The fine print on Trump's 'election defense' revels the real reason he refuses to concede

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https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/robert-reich-trump/
That hasn't stopped him from launching an "Official Election Defense Fund" and bombarding his supporters with fundraising appeals to supposedly finance the campaign's ongoing litigation.
But the fine print tells a very different story.

60 percent of a donation to Trump's "Official Election Defense Fund" goes to Save America, Trump's new leadership Political Action Committee that he set up less than a week after the election. The other 40 percent goes to the Republican National Committee.

So if someone donates $500, Trump's PAC gets $300, the RNC gets the other $200, and not a cent actually goes to the election defense fund.
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Not sure what your shocked about. This is a old story.. over a week... 14 days. I do wonder did you search on this or just ran with this one link? Well I did.. and there is more to this story.. you know that right? We believe in Jesus Christ and don't want to mislead anyone <--that I mean from my heart. I think saying "do your own research and never believe just one source right? :)

You know what I like.. to be blunt.. Trump won. Oh they SAY he lost.. yet they can't stop talking about him. Hes still in the news. Every day on the left and mostly on the right. Biden won yet Trump is still getting more press then all the rest. Any press is good press. Keeps president Trump in the news. Not talking about Biden at all..Hmm wonder why. I posted this.. where on 19th he was asked about whats he doing about Covid-19 "why do you people always have to shout" Biden answered. That was the answer.
 
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Not sure what your shocked about. This is a old story.. over a week... 14 days. I do wonder did you search on this or just ran with this one link? Well I did.. and there is more to this story.. you know that right? We believe in Jesus Christ and don't want to mislead anyone <--that I mean from my heart. I think saying "do your own research and never believe just one source right? :)

You know what I like.. to be blunt.. Trump won. Oh they SAY he lost.. yet they can't stop talking about him. Hes still in the news. Every day on the left and mostly on the right. Biden won yet Trump is still getting more press then all the rest. Any press is good press. Keeps president Trump in the news. Not talking about Biden at all..Hmm wonder why. I posted this.. where on 19th he was asked about whats he doing about Covid-19 "why do you people always have to shout" Biden answered. That was the answer.
No, Trump did not win. He lost this election.

If Trump won the election, why has he lost every court case his campaign has brought this far? Where is the evidence?

if you have evidence from reputable sources—not alt-right extremist sites—I would love to see it.
 
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Think about the reasoning behind this piece of fiction that the disgraced Robert Reich penned.

From financial disclosures report in 2019 -

The filings indicate Trump had a minimum revenue of $446 million, with a net worth over $2billion. Robert want people to believe he siphoning off less than 1% of what he made last year for his personal profit?

From last year - he dropped 16 places on Forbes.

If he was money hungry as described - he should have stayed out of office, he would have saved billions.

hislegacy (thought it was good to show the author's economic acumen is rated an F minus by Forbes)
 
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Trump won't concede for the same reason that Biden said that he would not accept.

Biden stated that all votes must be counted before anyone should accept or concede.

Funny..... He accepted before many were in and many are still contested.

Trump will win. The corruption is just below the surface of CNN, MSNBC and other news stations.

If you want the truth.. you have to dig further than these democrat pawns.
 
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Trump won't concede for the same reason that Biden said that he would not accept.

Biden stated that all votes must be counted before anyone should accept or concede.

Funny..... He accepted before many were in and many are still contested.

Trump will win. The corruption is just below the surface of CNN, MSNBC and other news stations.

If you want the truth.. you have to dig further than these democrat pawns.
Other than Georgia, which is doing its second recount, what states are still contested? Pennsylvania and Nevada certified their votes today, Michigan certified their votes yesterday.
 
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Other than Georgia, which is doing its second recount, what states are still contested? Pennsylvania and Nevada certified their votes today, Michigan certified their votes yesterday.
Sorry, I meant that he accepted while many were still not confirmed.
 
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Sorry, I meant that he accepted while many were still not confirmed.
Except Biden never said that he would wait until the ballots were confirmed to announce his victory. He said he would wait until it was independently verified. He waited until after it had been called by AP, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and Fox. That is when most presidents since the 1950s have announced their victory.
 
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Except Biden never said that he would wait until the ballots were confirmed to announce his victory. He said he would wait until it was independently verified. He waited until after it had been called by AP, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and Fox. That is when most presidents since the 1950s have announced their victory.
Your right... but.... he didn't do that.
The news and media do not determine who is elected... Even FOX, which has been the only pro "right" out let... called one state before it was finished...

Even now.. the controversy and evidence is pouring in. We'll see who eats crow.
 
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Your right... but.... he didn't do that.
The news and media do not determine who is elected... Even FOX, which has been the only pro "right" out let... called one state before it was finished...

Wrong. He waited until it was independently verified by the AP and the networks. He never said that he would wait until it was certified by the states. Trump did the same thing, so did Obama and Bush et al.

Even now.. the controversy and evidence is pouring in. We'll see who eats crow.

The evidence at this point tells us that Biden won. If there was evidence supporting Trump his cases wouldn’t keep getting tossed out of court for lack of evidence.
 
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Here is another source of information:

Donations under $8K to Trump ‘election defense’ instead go to president, RNC

But any small-dollar donations from Trump’s grassroots donors won’t be going to legal expenses at all, according to a Reuters review of the legal language in the solicitations.

A donor would have to give more than $8,000 before any money goes to the “recount account” established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show......

The fine print makes clear most of the money will go to other priorities.

A large portion of the money goes to “Save America,” a Trump leadership PAC, or political action committee, set up on Monday, and the Republican National Committee (RNC). Under Federal Election Commission rules, both groups have broad leeway in how they can use the funds.

 
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Wrong. He waited until it was independently verified by the AP and the networks. He never said that he would wait until it was certified by the states. Trump did the same thing, so did Obama and Bush et al.



The evidence at this point tells us that Biden won. If there was evidence supporting Trump his cases wouldn’t keep getting tossed out of court for lack of evidence.
Yes, Trumps cases get tossed out by Democratic judges. This is beneficial to Trumps cause as it moves it from corrupt systems... to the SCOTUS.

IF they were not tossed out.. they could have hung them up for days and delayed the truth enough to cause issues.. However... they didn't do that. In any case like this..it just moves to the next higher court. Bonus for Trumps cause.

Just wait. Sidney Powell has separated from the Trump camp as she is taking up a different path to the same end. While she chases down the fraud behind the Dominion and Smartmatic software that could be hacked easily, change votes and move votes from one candidate to another. She has signed affidavits as evidence in several states. Affidavits that would put the plaintiff in contempt of court and face criminal charges if they are found to be false. She is a very well known and solid lawyer with impeccable integrity... She has stated that this is country wide. This is far from over.

Best any Christian can do...is not pray for Trump... Not pray for Biden.. But pray for the country of the US and it's democratic system which is under attack. Pray for God's will for the country.
 
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Yes, Trumps cases get tossed out by Democratic judges. This is beneficial to Trumps cause as it moves it from corrupt systems... to the SCOTUS.

Do you have proof of this? I know that the judge who ruled in the recent Pennsylvania case is a Republican.

IF they were not tossed out.. they could have hung them up for days and delayed the truth enough to cause issues.. However... they didn't do that. In any case like this..it just moves to the next higher court. Bonus for Trumps cause.

Except these cases do not involve the truth, just false allegation put forward by Trump.

Just wait. Sidney Powell has separated from the Trump camp as she is taking up a different path to the same end. While she chases down the fraud behind the Dominion and Smartmatic software that could be hacked easily, change votes and move votes from one candidate to another. She has signed affidavits as evidence in several states. Affidavits that would put the plaintiff in contempt of court and face criminal charges if they are found to be false. She is a very well known and solid lawyer with impeccable integrity... She has stated that this is country wide. This is far from over.

No, it is over. Joe Biden will be your next President because he, not Trump, won the election.

Best any Christian can do...is not pray for Trump... Not pray for Biden.. But pray for the country of the US and it's democratic system which is under attack. Pray for God's will for the country.

Agreed.
 
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Do you have proof of this? I know that the judge who ruled in the recent Pennsylvania case is a Republican.



Except these cases do not involve the truth, just false allegation put forward by Trump.



No, it is over. Joe Biden will be your next President because he, not Trump, won the election.



Agreed.
Pennsylvania has just blocked the acceptance.


I believe Georgia and/or Arizona. I'll have to check.

As to your statement that the cases don't involve truth. Do you have proof of that? I believe that this is for the court to decide. How can you make that statement? From what I have heard, not on CNN but on NewsNow, OAN, and NewsMax.. who actually report things that others don't... There are hundreds of affidavits. These are from citizens who either had problems voting, votes that didn't make sense, worked for the election process, know the electronic machine and how easy it is to hack.. Your statement that there is no truth will shortly be shown to be false. These people are can be charged with pergury if their allegations are false. Not many people would risk that if they were not certain of their claims.

As for Biden winning. That may be.. Maybe not. Thing is, the left wants no part of checking the votes. Trump, also, got more than 70 million votes. More than he got last time. They got, I think, 15 more seats in the house. How do you get a record number of votes and win seats in the house and not win the election? Considering all the other things that are in the news, this is statistically impossible.

Questions for you. Do you want Biden to win so bad that you dismiss the chance that the election was not pure and true? Do you think that the indignation that people have for Trump should over ride the fact that the majority rules? In that, I simply mean that the anger of a minority is so great that the will of the majority should be disregarded? Or, do you want the winner of the election to be the one that received the most legal and legitimate votes? Shouting that it's over and Biden won... doesn't make it true. Do you realize that if the election is not legitimate, then democracy was not carried out?

One thing is for sure. After watching the people in support of Trump, in the streets, this last week and how peaceful and calm they were. Respectable even. Compared to the riots and burning of the ANTIFA and BLM, I am really really praying for the USA if the court finds that Trump did win. The country will be a mess.
 
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Pennsylvania has just blocked the acceptance.

Actually Pennsylvania didn’t block the acceptance. That was an action by Commonwealth Court. It is on appeal to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. They will hear it on Friday.

I believe Georgia and/or Arizona. I'll have to check.

But you had said that the cases were being thrown out by Democratic judges. Now it sounds like you are limiting that to one or two states.

As to your statement that the cases don't involve truth. Do you have proof of that? I believe that this is for the court to decide. How can you make that statement? From what I have heard, not on CNN but on NewsNow, OAN, and NewsMax.. who actually report things that others don't... There are hundreds of affidavits. These are from citizens who either had problems voting, votes that didn't make sense, worked for the election process, know the electronic machine and how easy it is to hack.. Your statement that there is no truth will shortly be shown to be false. These people are can be charged with pergury if their allegations are false. Not many people would risk that if they were not certain of their claims.

Evidence is supposed to be supplied to a court when a case is brought. The cases were thrown out because insufficient evidence was presented. If there are hundreds of affidavits, where are they?

As for Biden winning. That may be.. Maybe not. Thing is, the left wants no part of checking the votes. Trump, also, got more than 70 million votes. More than he got last time. They got, I think, 15 more seats in the house. How do you get a record number of votes and win seats in the house and not win the election? Considering all the other things that are in the news, this is statistically impossible.

Biden won because he got more popular votes and more electoral votes. Voters often split their ballot, so having Republican wins in the House and a Democratic presidential win is irrelevant. Votes were recounted in Georgia. The result of the recount was the same—Biden won.

Questions for you. Do you want Biden to win so bad that you dismiss the chance that the election was not pure and true? Do you think that the indignation that people have for Trump should over ride the fact that the majority rules? In that, I simply mean that the anger of a minority is so great that the will of the majority should be disregarded? Or, do you want the winner of the election to be the one that received the most legal and legitimate votes? Shouting that it's over and Biden won... doesn't make it true. Do you realize that if the election is not legitimate, then democracy was not carried out?

But the election was legitimate. Trump lost both the popular vote and the electoral vote. Biden won. There have been no significant cases of voter fraud proven. If the evidence of which you speak is out there, where is it?

One thing is for sure. After watching the people in support of Trump, in the streets, this last week and how peaceful and calm they were. Respectable even. Compared to the riots and burning of the ANTIFA and BLM, I am really really praying for the USA if the court finds that Trump did win. The country will be a mess.

I have a friend who is a county commissioner in PA. Trump won his county, but by fewer votes than expected. He has received telephone threats from those peaceful Trump supporters you speak of as have the other two commissioners from people who claim that Trump was cheated out of votes. The county deputies and borough police have been watching his house. Violence and threats are not limited to one side.
 
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Well, we are all entitled to our opinion.

My opinion is that the truth will be unveiled. There is a two pronged force right now. Rudy and his team presenting the many problems with the voting in several states... in order to show that when all the legal votes are counted and the invalid votes are tossed out.. Trump will win enough states to stay President.

Sidney Powell is the other force who is a military lawyer who is capable of trying for treason. She is of fine upstanding character. She is not following the same course as Rudy. She will be proving the fact that the Dominion voting machines along with Smartmatic, were controlled by corrupt people who were attempting to steel the election, destroy the democracy of the US and put in a puppet government to their powers.

These two forces will bring down the corruption in the establishment that has hated Trump as he does not follow their narrative.

You say I'm wrong... Lets see.
 
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