Biden Gives New Hope To Refugees Fleeing Religious Persecution

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As president, Donald Trump slashed refugee admissions to the United States to a record low. Paradoxically, his administration also took major steps to highlight the persecution of religious minorities around the world, a key driver of global refugee movements.

Biden Gives New Hope To Refugees Fleeing Religious Persecution
 

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As president, Donald Trump slashed refugee admissions to the United States to a record low.

America is a great repository of targets for persecution. The best way to keep the greatest number of potential attackers away from the greatest number of potential targets is to reduce or strongly control immigration.

Islamic Attacks on America
 
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America is a great repository of targets for persecution. The best way to keep the greatest number of potential attackers away from the greatest number of potential targets is to reduce or strongly control immigration.

Islamic Attacks on America

No thanks. I'd rather resume normal immigration levels after this period of restriction.
 
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America is a great repository of targets for persecution. The best way to keep the greatest number of potential attackers away from the greatest number of potential targets is to reduce or strongly control immigration.

Islamic Attacks on America
Most of the perpetrators on that list aren't immigrants.
 
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There are other ways you can commit suicide without involving me.

I'd be more concerned about right wing terrorism and violence. But, even in that case, it is relatively easy to have a very low chance of being affected. (Yes, if some terrorist, of whatever flavor, wants to come to my grocery store and shoot it up with a rifle, then there is little I can to to avoid or prevent that, but there are some obvious places to avoid to reduce chances of receiving violence.)
 
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I'd be more concerned about right wing terrorism and violence.
Yeah, if it existed. All of the burning, looting and rioting has been left wing, lately.

Between right-wing terrorists and monsters under the bed you have a lot to be afraid of.
 
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Most of the perpetrators on that list aren't immigrants.

That must be great comfort to you.

2020.06.03 USA New York, NY 0 3 An illegal migrant from Bosnia stabs one police officer and shoots two others while shouting praises to Allah.
2020.05.29 USA Temple Terrace, FL 0 0 A radicalized woman is shot after trying to stab police officers.
2020.05.21 USA Corpus Christi, TX 0 1 A Muslim terrorist opens fire on a navy base, injuring a sailor.
2019.12.06 USA Pensacola, FL 3 8 A Saudi national shoots dead three students at a naval air station.
2019.01.07 USA Fountain Hills, AZ 0 1 A 'lone wolf' ISIS loyalist stabs a police officer.
2018.03.21 USA Travis AFB, CA 0 0 A suicide bomber rams the gate at an Air Force base, but kills only himself.
2018.03.12 USA Palm Beach Gardens, FL 1 2 A recent convert to Islam stabs three people over his religion, including two 13-year-olds.
2018.02.07 USA Tahlequah, OK 0 1 A Muslim yelling 'Allah' stabs a non-Muslim following an argument over religion.
2018.01.30 USA Greenville, SC 0 1 A bomb left on a road by a 'radicalized' convert injures a passerby.
2017.12.22 USA Harrisburg, PA 0 1 A former immigrant from Egypt opens fire on police officers in two attacks.
2017.12.17 USA New York, NY 0 3 A man from Bangladesh tries to blow himself up at a bus terminal.
2017.11.12 USA Bloomington, MN 0 2 An immigrant from Somalia goes on a stabbing spree at a mall, later calling it an answer to the call for Jihad.
2017.10.31 USA New York, NY 8 15 A 'radicalized' migrant runs down eight innocent people on a bike path while praising Allah.
2017.05.19 USA Tampa, FL 2 0 A recent convert shoots two people to death for disrespecting Islam.
2017.04.18 USA Fresno, CA 3 0 Three men are gunned down near a Catholic charity by a convert to Islam yelling praises to Allah.
2017.01.31 USA Denver, CO 1 0 A pastor working as a security guard is shot to death at a transit office "for the pleasure of Allah."
2017.01.06 USA Fort Lauderdale, FL 5 6 A mentally-disturbed convert to Islam guns down five innocents in the baggage claim area of an airport.
2016.11.28 USA Columbus, OH 0 11 A Muslim immigrant goes on a stabbing rampage after expressing his desire to kill infidels.
2016.09.17 USA St. Cloud, MN 0 8 A former refugee goes on a stabbing spree at a shopping mall while speaking of Allah and asking potential victims if they are Muslim.
2016.09.17 USA NYC, NY 0 31 A former asylum seeker plants several explosives, one of which injures twenty-nine innocents. He also shot two policemen two days later.
2016.08.20 USA Roanoke, VA 0 2 A man and woman are stabbed maliciously by a 'radicalized' man yelling praises to Allah.
 
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Yeah, if it existed. All of the burning, looting and rioting has been left wing, lately.

Between right-wing terrorists and monsters under the bed you have a lot to be afraid of.

I'm not afraid of them, or you, or refugees, especially refugees.
 
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What do you mean?

You're talking about how things are, currently. We both agree that things are okay, now. What I'm talking about is how things could become. Let's not import too much of what we do not want to become:

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This thread is about how Biden will supposedly help persecuted Christians by allowing more immigration from places where Christians are persecuted. That's fine, but the math doesn't hold out. To keep the persecution from the persecuted, you must keep the persecutors from their intended victims. America has the greatest lump of Christians, and the highest number of potential victims. If we import more people from nations that persecute Christians, then we are bringing the persecutors and the victims together. The net result will be increased persecution. More people will suffer from reckless immigration than will be saved.
 
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You're talking about how things are, currently. We both agree that things are okay, now. What I'm talking about is how things could become. Let's not import too much of what we do not want to become:

gettyimages-929228544_wide-2c16bc23de62e9a1229d5d40a0a8d79199482896.jpg


This thread is about how Biden will supposedly help persecuted Christians by allowing more immigration from places where Christians are persecuted. That's fine, but the math doesn't hold out. To keep the persecution from the persecuted, you must keep the persecutors from their intended victims. America has the greatest lump of Christians, and the highest number of potential victims. If we import more people from nations that persecute Christians, then we are bringing the persecutors and the victims together. The net result will be increased persecution. More people will suffer from reckless immigration than will be saved.


You know, in all this I forgot the focus of the article on the religiously persecuted and the only group of Muslims that fit that category are in China.

As for your fantasy about protecting Christians here (native or refugees) from attackers, everything said still applies. Frankly other than where Christians are a local minority, I really don't see any widespread persecution of Christians or any group targeting Christians generally.
 
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That must be great comfort to you.
Many in that latest list you posted aren't immigrants and the event listed below never occurred:

2018.01.30 USA Greenville, SC 0 1 A bomb left on a road by a 'radicalized' convert injures a passerby.

Religionofpeace is a garbage site that often posts misleading, deceptive, and in some cases false information. It shouldn't be used as a source for legitimate information.

Immigrants aren't the problem, the biggest threat to the US come from those born and raised on American soil. Of those born in the US, right wing extremists pose the greatest threat.

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You're talking about how things are, currently. We both agree that things are okay, now. What I'm talking about is how things could become. Let's not import too much of what we do not want to become:

gettyimages-929228544_wide-2c16bc23de62e9a1229d5d40a0a8d79199482896.jpg


This thread is about how Biden will supposedly help persecuted Christians by allowing more immigration from places where Christians are persecuted. That's fine, but the math doesn't hold out. To keep the persecution from the persecuted, you must keep the persecutors from their intended victims. America has the greatest lump of Christians, and the highest number of potential victims. If we import more people from nations that persecute Christians, then we are bringing the persecutors and the victims together. The net result will be increased persecution. More people will suffer from reckless immigration than will be saved.
That’s just paranoia. Fear of people who are different from you. Focus on a very minor threat rather than the things that are actually dangerous.
 
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That’s just paranoia. Fear of people who are different from you. Focus on a very minor threat rather than the things that are actually dangerous.

People 'fear' immigrants for the changes they will wreak on one's community. They fear the upset of the established order.
 
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