Trump team wins hearings in Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania legislatures on election concerns

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Doesn't seem to be evidence of any fraud, massive or otherwise.
To be fair, there were recorded instances of attempted fraud. But the ones I know of were of people committing fraud to give Trump additional votes.
 
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To be fair, there were recorded instances of attempted fraud. But the ones I know of were of people committing fraud to give Trump additional votes.

That's not fraud, that's patriotism.
 
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They have chosen to do something he personally finds unpalatable. Begin with the unsubstantiated claim of widespread fraud, manipulation, and irregularities, attach that to the unsubstantiated idea hundreds of thousands of votes, a numerical number at least great enough to cost Trump re-election, and one arrives to the notion it is a good idea for the legislatures to investigate the very claims Trump’s lawyers couldn’t provide evidence for in various courts (think about that, a lawyer’s trade is to deal in evidence and courts, shockingly to some, prefer evidence) and triumphantly negate thousands of votes based on this pink unicorns do exist kind of theory and choose electors in the middle of the game for Trump.

That kind of person calls the people under discussion above “weasels.”

You’ve lost me. The so-called weasels were backing out of having any connection with a lot of spurious nonsense about fraud, apparently they are expected by Trump supporters to act as if those claims should be taken seriously, despite the transparent lack of any evidence.
 
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Would you have liked the term 'skunk' better?

In regard to Michigan, reading legislators own statements, it seems clear enough that Giuliani was told there would be hearings. Instead, the legislators backed out of that commitment. Kinda stinky. Know what I mean?

That’s a pretty one sided view. When the President’s personal lawyer is pressuring people working for the state to mislead the public, their options are limited. They can throw out their self respect and go along with the circus, be open about how absurd they think it is, or just quietly hope the crazy people will eventually go away if they nod and smile a lot. The third option is the politically safe one.
 
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Just reported that trump's trip to Pennsylvania to join Rudy at the PA GOP voter fraud meeting has been cancelled:

Trump's trip to join Giuliani at Pennsylvania GOP lawmakers' baseless voter fraud event is cancelled - CNNPolitics

Not surprising. Despite his monumentally flawed personality, Donald Trump isn't blind or stupid. He knows reality can't be denied forever. The election was lost, and nothing can change that.

I'm kinda reminded of Omar Khayyam:

“The moving finger writes, and having writ moves on: nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line, nor all thy tears wash out a word of it".

 
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This is all so sad and pathetic, yet at the same time, enraging.

This sort of thing is not about actually doing anything. If they really thought there was voter fraud, they'd be using law enforcement, they are not; they'd be presenting coherent legal cases to the courts in a timely fashion, they are not. This is solely about sowing distrust of the foundation of our democracy. This should concern you.
I’m pretty sure the OP is just doing his job...
 
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Trump team wins hearings in Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania legislatures on election concerns

"State Legislatures are uniquely qualified and positioned to hold hearings on election irregularities and fraud before electors are chosen," the press release said. "As established in Article 2, Section 1.2 of the United States Constitution, State Legislatures have the sole authority to select their representatives to the Electoral College, providing a critical safeguard against voter fraud and election manipulation."

So in summary then, the Arizona meeting was never scheduled, the Michigan one is cancelled, and the Pennsylvanian one is an informal meeting of some republican senators at a hotel somewhere that Trump wont be attending.

Excellent.
 
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Trump team wins hearings in Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania legislatures on election concerns

"State Legislatures are uniquely qualified and positioned to hold hearings on election irregularities and fraud before electors are chosen," the press release said. "As established in Article 2, Section 1.2 of the United States Constitution, State Legislatures have the sole authority to select their representatives to the Electoral College, providing a critical safeguard against voter fraud and election manipulation."


Well I hope that's right! Thanks for posting. :)
 
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So in summary then, the Arizona meeting was never scheduled, the Michigan one is cancelled, and the Pennsylvanian one is an informal meeting of some republican senators at a hotel somewhere that Trump wont be attending.

Excellent.

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Well I hope that's right! Thanks for posting. :)

Nope - it all fell apart (again). :)

From post #48:

So in summary then, the Arizona meeting was never scheduled, the Michigan one is cancelled, and the Pennsylvanian one is an informal meeting of some republican senators at a hotel somewhere that Trump wont be attending.

OB
 
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