Georgia completes election ballot hand recount!

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Some pretty massive abnormalities still. In a normal election 1% to 3% of mail-in ballots are rejected. This year in ALL of the Battlegrounds, despite millions more people with no experience in mail-in voting doing so, the rejection % dropped ridiculously. This makes no sense unless the counters chose to ignore the rules. Georgia's mail-in ballot rejection rate in 2016 was 6.4%. This year it was 0.2%, 1/32 the rate despite a slew of new first time mail-in voters. Another example is in Pennsylvania this year's rate was 0.03% compared to around 1% in 2016, about 1/30 of the rate in 2016 when the people voting by mail knew the rules better. Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan all saw the same "phenomenon." Had the rates simply matched 2016's, Trump would have won Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and possibly Nevada.
 
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Some pretty massive abnormalities still. In a normal election 1% to 3% of mail-in ballots are rejected. This year in ALL of the Battlegrounds, despite millions more people with no experience in mail-in voting doing so, the rejection % dropped ridiculously. This makes no sense unless the counters chose to ignore the rules. Georgia's mail-in ballot rejection rate in 2016 was 6.4%. This year it was 0.2%, 1/32 the rate despite a slew of new first time mail-in voters. Another example is in Pennsylvania this year's rate was 0.03% compared to around 1% in 2016, about 1/30 of the rate in 2016 when the people voting by mail knew the rules better. Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan all saw the same "phenomenon." Had the rates simply matched 2016's, Trump would have won Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and possibly Nevada.
could that difference in the percentages be explained by the sheer amount of mail in ballots they received this year as opposed the usual amounts mailed in? And the fact that so many people talked about and explained what was required for people's mail in ballots to be accepted in this election? :scratch:
tulc(could hardly turn on the tv without someone explaining how to fill out a mail in ballot correctly)
 
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The so called Russian interference was that they bought some ads on social media that were ineffective.

BTW who was president when Russia invaded Crimea, and did nothing about it?
Obama was president, and:
Imposed sanctions on Russia.
Ended trade talks with Russia.
Excluded Russia from the G8.
Ended military consultations with Russia.
Increased protective military flights to the Baltic nations.
Increased joint training with Poland against Russia.
Stepped up contacts with border nations to reassure them against Russia.
Increased military aid to Ukraine...

Wow, it's a lot.

No wonder Putin didn't want Hillary elected, who had been part of the forceful U.S. response.

I didn't realize how much the Obama administration did in response to Ukraine!

This explains a lot.....

Thanks, you've helped more than you might realize.
 
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Some pretty massive abnormalities still. In a normal election 1% to 3% of mail-in ballots are rejected. This year in ALL of the Battlegrounds, despite millions more people with no experience in mail-in voting doing so, the rejection % dropped ridiculously. This makes no sense unless the counters chose to ignore the rules. Georgia's mail-in ballot rejection rate in 2016 was 6.4%. This year it was 0.2%, 1/32 the rate despite a slew of new first time mail-in voters. Another example is in Pennsylvania this year's rate was 0.03% compared to around 1% in 2016, about 1/30 of the rate in 2016 when the people voting by mail knew the rules better. Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan all saw the same "phenomenon." Had the rates simply matched 2016's, Trump would have won Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and possibly Nevada.

Hi liam H.

Or... it could be that those voting by mail thought it important enough to ask how to do it right because they knew their vote mattered more this year than most. Stacy Abrams has a piece running where she says that not only did they work to 'get out the vote', but they also worked to make sure that people knew 'how' to vote. Maybe other municipalities did the same thing.

I know that when I went to drop my ballot in the box at our local elections office a few weeks before the election, there was a lady there asking me how to do it. Maybe more people asked for and got instruction on how to properly fill out their ballot.

God bless,
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So...other than all the discredited "evidence" that's come out, the only "proof" you have to support your claim is "President Trump/team say they have proof and that's enough for me."? Because I'm not sure that's enough to throw out millions of Americans votes all because President Trump/supporters don't like the results. I'm sorry, but that's kind of how elections work, someone gets more votes than the other person and that person wins the election. And in real life people don't get to cry and demand "do overs!!" just because they don't like the results.
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No. I am just saying that what constitutes as "evidence" depends on one's level of skepticism. What one may consider "undeniable proof", someone else may call "hogwash". But here is some examples of evidence of Michigan fraud.


Reports Of Election Fraud Are Piling Up In Michigan. What’s Going On?

Trump Campaign to the Media: Here's Actual Proof of Voter Fraud, Just as You Asked
 
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I'd be careful if I was going to hold my breath in anticipation of that 'evidence' being forthcoming.

There isn't any great and glorious healthcare plan. There isn't any plan for fixing the nation's infrastructure. There isn't any 'mountains of evidence' to support election fraud or malfeasance. This is just the way Donald Trump thinks. He believes that he can hold out a carrot of hope, without ever having a carrot.

Here's a good story of how much truth matters to Donald Trump. His own butler, Anthony Senecal, who has served the Trump family at Mar-a-Lago since Donald Trump took over the property, tells a story of some painted tile covered in nursery rhymes. He says that Mr. Trump likes to tell people that they were painted personally by Walt Disney himself. When the butler tells Mr. Trump that the story he's telling people isn't true, Trump responds, "Who cares?" Trump knows that it just makes people feel good to think that those tile are hand painted by Walt Disney and it adds value to his life to tell people that. Whether it's true or not really doesn't have any bearing on his telling about them.

That's always been the 'truth' to Donald Trump. Whatever sounds better to make him look more important or, in the case of criminal activities, hides such activity. For Donald Trump, that's what determines truth.

God bless,
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I would argue that there is more evidence of voter fraud than there was evidence of "Russian Collusion". So this could be legit, or just another "Schiff Show". But we will see.
 
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No. I am just saying that what constitutes as "evidence" depends on one's level of skepticism. (snip)
I think I'm going to go with this evidence:
Michigan's state board certifies Biden's win - CNNPolitics
The Michigan State Board of Canvassers voted Monday to certify the state's election results, formally granting President-elect Joe Biden the state's 16 electoral votes -- and all but erasing any pathway for President Donald Trump's to overturn the election results through legal challenges that have been dismissed in key states.
tulc(hopes this helps)
 
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And? Is Chris Christie somehow an authority to the final say? What does he have to do with anything?
Well...he's probably a little more...credible...than "Louder With Crowder" or articles from the Federalist and Townhall.
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Well...he's probably a little more...credible...than "Louder With Crowder" or articles from the Federalist and Townhall.
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Again, "evidence" depends on one's level of skepticism. As you have so proven in your comment.
 
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So let me ask you the same question when atheists demand "evidence " to prove God. What would evidence for election fraud look like?
I suspect it would look like something a court would go "yeah, that looks like proof." what I suspect it wouldn't look like is some talking head on tv at a news conference. If there's proof, take it to court, if, after 30+ attempts to "present irrefutable proof!!" that than is thrown out because it's not considered evidence, I'm going to be a pretty sure it's not "evidence" so much as it's "wishful thinking".
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Again, "evidence" depends on one's level of skepticism.
No, evidence is what the court accepts and it has nothing to do with whether or not you or I are skeptical about it.
As you have so proven in your comment.
Really? Because what I believe is the State of Michigan certified the votes cast in the Nov. 3rd election and said Joe Biden was the winner. which is the link I posted. What you offered was "Louder with Crowder" and two articles by people who aren't the State Of Michigan officials charged with doing this particular job.
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And? Is Chris Christie somehow an authority to the final say? What does he have to do with anything?

Well, he does have a platform and a presence that gets to have the things he says on the national stage. You and I would probably have a hard time getting to speak before the entire nation with our thoughts on this issue, as he get to. That's what he has to do with anything. Just like most of the politicians who get to voice their ideas and opinions on a national platform, he has just as much to do with anything as any of them do.

He's heard as much as Mr. McConnell or Mr. Graham or Mr. Giuliani or Mrs. Powell. The fact that his words may not be agreed upon by some really makes him just as much to do with anything as any of these people and everyone else with a national platform and presence.

God bless,
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I'm sure that's true, but I'm also pretty sure no matter what those EO's were they wouldn't be indifferent to any harm they might cause to people in order to help the bottom line of the 1% portion of America. An assurance utterly lacking in the current Trump in office. :sigh:
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Ridiculous.

A manual recount of 5 million ballots cast in Georgia showed Thursday that Joe Biden won the presidential election, validating initial results.

The recount found that Biden received 12,284 more votes than President Donald Trump.


Georgia manual recount confirms Biden victory

That's such a strong showing for a Democrat, to win Georgia!

Biden has won this election we can see.

And here’s why the recount was bogus because they even cheated during that, as shown by the following excerpt from the lawsuit filed by Sydney Powell:

The audit was conducted O.C.G.A. § 21-2-498. This code section
requires that audits be completed “in public view” and authorizes the State Board of Elections to promulgate regulations to administer an audit “to ensure that collection of validly cast ballots is complete, accurate and trustworthy throughout the audit.”
67.
Plaintiffs can show that Democrat-majority counties provided political
parties and candidates, including the Trump Campaign, no meaningful access or actual opportunity to review and assess the validity of mail-in ballots during the pre-canvassing meetings. While in the audit or recount, they witnessed Trump votes being put into Biden piles.
68.
Non-parties Amanda Coleman and Maria Diedrich are two individuals
who volunteered to serve as designated monitors for the Donald J. Trump Presidential Campaign, Inc. (the "Trump Campaign") on behalf of the Georgia Republican Party (the "Republican Party") at the Hand Recount. (Attached hereto and incorporated herein as Exhibits 2 and 3), respectively, are true and correct copies of (1) the Affidavit of Amanda Coleman in Support of Plaintiffs' Motion for Temporary Restraining Order (the "Coleman
Affidavit"), and (2) the Affidavit of Maria Diedrich in Support of Plaintiffs' 28
Motion for Temporary Restraining Order (the "Diedrich Affidavit"). (See Exh. 11, Coleman Aff.,2; Exh. 12, Diedrich Aff., 2.)
69.
The Affidavits set forth various conduct amounting to federal crimes,
clear improprieties, insufficiencies, and improper handling of ballots by County Officials and their employees that Ms. Coleman and Ms. Diedrich personally observed while monitoring the Hand Recount. (See Exh. 11, Coleman Aff., 3-10; Exh. 12, Diedrich Aff., 4-14.)
70.
As a result of her observations of the Hand Recount as a Republican
Party monitor, Ms. Diedrich declared, "There had been no meaningful way to review or audit any activity" at the Hand Recount. (See Exh. 12, Diedrich Aff.,14.)
71.
As a result of their observations of the Hand Recount as Republican
Party monitors, Ms. Coleman likewise declared, "There was no way to tell if any counting was accurate or if the activity was proper." (See Exh. 12, Coleman Aff.,10).
72.
On Election Day, when the Republican poll watchers were, for a limited
time, present and allowed to observe in various polling locations, they 29

observed and reported numerous instances of election workers failing to follow the statutory mandates relating to two critical requirements, among other issues:
(1) a voter’s right to spoil their mail-in ballot at their polling place on election day and to then vote in-person, and
(2) the ability for voters to vote provisionally on election day when a mail-in ballot has already been received for them, but when they did not cast those mail-in ballots, who sought to vote in person during early voting but was told she already voted; she emphasized that she had not. The clerk told her he would add her manually with no explanation as to who or how someone voted using her name. (Attached hereto as Exh. 13, Aff. Ursula Wolf)
73.
Another observer for the ballot recount testified that “at no time did I
witness any Recounter or individual participate in the recount verifying signatures [on mail-in ballots].” (Attached hereto as Exh. 14, Nicholas Zeher Aff).
74.
In some counties, there was no actual "hand" recounting of the ballots
during the Hand Recount, but rather, County Officials and their employees 30

simply conducted another machine count of the same ballots. (See. Exh. 9, 10). That will not reveal the massive fraud of which plaintiffs complain.
75.
A large number of ballots were identical and likely fraudulent. An
Affiant explains that she observed a batch of utterly pristine ballots:
14. Most of the ballots had already been handled; they had been written on by people, and the edges were worn. They showed obvious use. However, one batch stood out. It was pristine. There was a difference in the texture of the paper - it was if they were intended for absentee use but had not been used for that purposes. There was a difference in the feel.
15. These different ballots included a slight depressed pre-fold so they could be easily folded and unfolded for use in the scanning machines. There were no markings on the ballots to show where they had com~ from, or where they had been processed. These stood out.
16. In my 20 years of experience of handling ballots, I observed that the markings for the candidates on these ballots were unusually uniform, perhaps even with a ballot-marking device. By my estimate in observing these ballots, approximately 98% constituted votes for Joe Biden. I only observed two of these ballots as votes for President Donald J. Trump.” (See Exh. 15 Attached hereto).
76.
The same Affiant further testified specifically to the breach of the chain
of custody of the voting machines the night before the election stating:
we typically receive the machines, the ballot marking devices – on the Friday before the election, with a chain of custody letter to be signed on Sunday, indicating that we had received the machines and the counts on the machines when received, and that the machines have been sealed. In this case, we were asked to sign the chain of custody letter on Sunday, even though the machines were not delivered until 2:00 AM in the morning on Election Day.
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The Milton precinct received its machines at 1:00 AM in the morning on Election Day. This is unacceptable and voting machines should [not] be out of custody prior to an Election Day. Id.
II. EVIDENCE OF FRAUD
A PATTERN SHOWING THE ABSENCE OF MISTAKE
77.
The stunning pattern of the nature and acts of fraud demonstrate an
absence of mistake.
78.
The same Affiant further explained, in sworn testimony, that the
breach included: “when we did receive the machines, they were not sealed or locked, the serial numbers were not what were reflected on the related documentation...” See Id.
79.
An affiant testified that “While in Henry County, I personally
witnessed ballots cast for Donald Trump being placed in the pile for Joseph Biden, I witnessed this happen at table “A”.’ (See Exh. 14, par. 27).
80.
The Affiant further testified, that “when this was brought to Ms. Pitts
attention, it was met with extreme hostility. At no time did I witness any ballot cast for Joseph Biden be placed in the pile for Donald Trump. (See Exh. 14, par. 28).
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81.
Another Affiant in the mail-in ballot and absentee ballot recounting
process, testified in her sworn affidavit, that “on November 16, 2020 ... It was also of particular interest to me to see that signatures were not being verified and there were no corresponding envelopes seen in sight.” (See Exh. 10, at Par. 7).
82.
Yet another Affiant, in the recount process, testified that he received
push back and a lack of any cooperation and was even threatened as if he did something wrong, when he pointed out the failure to follow the rules with the observers while open mail-in ballot re-counting was occurring, stating:
“However, as an observer, I observed that the precinct had twelve (12) counting tables, but only one (1) monitor from the Republican Party. I brought it up to Erica Johnston since the recount rules provided for one (1) monitor from each Party per ten (10) tables or part thereof...”
(See Attached hereto, Exh. 16, Ibrahim Reyes Aff.) 83.
Another Affiant explains a pattern of behavior that is alarming, in his position as an observer in the recount on absentee ballots with barcodes, he testified:
I witnessed two poll workers placing already separated paper machine receipt ballots with barcodes in the Trump tray, placing them in to the Biden tray. I also witnessed the same two poll workers putting the already separated paper receipt ballots in
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the “No Vote” and “Jorgensen” tray, and removing them and putting them inside the Biden tray, They then took out all of the ballots out of the Biden tray and stacked them on the table, writing on the count ballot sheet.
(See Attached hereto, Exh.17, pars. 4-5, Aff. of Consetta Johson). 84.
Another Affiant, a Democrat, testified in his sworn affidavit, that before he was forced to move back to where he could not see, he had in fact seen “absentee ballots for Trump inserted into Biden’s stack, and counted as Biden votes. This occurred a few times”. (See attached hereto, Exh. 18 at Par. 12, Aff. of Carlos Silva).
85.
Yet another Affiant testified about the lack of process and the hostility
only towards the Republican party, which is a violation of the Equal Protection Clause. He testified:
I also observed throughout my three days in Atlanta, not once did anyone verify these ballots. In fact, there was no authentication process in place and no envelopes were observed or allowed to be observed. I saw hostility towards Republican observers but never towards Democrat observers. Both were identified by badges.
(See Id., at pars. 13-14).
86.
Another Affiant explained that his ballot was not only not processed in
accordance with Election law, he witnessed people reviewing his ballot to
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tried to report it to a voter fraud line, he never received any contact or cooperation stating:
“I voted early on October 12 at the precinct at Lynwood Park ... Because of irregularities at the polling location, I called the voter fraud line to ask why persons were discussing my ballot and reviewing it to decide where to place it. When I called the state fraud line, I was directed to a worker in the office of the Secretary of State...”
(See Attached hereto, Exh. 19, Andrea ONeal Aff, at par. 3). 87.
He further testified that when he was an Observer at the Lithonia location, he saw many irregularities, and specifically “saw an auditor sort Biden votes that he collected and sorted into ten ballot stacks, which [the auditor] did not show anyone.” Id. at p. 8.
88.
Another Affiant testified about the use of different paper for ballots,
that would constitute fraud stating:
I noticed that almost all of the ballots I reviewed were for Biden. Many batches went 100% for Biden. I also observed that the watermark on at least 3 ballots were solid gray instead of transparent, leading me to believe the ballot was counterfeit. I challenged this and the Elections Director said it was a legitimate ballot and was due to the use of different printers. Many ballots had markings for Biden only, and no markings on the rest of the ballot.
(See Attached hereto, Exh. 20, Aff of Debra J. Fisher, at pars. 4, 5, 6).
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89.
An Affiant testified, that while at the Audit, ‘While in Henry County,
I personally witnessed ballots cast for Donald Trump being placed in the pile for Joseph Biden. I witnessed this happen at table “A”’. (See attached hereto as Exh. 22, Kevin Peterford, at par. 29). Another Affiant testified, that “I witnessed two poll workers placing already separated paper machine receipt ballots with barcodes in the Trump tray, placing them in to the Biden tray. I also witnessed the same two poll workers putting the already separated paper receipt abllots in the “No Vote” and “Jorgensen” tray, and removing them and putting them inside the Biden tray, They then took out all of the ballots out of the Biden tray and stacked them on the table, writing on the count ballot sheet. (See Exh. 17, Johnson, pars. 4-5).
90.
Another Affiant, a Democrat, testified in his sworn affidavit, before he was forced to move back to where he could not see, he had
in fact seen, “I also saw absentee ballots for Trump inserted
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into Biden’s stack, and counted as Biden votes. This occurred a few times”. (See Exh. 18, Par. 12).
91.
A Republican National Committee monitor in Georgia’s election
recount, Hale Soucie, told an undercover journalist there are individuals counting ballots who have made continuous errors,” writes O’Keefe. Project Veritas, Watch: Latest Project Veritas Video reveals “Multiple Ballots Meant for Trump Went to Biden in Georgia.11
 
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Understand what happened: they focused on election fraud in six big, and corrupt, cities in six swing states, because they’re so big they swung the whole state to Biden.

They used dominion, and Smartmatic and scorecard to steal votes, but when Trump got so many votes it busted the algorithm settings, they stopped counting votes and waited for a massive dump of fake mail in ballots, kicked the poll watchers out so they couldn’t observe them as they counted over 150,000 ballots - and when enough were counted to put Biden in the lead, they restarted the algorithm on the voting machines - to maintain the lead by the % of weighted bias settings in that software program.

Their problem is that counting that many fake Biden ballots at once, put a huge vertical spike in the linear curve on a graph of voting data, making it blatantly obvious that fraud occurred.

Other mistakes they made, as came out in the recent PA hearings, 1.8 million mail in ballots were sent out, but 2.5 million were counted.
 
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