"bèlla said:
I worked in the industry. :)

If I followed your logic I could never accept a job. My gain would be another’s loss. Or a promotion. My advancement would cause someone to lose out who may need the resources more. You could apply the same to numerous examples where we’re chosen above another. School, awards, business deals, etc. The premise is irrational and unbiblical."


As I said, gambling is clearly condemned by God in the bible because it involves and promotes selfishness, greed and is unloving to and uncaring of others. Your willing to risk the loss of something to inflict loss and take from another. Quite the opposite of the qualities of self sacrificing love that Jehovah and Jesus demonstrate by example and promote in the bible.

1 Corinthians "Let each one keep seeking, not his own advantage, but that of the other person"

Stay safe and well,
LB
 
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While some Christians might have reservations about working in a casino due to the association with gambling, others may see it as a job like any other. It's essential to consider your own personal convictions and seek guidance through prayer and reflection.
 
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While some Christians might have reservations about working in a casino due to the association with gambling, others may see it as a job like any other. It's essential to consider your own personal convictions and seek guidance through prayer and reflection. Also, have you heard about Korea’s first online private poker hold’em site? It's a great platform for poker enthusiasts. They offer discussions on various aspects of poker, which could be interesting for you given your love for card games. Ultimately, the decision should be based on what feels right for you spiritually and professionally. Consider discussing your concerns with a spiritual advisor or mentor to gain more perspective.
 
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Gambling: the practice or activity of betting: the practice of risking money or other stakes in a game or bet.

Examples of Gambling:

Playing the lottery and instant win games
Gaming at a casino
Horse and dog racing events
Personal bets
Fantasy sports leagues

Yours in His Service,

~bella

The issue is that gambling is inherently exploitative and too often preys upon vulnerable people.
 
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However i am unsure if this type of work is suitable for a christian. Would other christians not approve or would God not approve?
Most people are not christian when it comes to making money. That is why there are so many scams out there.

While the exact phrase "What would Jesus do?" is not found in the Bible, the concept draws from the broader biblical teachings and the example of Jesus. The New Testament, particularly the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), provides insights into Jesus' teachings, actions, and interactions, serving as a foundational resource for those contemplating how to live out their faith.

So the question is: Is this something Jesus would do? I read a book about this once that was pretty good. Even people would wear a bracelet that said: "WWJD". I talk to a pastor once that told me in school people would work in gas station selling cigarettes' and alcohol. I personally feel this is wrong. Their attitude is someone is going to do it. Jesus said let the dead bury the dead. Let those who are are lost in sin corrupt those who want to be a sinner. So the question is do you want to honor God in work and how you make make money or not? Because most people do not honor Him and what they do for a living. Jesus was a carpenter, so He did work and He did make money. Paul was a tent maker. Which is interesting because we are the tabernacle or the body of Christ. We are the tent that God wants do dwell in. So would Jesus be doing what most people are doing for the sake of money? I do not think so but it is a real challenge to honor God in all we do, so are think. It is actually a work of the Holy Spirit of God in us.
 
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Hi Im new to this and just needed advice.
I am currently a student in need of a part time job. I have been offered a job as a table dealer at a casino. It is a very prestige casino which is known for its customer service and presentation. It would look good on my resume. Also i think i would enjoy the work, i love card games and meeting new people, plus it pays well and has good flexibility. However i am unsure if this type of work is suitable for a christian. Would other christians not approve or would God not approve?
I'm thinking most would not approve though I see it as more complicated. The worry that I have is not in dealing cards, or even in customers gaming but it is the atmosphere that you are placed in. There is likely drinking and other negatives that you will be confronted with. Some people are strong and might be less effected. I had a friend that took a job a a bouncer. In a year he was totally downhill in all sorts of ways. I have other friends that do well working at the casinos but these are in small towns and heavily regulated so there is far less temptation. Since I have worked with Christian organizations some, a casino on the resume would not be viewed in any positive light. If i were a Christian employer I might think the same way. It might be wise to just have faith for another job. Here is a scripture that would seem to apply no matter what you choose.
Romans 14:22-23 (NASB77)
22 The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.
 
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Gambling isn’t sinful. Anyone who invests in the market is taking a risk (IRA, 401K, etc.). The tipping point is temperance. Moving beyond our means and developing an addiction is sinful.

Yours in His Service,

~bella
If I may say that there is a difference. In gambling, you create risk that formerly does not exist. If you do not play there is no risk for anyone. In investing in stocks the risk is already created. If you buy or do not buy the stock the risk is still present. Such risk was created the day the company started. Stockholders thus share existing risk they do not create new risk. I know that seems like splitting hairs but this explanation i got in a course kind of stuck with me.
 
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I'm thinking most would not approve though I see it as more complicated. The worry that I have is not in dealing cards, or even in customers gaming but it is the atmosphere that you are placed in. There is likely drinking and other negatives that you will be confronted with. Some people are strong and might be less effected. I had a friend that took a job a a bouncer. In a year he was totally downhill in all sorts of ways. I have other friends that do well working at the casinos but these are in small towns and heavily regulated so there is far less temptation. Since I have worked with Christian organizations some, a casino on the resume would not be viewed in any positive light. If i were a Christian employer I might think the same way. It might be wise to just have faith for another job. Here is a scripture that would seem to apply no matter what you choose.
Romans 14:22-23 (NASB77)
22 The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.

How about less focus on personal purity, and more on the fact that gambling and alcohol literally destroy peoples lives? The second great commandment is to love our neighbors as ourselves.

Sadly, too many Christians essentially have the mind of a reprobate, who only think about themselves, and not wider issues of social responsibility.
 
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For all of you folks that believe a person shouldn't work in a casino because they'd be supporting sin:

Don't buy food from a grocery store that sells any type of alcohol. When you give that store money, you're supporting them buying more alcohol, and therefore you're supporting alcoholism.
Don't buy from a convenience store or any place that sells lottery tickets. When you give that store money, you're supporting gambling, and therefore you're supporting gambling addiction.

Personally, I think if a person wants to work in a casino, more power to 'em.
 
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How about less focus on personal purity, and more on the fact that gambling and alcohol literally destroy peoples lives? The second great commandment is to love our neighbors as ourselves.

Sadly, too many Christians essentially have the mind of a reprobate, who only think about themselves, and not wider issues of social responsibility.
Ok, but I'm curious since fast food destroys more lives than gambling, should we give up working in fast food?
 
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I'm aware of at least one scholar who showed that gambling is detrimental to the local region in many indirect ways.

Yeah, and this demonstrates how utterly stupid some people can be. I happen to live in a small town with a casino. Due to the supposed detrimental effects of the casino upon the local community, the state mandates that the casino must give a certain percentage of its yearly revenue to the county in which it resides. The county must then spend this money on things that help improve the mental health of the local community, like beautifying the downtown area, or putting in a new pickleball court, or getting new playground equipment. But the money can't be used to pay for things that are normally paid for out of the general tax fund.

Now for the first few years there were lots of things that the county government could find to spend that extra money on, but after about ten years there was nothing left to spend it on, so now they have to find some way in which to waste $1.6 million dollars, each and every year. They can't use it to cut taxes, they literally have to waste it on things that people are never, ever going to use.

Ah, the government... isn't it a wonderful thing.
 
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I think it’s more a wisdom decision than anything & don’t necessarily see the harm in it, tho genuine Christians have a long history of rejecting being involved in gambling & I would think it’s better for you to pass on it.
What kind of crowd does it attract?
Would you be able to advance the kingdom?
How might working there influence you?

I think that you’re bothering to ask this question, you know it’s something that’s probably not a wise idea.
 
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