Pennsylvania Judge Again Halts Certification, Finds Mail-In Balloting Likely Violated PAConstitution

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Pennsylvania State Judge Upholds Halt To Certification, Finds Likelihood Mail-In Balloting Procedures Violate PA Constitution: Upholds injunction issued earlier in the week, finds “Petitioners appear to have a viable claim that the mail-in ballot procedures set forth in Act 77 contravene Pa. Const. Article VII Section 14”

Earlier in the week, Judge Patricia McCollough issued a temporary halt to the certification process, and that now is on appeal to the PA Supreme Court. The Judge issued this Opinion to extend that halt pending futher hearings, and to set forth the basis for the injunction, which could be relevant to the appeal:
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The Judge found, among other things, that the plaintiffs were likely to prevail on their PA constitutional claims, and that the matter was not moot even though PA had “certified” the results, because there were more steps to be taken:

"Additionally, Petitioners appear to have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits because Petitioners have asserted the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment. Petitioners appear to have a viable claim that the mail-in ballot procedures set forth in Act 77 contravene Pa. Const. Article VII Section 14 as the plain language of that constitutional provision is at odds with the mail-in provisions of Act 77. Since this presents an issue of law which has already been thoroughly briefed by the parties, this Court can state that Petitioners have a likelihood of success on the merits of its Pennsylvania Constitutional claim."

Here is the court's opinion issued yesterday: http://www.pacourts.us/assets/files/setting-7840/file-10777.pdf
 

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Pennsylvania has already certified the election results . This case is moot
 
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Earlier in the week, Judge Patricia McCollough issued a temporary halt to the certification process, and that now is on appeal to the PA Supreme Court.
How did the PA Supreme Court rule later the same day after she filed this memorandum?
Actually wasn't it a Federal Court of Appeals?
 
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That's a crazy crazy law suit because it is the Republicans essentially suing for something they implemented but I will take it..... since you got take the wins you get when the system is largely stacked against you...

 
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How did the PA Supreme Court rule later the same day after she filed this memorandum?
Actually wasn't it a Federal Court of Appeals?
You appear to be confusing different cases. This is the state court, not the federal court.

The article in the OP says this about the judge's order:
A Pennsylvania state court Judge has issued a preliminary injunction preventing Pennsylvania from taking any further steps to perfect its certification of the election, including but not limited to appointment of electors and transmission of necessary paperwork to the Electoral College, pending further court hearings and rulings. The ruling upholds an injunction from earlier in the week, and is significant because of the findings made in the Opinion released tonight.
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Ed Morrissey points out that an automatic stay pending appeal may apply to the prior order. However, it’s not clear to me whether and how such an automatic stay would apply to this new order. As of this writing, no decisions from the PA Supreme Court have been issued, and no new filings have been made regarding this new order
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That's a crazy crazy law suit because it is the Republicans essentially suing for something they implemented but I will take it..... since you got take the wins you get when the system is largely stacked against you...

How is the system supposedly stacked against the people who made the rules in the first place?
 
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That's a crazy crazy law suit because it is the Republicans essentially suing for something they implemented but I will take it..... since you got take the wins you get when the system is largely stacked against you...

Not exactly. The Governor and Attorney General of Pennsylvania are Democrats. Both the Director of Elections and the Secretary of State were appointed by Democrat governor Tom Wolf.

Hence, the people being accused of perpetrating election fraud here are all Democrats.
 
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You appear to be confusing different cases. This is the state court, not the federal court.

The article in the OP says this about the judge's order:
A Pennsylvania state court Judge has issued a preliminary injunction preventing Pennsylvania from taking any further steps to perfect its certification of the election, including but not limited to appointment of electors and transmission of necessary paperwork to the Electoral College, pending further court hearings and rulings. The ruling upholds an injunction from earlier in the week, and is significant because of the findings made in the Opinion released tonight.
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Ed Morrissey points out that an automatic stay pending appeal may apply to the prior order. However, it’s not clear to me whether and how such an automatic stay would apply to this new order. As of this writing, no decisions from the PA Supreme Court have been issued, and no new filings have been made regarding this new order
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If there is a court in this country that would throw out hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that had been used by honest voters believing those ballots would be counted in effect disenfranchising them then we have truly become a banana republic.
 
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If there is a court in this country that would throw out hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that had been used by honest voters believing those ballots would be counted in effect disenfranchising them then we have truly have become a banana republic.
What would your remedy for election fraud be?
 
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Not exactly. The Governor and Attorney General of Pennsylvania are Democrats. Both the Director of Elections and the Secretary of State were appointed by Democrat governor Tom Wolf.

Hence, the people being accused of perpetrating election fraud here are all Democrats.
Perpetuating electoral fraud? Sorry they are enacting a law passed by the republican legislature in regard to mail in ballots.

Your OP does not describe election fraud. Please stop repeating Donald lies, he is not the messiah, but most definitely a naighty boy.
 
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Not exactly. The Governor and Attorney General of Pennsylvania are Democrats. Both the Director of Elections and the Secretary of State were appointed by Democrat governor Tom Wolf.

Hence, the people being accused of perpetrating election fraud here are all Democrats.

Even better. :)
 
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What would your remedy for election fraud be?
This is not fraud. And the remedy if it is upheld should be to correct it for the next election. Deliberately binning 2.5 million votes made in good faith could be described as election fraud.
 
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This is not fraud. And the remedy if it is upheld should be to correct it for the next election. Deliberately binning 2.5 million votes made in good faith could be described as election fraud.
It is fraud.

Even the governor's own website recognized the limitations of the legislation which was passed by the PA legislature. Don't take my work for it though. Here's what the governor's own website says:
Governor Wolf Signs Historic Election Reform Bill Including New Mail-in Voting

Voters can request to receive applications for mail-in or absentee ballots for all primary, general and special elections held in a given year. Counties will mail applications to voters on the list by the first Monday of each February. Voters who return an application will receive ballots for each election scheduled through the next February. Pennsylvania is the 12th state to provide voters with the automatic option.
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Voters can submit mail-in and absentee ballots until 8:00 p.m. on election day
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Many witnesses have sworn affidavits that both these provisions were extensively violated
 
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It is fraud.

Even the governor's own website recognized the limitations of the legislation which was passed by the PA legislature. Don't take my work for it though. Here's what the governor's own website says:
Governor Wolf Signs Historic Election Reform Bill Including New Mail-in Voting

Voters can request to receive applications for mail-in or absentee ballots for all primary, general and special elections held in a given year. Counties will mail applications to voters on the list by the first Monday of each February. Voters who return an application will receive ballots for each election scheduled through the next February. Pennsylvania is the 12th state to provide voters with the automatic option.
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Voters can submit mail-in and absentee ballots until 8:00 p.m. on election day
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Many witnesses have sworn affidavits that both these provisions were extensively violated
It is not fraud. Please cease and desist from knowingly and deliberately bearing false witness.
 
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It is not fraud. Please cease and desist from knowingly and deliberately bearing false witness.
Soon enough the courts, and/or legislature will take a stance.

Until then, note that no one involved with the litigation is saying there's no fraud ... instead, they're arguing the extent of the fraud ... whether the fraud was extensive enough to warrant overturning election results.

Hope that clarifies sufficiently.
 
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This is not fraud. And the remedy if it is upheld should be to correct it for the next election. Deliberately binning 2.5 million votes made in good faith could be described as election fraud.
Obviously, They don't care if Conservative or the courts commit voter fraud to get Trump elected. And it seems like Trump supporters will do anything to get him elected.
 
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Soon enough the courts, and/or legislature will take a stance.

Until then, note that no one involved with the litigation is saying there's no fraud ... instead, they're arguing the extent of the fraud ... whether the fraud was extensive enough to warrant overturning election results.

Hope that clarifies sufficiently.
We are talking about your OP. This is an issue regarding the procedure in regard to the republicans enacting this legislation, and whether it was constitutional. The case in your OP has nothing to do with electoral fraud, unless the republicans deliberately sabotaged their own bill, in which case yes the republicans committed electoral fraud andbare seeking to benefit from said crime.
 
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We are talking about your OP. This is an issue regarding the procedure in regard to the republicans enacting this legislation, and whether it was constitutional. The case in your OP has nothing to do with electoral fraud, unless the republicans deliberately sabotaged their own bill, in which case yes the republicans committed electoral fraud andbare seeking to benefit from said crime.

Where is this coming from? What case has even been taken to court claiming rep electoral fraud? I think you made that up.
 
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Where is this coming from? What case has even been taken to court claiming rep electoral fraud? I think you made that up.
The OP is about a case challenging whether a law made by republicans in Pennsylvania is constitutional. They are falsely claiming electoral fraud by the democrats? The case has nothing to do with electoral fraud but whether republicans followed proper procedure in passing the law.
 
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