Why Trump Will Win: “Absolutely frightening” evidence of entrenched fraud

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You have evidence...

that all sworn testimony...

is perjury?

"In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right, until someone comes forward and cross-examines".

I'm sure you apply this principle in some areas of life. Why are you so keen to just believe without question that this or that person's interpretation of some data or something they saw etc is somehow unassailable fact?
 
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I agree. Why was there such a problem with Obama wearing a tan suit?

Because money... The media has airtime that needs to be used in order to generate viewers, which in turn generates profits. Making a big deal out of the president is a really quick attention grabber, even if it's something petty, it still causes everyone to look.

...Both left and right media can play off the other, with opposing views, as they both profit. Sometimes, pettier is even better as far as profits go, if it can cause an 'up-in-arms' type stir from the opposing media wing... Like a gift from the right to the left. :)
 
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If direct firsthand eyewitness testimony, sworn under penalty of perjury charges, is "not evidence"...

everyone else's talk is even cheaper
Eyewitness testimony from a layperson who doesn’t understand the procedure saying they saw something in the procedure that looked suspicious isn’t evidence. I’ve read a lot of these affidavits, they are largely people saying that something seemed suspicious or unfair. No eyewitness to actual fraud. And as far as I know, not one of these witnesses has come before a judge or been cross examined.
 
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Like State voter registration data?
Just 2 minutes in and this guy is casting dispersion on something not suspicious at all - people using P.O. Boxes where they receive their mail as their address. There is nothing inherently suspicious about this, people clearly didn’t know they could not use their P.O. Box or thought they’d do it anyway and it was no big deal. P.O. Box would have been put in the field for apartment number, naturally. Not an obvious attempt to disguise. And most importantly, we have no reason to think these aren’t legitimate voters. What’s crazy is that anyone would want to disenfranchise these people of their votes because they had the audacity to use a P.O. Box.
 
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From the "What exactly is 'Kraken'?", files: Why Trump Will Win: “Absolutely frightening” evidence of entrenched fraud.

During his campaign rallies, President Donald Trump proclaimed, "We got 'em all" or "We have it all!" In the coming weeks -- if not days -- Americans will find out specifically what he means.

Those specifics promise to shake Americans to their core by revealing years of entrenched political corruption reflected in electoral fraud.

Lawyer Sidney Powell is providing a preview.
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“My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may -- whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats."
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"Kraken" is not a mythical sea monster but a program the CIA and Defense Department use to get information about the nation's enemies by hacking computers and cellphones.

The program includes various forms of malware, such as viruses, Trojan horses and remote-control systems -- and even was used against ostensible allies.

In 2017, WikiLeaks released numerous CIA documents detailing "Kraken."
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"You have to realize how many forces -- including many in the government -- have benefited from this system. They knew it worked the way it worked, and they used it to install the people they wanted to install in particular offices
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Where is this amazing evidence?? In over 30 lawsuits by Trump, they have all been dismissed for lack of evidence. I can say anything, but you have to prove it in a court of law!! The judge has to see the evidence and so far there has been nothing!! You are just repeating Trump's egotistical rantings! No prove--and though he and his lawyers have claimed fraud---including sweaty Giuliani, they have all said (themselves before the judge) that they have no prove of fraud!
 
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Just 2 minutes in and this guy is casting dispersion on something not suspicious at all - people using P.O. Boxes where they receive their mail as their address. There is nothing inherently suspicious about this, people clearly didn’t know they could not use their P.O. Box or thought they’d do it anyway and it was no big deal. P.O. Box would have been put in the field for apartment number, naturally. Not an obvious attempt to disguise. And most importantly, we have no reason to think these aren’t legitimate voters. What’s crazy is that anyone would want to disenfranchise these people of their votes because they had the audacity to use a P.O. Box.
No, you cannot claim a PO box at the UPS or FedEx store as a legal residence for voting purposes

Nor can you wittingly conceal the PO box number as an "apartment" or "suite" number
 
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Reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling | Spectator USA


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Really becoming crystal clear there is nothing there. The number of huge promises of evidence of fraud, followed by only limited issues in the lawsuits (and even Rudy saying to the judge they are not alleging fraud in the monster PA lawsuit), finally followed by Trump claiming Biden is the one who has to prove he didn't commit fraud (middle school social studies teaches that is backwards) all indicate this has been a crockpot of simmering feces. Trump's own appointee wrote the harshest decision against. I expect this Kraken will see the same end.

I hope the Supreme Court does hear a case because I think that may be what it takes to get people to realize the election fraud claims were false.
 
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I am sorry but Cthulu is not available right now, please leave your name after the beep!

Seriously 100 million tenticle written postal votes and not one electoral vote! I call foul! Forget the Kraken!

Yeah the Demo-clutz only call on inter-dimensional beings when it’s convenient. As soon as Donald wants one, suddenly they don’t exist! Typical.
 
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Seriously man, why do you think this 'proves' there was fraud? Someone points out some data and calls it a 'prime indicator of fraud' - so what? Do you seriously believe that 'proves' something? That it is simply the only possible interpretation of that data? If so, why?

The data does take one to the place or should that it's more likely by the law of probability that there was massive fraud therefore you reject the results.
 
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Massive fraud ? Ok in order to bring a case before the courts you have to have evidence and pretty much all Election fraud court cases have been dismissed for lack of evidence. Accusing is one thing , proving is another . Continually accusing without evidence is called gaslighting and it’s a form of abuse.
 
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And if they side in with Trump's side what will you then realize?
. That America has become a banana republic dictatorship . Trump didn’t get the popular vote and he’s not getting the EC either . The only way he’d win is by coup.
 
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The data does take one to the place or should that it's more likely by the law of probability that there was massive fraud therefore you reject the results.

That's the illusion at work - repeatedly say 'there's something wrong here', keep hyping up the non-existent 'massive' 'bombshell' evidence, and, even when nothing at all is produced, people are left with the lingering notion that 'something isn't right'. This is pretty much the entire MO of Trump's legal team.
 
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. That America has become a banana republic dictatorship . Trump didn’t get the popular vote and he’s not getting the EC either . The only way he’d win is by coup.
So the Supreme Court is only right and just if they agree with you? The other posters stated that if the SC sides against Trump that's the thing it will take to make people realize the fraud claims were false.

So are you saying you people on the other side have your minds totally closed and shut to consider the possibility that you are wrong? It seems some of you want to appeal to others to listen to the voice of the professionals but nope.....not if they disagree with you. Why shouldn't it go both ways??
 
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There is no evidence of fraud otherwise the lower courts would have continued with the cases instead of dismissing it for lack of evidence . They could have asked for extra time to gather more evidence IF they’d had some actual evidence but there is none . Evidence of a few procedural mistakes that doesn’t change the overall results is not fraud . Trumps and his ilk are just gaslighting. The Supreme Court arent going to handle this unless evidence is found that the lower courts are wrong . Currently there’s no chance of this as there’s no evidence for trump’s claims
 
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