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Fine by me... I still do not grasp how peoples perception have anything to do with what is actually going on.
I see that you do not understand how courts of law work. Just because a bunch of idiots make unsupported claims does not mean that the courts will give them any validation. In fact they are doing what they are supposed to do. Throw those cases out of court.
 
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That is sick. I would never accuse you of such a thing, nor would I ever act against this country.

You’ve already accused Democrats of it for attempting a coup for the last four years. An impeachment is not a coup. This election is not a coup.

Short of overthrowing the United States Government, nothing you say or do is going to stop Biden from being inaugurated on January 20th. So it is either treason against your country or having Biden as your president.
 
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Trump has been planning on removing the establishment since he came down the escalator. It's now or never. And the entire world is watching this election debacle. I do not see Trump fading off in to the darkness without attempting to prove there is a coup against him as he stated in the past. I think this is go time.
It sounds like he’s the one engaged in a coup d’etat. Here’s hoping for his total and complete failure.
 
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You’ve already accused Democrats of it for attempting a coup for the last four years. An impeachment is not a coup. This election is not a coup.

Short of overthrowing the United States Government, nothing you say or do is going to stop Biden from being inaugurated on January 20th. So it is either treason against your country or having Biden as your president.

Evidence of Election Fraud

Evidence of Election Fraud

Who Will Be Escorting Trump Out of the White House on Jan 20?

‘Exhibit Q’: Lawyer Lin Wood Submits that Michigan Is Really Minnesota in Failed Pro-Trump Election

There is about 140 references if more is needed.
 
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Fine by me... I still do not grasp how peoples perception have anything to do with what is actually going on.
Grasp this.

What's really going on - no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud".

What's really going on - trump lawsuit in Pennsylvania claiming widespread voter fraud gets thrown out of court because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Pennsylvania".

What's really going on - trump lawsuit in Georgia claiming widespread voter fraud gets thrown out of court because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Georgia".

What's really going on - trump drops lawsuits in Michigan claiming widespread voter fraud because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Michigan".

What's really going on - trump lawsuit in Arizona claiming widespread voter fraud gets thrown out of court because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Arizona".

Personally, what I don't grasp is how 40% of the countries population can be so detached from reality.
 
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Grasp this.

What's really going on - no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud".

What's really going on - trump lawsuit in Pennsylvania claiming widespread voter fraud gets thrown out of court because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Pennsylvania".

What's really going on - trump lawsuit in Georgia claiming widespread voter fraud gets thrown out of court because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Georgia".

What's really going on - trump drops lawsuits in Michigan claiming widespread voter fraud because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Michigan".

What's really going on - trump lawsuit in Arizona claiming widespread voter fraud gets thrown out of court because of lack of evidence.

trump supporter perception - "there's widespread voter fraud in Arizona".

Personally, what I don't grasp is how 40% of the countries population can be so detached from reality.
I see. So now it is obvious that it is not only Republican legislatures and governors that are in the conspiracy. The courts with Trump appointed judges are in on it too:eek:
 
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Exactly. But it was unknown to all parties including Trump and was not even sanctioned by Trump. So undercover is not a stretch. It being a sting operation targeting Biden is a stretch.

This is the story, told among believers in a conspiracy theory no longer allowed to be mentioned around here.

Yet, something seems amiss. It's now nearly a month since the US election took place, and there have been no formal announcements, no arrests, no indictments, nothing that would support the notion that a sting is going on.

Yet again, you seem to continuously ignore the whole coup thing unless claiming it is Trump. US citizens become enemy combatants once they engage against the US.

Internal disagreements about politics and voting results don't qualify US citizens as "enemy combatants". This is the sort of childish fantasy pushed by those who really do wish harm on their political opponents.

And I am not trying to prove this as a fact certain event.

Well, that's a relief. For a while there I though you were engaged in some good faith debating and were willing to provide evidence to support your claims, or the claims of others you've repeated.

There has to be a point of mediation. The democrats cannot be allowed to run a four-year-long coup attempt and just get away with it; after now stealing an election to boot.

Things that are not a coup:

Criticizing an elected leader, even unfairly
Investigating an elected leader
Opposing the agenda of an elected leader
Participating in free and fair elections

Business does not just go back to normal. The democrats do not get to block every legal option and still get into office.

The Trump campaign has every right to seek legal means to challenge the election results, provided it has sufficient warrant and standing to do so. Otherwise it's essentially just issuing very expensive press releases via the courts (and embarrassing itself, and destroying faith in the US electoral process).

The Democrats aren't blocking anything, if you hadn't noticed. So far, there have been 37 significant cases heard before the courts. Of which Republicans/the Trump Campaign could be said to have gained a favourable judgement in 2.

Let that sink in. They're 2 for 37. And neither of those resulted in any changes to the results.

There are ~290 lawsuits still in various stages, although maybe 10 or 12 of them are open and have any relevance. Summaries here: https://healthyelections.org/sites/default/files/2020-11/Post-Election_Litigation_0.pdf

Mediation, the courts, war... I do not know how this has to go down but Biden is NOT getting into office as it stands.

You don't mediate elections. That's not how this works.

If one side decides that the results are illegitimate, they can go to the courts. Barring that, you're moving into civil war territory.

As it stands at the moment, there is insufficient evidence to support any claims that would prevent Joe Biden from being declared president. Unless the Trump Campaign can find something definitive in the way of widespread electoral fraud - far, far in excess of what they've presented at the moment - in the next ~17 days, there's no chance of overturning the results as they stand at the moment.
 
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It sounds like he’s the one engaged in a coup d’etat. Here’s hoping for his total and complete failure.

How does one have a coup over a Oligarchy that was never elected into power, and remains in power thru illicit means and coercion?
 
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This is the story, told among believers in a conspiracy theory no longer allowed to be mentioned around here.

Incorrect. I have already had that conversation with staff, and is why I am still speaking about it. There were embellished falsehoods that were completely fake that I will not mention, but there was an investigation. That is established fact.
 
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If one side decides that the results are illegitimate, they can go to the courts. Barring that, you're moving into civil war territory.

No kidding. Been living it for four years now all of a sudden they want to get in for free and act all is good in the world. Nope.
 
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Who cares about the leaders? This is a populist movement. It is anti-establishment... anti-elite.
To prop up a literal elite. It's sad to see how you've been taken in by this - as it is that you think Trump somehow gives a damn about draining any swamps, rather than augmenting them.
 
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How does one have a coup over a Oligarchy that was never elected into power, and remains in power thru illicit means and coercion?

Again, what oligarchy? You know trump is (or is at least pretending to be) a rich businessman, right? Who nepotistically appoints half his family to actual positions of influence? Open your eyes. Think.
 
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How does one have a coup over a Oligarchy that was never elected into power, and remains in power thru illicit means and coercion?
Well, not the way he’s been going about it. Lucky for us.
 
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Again, what oligarchy? You know trump is (or is at least pretending to be) a rich businessman, right?

We, do not have a Queen. No one in America voted these people into office to be the ruling class. A form of power structure that is formed by s small group of people is an Oligarchy. Good ol boys club. We do not hold to feudalism here neither as if there is some sort of caste system.

Who nepotistically appoints half his family to actual positions of influence? Open your eyes. Think.

I see no issue with that within his own term. I have issues considering people reaming in influence for some 80 years. And then they get so comfortable they actually believe they are the ruling class... passing their crown down to their next generation.
 
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We, do not have a Queen. No one in America voted these people into office to be the ruling class. A form of power structure that is formed by s small group of people is an Oligarchy. Good ol boys club. We do not hold to feudalism here neither as if there is some sort of caste system.



I see no issue with that within his own term. I have issues considering people reaming in influence for some 80 years.

Who didn't vote in what people? What are you even talking about?

Is this waste of mental energy really a simpler course than admitting you screwed up, backed the wrong guy, and should be asking for forgiveness?
 
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Well, not the way he’s been going about it. Lucky for us.

Very telling... yet again we hear Trump was never elected into power, and remains in power through illicit means and coercion? But there is no coup, and people do not attempt illicit means to remove him from office.
 
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