Believe What Exactly?

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It means to trust in him alone as your savior.
You must believe that He is the only begotten Son of God.
2 Peter 1:
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
 
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I have understood it means, believe what Jesus said.
I am not trying to jam you up with that question. The post is really about the essentials
of belief, of which I am presenting the resurrection to be essential.
 
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You must believe that He is the only begotten Son of God.
2 Peter 1:
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
He would have no power to save if he was not.
 
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"we who first trusted in Christ" (in Ephesians 1:12)

I would say this means a person believes in Jesus, by trusting in Jesus who is God's own Son who came to this earth and died for us and rose again on the third day. And the person believes the things he or she is correctly told about Jesus, and all He desires to do with the person. And the person is trusting this, therefore planning to do what God wants, instead of living mainly for one's own self, like the person was doing, in sin.

And Jesus says He sent Paul to turn people "from the power of Satan to God" > in Acts 26:18 < so, this is included.
 
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Mark 16:
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Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.
15
And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

That Jesus truly are the Messiah and that he was risen from the dead?
 
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I would include, as it pertains to us, that we too will be resurrected on the last day.

There is a lot of theology around it all. I don't know exactly what is necessary to know to be saved.
 
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There is a lot of theology around it all. I don't know exactly what is necessary to know to be saved.
Mark 16:
9
Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary
Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.
10 She went and told those who had been with Him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her,
they did not believe.
12
After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as they walked and
went into the country.
13 And they went and told it to the rest, but they did not believe them either.
14. Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.


Belief in the resurrection was essential for the Gospel to go forward.
 
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Mark 16:
9
Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary
Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.
10 She went and told those who had been with Him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her,
they did not believe.
12
After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as they walked and
went into the country.
13 And they went and told it to the rest, but they did not believe them either.
14.
Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.


Belief in the resurrection was essential for the Gospel to go forward.

Of course I agree. Jesus death and resurrection is like the base where the whole Christianity stand.

There are many other questions around theology that are important, but maybe not of salvationary importance: Baptism (infant/believers), the atonement (exactly what was accomplished at the cross/in what way did he bear our sins), our resurrection (how it will happen), what heaven will be like (and where it will be) etc.
 
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So you experience Christ in your heart, and then believe what exactly?
The Word of Your Testimony?
What do you preach to someone who has never heard the Gospel.?

2 Corinthians 11:4. For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached,
or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

1 Peter 3:15. But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense
to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.

Revelation 12:11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
I think that you have to align yourself and your motivations with God's will regarding the Great Commission, and be equipped to deliver the gospel in a clear approachable manner. You really have to get in tune with your 'why'. I'm going to give a little intro into a blog post of mine on this very subject, but being that it was a 6- part series, you can get the rest here:

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations [help the people to learn of Me, believe in Me, and obey My words], baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you…” Mt. 28:19, 20. AMP

Christ left all of us with this ‘Great Commission;’ yet, many of us feel awkward, ill-equipped, or we are afraid that we might fail in our attempt to position someone to enter the kingdom of God. I mean, that would be like failing God, wouldn’t it? Not! God only asks for our best efforts. He takes it from there.

However, it wouldn’t hurt to explore some ways to increase our kingdom efficiency. Obviously, in order to be persuasive, we must be living out our Christian principles to the best of our ability, in order to come from a place of authoritative instruction – leading by example:

“…let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father in heaven.” Mt. 5:16 CSB

“Yet wisdom is vindicated and shown to be right by all her children [by the lifestyle, moral character, and good deeds of her followers].” Lk. 7:35 AMP

Having that wisdom also demands one to be facile with the scriptures, to be able to make their case for the necessity of salvation.

Along with our Christian professing, there must be an outpouring of love for everyone, i.e. all the ‘potentially saved,’ wrapped up in compassion, for the suffering of most of the world in the common human condition. We couple that with our faith in God, to equip us for any task He sets before us – through the Holy Spirit.

This is the [remarkable degree of] confidence which we [as believers are entitled to] have before Him: that if we ask anything according to His will, [that is, consistent with His plan and purpose] He hears us…we [also] know [with settled and absolute knowledge] that we have [granted to us] the requests which we have asked from Him. 1 Jn. 5:14, 15. AMP

You are literally saving lives. You can begin to do so by relating your life changes after having asked Jesus to be the Lord of it.

Finally, just like everything in our relationship with God, we must ask Him in prayer for our direction, to show us which field to plow and where to sow the seed, to fulfill His purpose in us. After all, we cannot accomplish much of anything without His help…

The most trepidation begins when we approach someone outside of church, yes? The best way to create a ‘bond’ is to find a common thread – the weather, conditions in your city, or offering compassion for any stressor the other might divulge, all the while offering solutions and performing acts of kindness.

Once you have established a rhythm, or even the beginnings of a friendship, you might even flat out ask him or her if they are a child of God. A door will open. You can tell them that you are a Christian, how that’s been beneficial, and what one must do to become one.

If they rebuke you, you can repeat back their objection and add, ‘I’ve heard that too, but I found out it wasn’t true.’ Ask them how they think we ‘got here’ on planet Earth, and where do they think we go when we die.’ At that point you can refer to scripture, asking if you can sit with them for a short time and share what you know about God, Jesus and the two types of eternal life – blessed or cursed.

Simultaneously, we can ask Jehovah God in our hearts, which of His words He would have us share in that moment. You only have one goal: to have this person accept Christ as their savior. Any other changes you think should be made, will be between Jesus and this newly saved soul. This is the time where we turn our egos off...

God Bless
 
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I think that you have to align yourself and your motivations with God's will regarding the Great Commission, and be equipped to deliver the gospel in a clear approachable manner. You really have to get in tune with your 'why'. I'm going to give a little intro into a blog post of mine on this very subject, but being that it was a 6- part series, you can get the rest here:

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations [help the people to learn of Me, believe in Me, and obey My words], baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you…” Mt. 28:19, 20. AMP

Christ left all of us with this ‘Great Commission;’ yet, many of us feel awkward, ill-equipped, or we are afraid that we might fail in our attempt to position someone to enter the kingdom of God. I mean, that would be like failing God, wouldn’t it? Not! God only asks for our best efforts. He takes it from there.

However, it wouldn’t hurt to explore some ways to increase our kingdom efficiency. Obviously, in order to be persuasive, we must be living out our Christian principles to the best of our ability, in order to come from a place of authoritative instruction – leading by example:

“…let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father in heaven.” Mt. 5:16 CSB

“Yet wisdom is vindicated and shown to be right by all her children [by the lifestyle, moral character, and good deeds of her followers].” Lk. 7:35 AMP

Having that wisdom also demands one to be facile with the scriptures, to be able to make their case for the necessity of salvation.

Along with our Christian professing, there must be an outpouring of love for everyone, i.e. all the ‘potentially saved,’ wrapped up in compassion, for the suffering of most of the world in the common human condition. We couple that with our faith in God, to equip us for any task He sets before us – through the Holy Spirit.

This is the [remarkable degree of] confidence which we [as believers are entitled to] have before Him: that if we ask anything according to His will, [that is, consistent with His plan and purpose] He hears us…we [also] know [with settled and absolute knowledge] that we have [granted to us] the requests which we have asked from Him. 1 Jn. 5:14, 15. AMP

You are literally saving lives. You can begin to do so by relating your life changes after having asked Jesus to be the Lord of it.

Finally, just like everything in our relationship with God, we must ask Him in prayer for our direction, to show us which field to plow and where to sow the seed, to fulfill His purpose in us. After all, we cannot accomplish much of anything without His help…

The most trepidation begins when we approach someone outside of church, yes? The best way to create a ‘bond’ is to find a common thread – the weather, conditions in your city, or offering compassion for any stressor the other might divulge, all the while offering solutions and performing acts of kindness.

Once you have established a rhythm, or even the beginnings of a friendship, you might even flat out ask him or her if they are a child of God. A door will open. You can tell them that you are a Christian, how that’s been beneficial, and what one must do to become one.

If they rebuke you, you can repeat back their objection and add, ‘I’ve heard that too, but I found out it wasn’t true.’ Ask the how they think we ‘got here’ on planet Earth, and where do they think we go when we die.’ At that point you can refer to scripture, asking if you can sit with them for a short time and share what you know about God, Jesus and the two types of eternal life – blessed or cursed.

Simultaneously, we can ask Jehovah God in our hearts, which of His words He would have us share in that moment. You only have one goal: to have this person accept Christ as their savior. Any other changes you think should be made, will be between Jesus and this newly saved soul. This is the time where we turn our egos off...

God Bless
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Sorry but not the best way I've seen this talked about.

Did we do as He said in Luke 11:13. For its HIM that speaks through us. We can not save anyone. Seen countless fail because they were trying to save someone. Not us.. it was always will be Him and Him alone. So did we pray for a very long time before we share? Do we know why we pray? :) Christ said these signs shall follow..SHALL FOLLOW them that believe. That's clear. So does it? Or do we blame God for something that SHALL follow them that believe?

CHRIST has not changed :) That same Christ is IN YOU that believe. As our brothers Peter and John why look at us as if we did something by our own power. Its FAITH in that name... these signs followed Peter and John why? They had MORE of the sweet sweet Spirit of God? No.. they had FAITH! They just as a child believed Christs words. Christ IN YOU.. you have the mind of Christ.. you have .. man.. get this you have the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD IN YOU! What ever it is.. faith.. speak those things that be not as though they were. ALWAYS make sure it lines up with the word of God.

You have the that same exact LIGHT in you. Not a figure of speech. People see something in you that others don't have. that they don't have and want it. It comes by walking in the spirit.. love as in 1st Cor 13 and the fruits of the spirit. Its always thinking true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. Its putting on the NEW MAN which after God IS IS IS created in righteousness and true holiness.

Wanna see God move? Try to just believe. It is faith that moves Him and pleases Him. Christ in you.. you speak words of life. HAHA its not you! Its HIM! Wow... Christ is your bother.. you best friend. Your savior your GOD! And your DAD..your ABBA is GOD! The only one. THINK ON THESE THINGS FROM ABOVE!

Leave with the song playing right now.. He is ALWAYS on time.. "This is What We Live For...Big Daddy Wave". Perfect song huh.. ooh Father we praise you worship you.. to go where you say GO! To let the whole world know....this is what we live for. If God be lifted up.. there will be light in the darkness <--the song..
 
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Mark 16:
14
Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.
15
And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

The answer is found in John 20:31, which is the foundation of the gospel of the kingdom.
 
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CHRIST has not changed :) That same Christ is IN YOU that believe. As our brothers Peter and John why look at us as if we did something by our own power. Its FAITH in that name... these signs followed Peter and John why? They had MORE of the sweet sweet Spirit of God? No.. they had FAITH!

That is the wrong lesson to draw from Acts 3.

For the lame man, Peter, or rather the Holy spirit, performed that sign, specifically for the nation Israel. Israel as a nation has been lame from birth and rejected the covenant, and they just killed their Messiah.

But the good news, or the gospel that Peter preached to Israel is this, if they were to repent for all those sins, they can look forward to entering the promised kingdom when Jesus returns for them in the 2nd coming, jumping and with great joy, just like this lame man they just witnessed who was also lame from birth.

A beautiful sign for the nation Israel and fits well with what Peter would later preached to Israel in Acts 3:19-21.
 
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Mark 16:
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Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.
15
And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
Believe everything, that's He's the "face" of God, that He proved it by His words and deeds, crowned by the resurrection. He gave us something truly worth believing in.
 
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Read the Gospel of John, it was written specifically to tell people how to have life (Eternal Life), what and who to believe in.

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

^ This. Christ tells us over and over again in the book of John how to obtain Eternal life. It is the most descriptive of all the gospels.
 
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Mark 16:
9
Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary
Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.
10 She went and told those who had been with Him, as they mourned and wept.
11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her,
they did not believe.
12
After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as they walked and
went into the country.
13 And they went and told it to the rest, but they did not believe them either.
14.
Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.


Belief in the resurrection was essential for the Gospel to go forward.


It's essential because the wages of sin is death. If death could hold Jesus, then he wasn't the perfect once for all time sacrifice, and we would indeed still be in our sin... (1 Corinthians 15:14)

The fact death couldn't hold Him and He arose from the dead with the power over death (or the keys as the Apostles put it) thereby means He has the power to set us free from our captivity/bondage and forgive us our sins.

What men cannot do, Christ accomplished and thus HE became Messiah in Truth. Son of God, came down from heaven, died an unjust death and rose again on the third day is essential doctrine for faith in our salvation.

Why? Because anyone can die... only 1 gained power over death itself, through His perfect life making Him the only possible path for our salvation.
 
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Mark 16:
14
Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked
their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who
had seen Him after He had risen.
15
And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
That Jesus is the only means that we have for salvation and acts upon that.
 
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What essentials would you share with someone who has never heard the Gospel?

It depends on the situation, but I think these are the essentials:

"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, Because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim release to the captives, Recovering of sight to the blind, To deliver those who are crushed, And to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord."
Luke 4:18-19

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
 
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