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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.

God didn’t do it to you.

And I’m praying for God to manifest the healing stripes of Jesus, from His atonement, to your back and fibromyalgia.

Here’s some facts about healing and Jesus’ atonement:

A. Healing is the children’s bread; (Matt. 15:22-28)


B. Jesus already healed us by His stripes (1 Peter 2:24;


C. Jesus healed everyone who was sick in fulfillment of Isaiah,’s prophesy that He took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses Matthew 8:16-17, which refers to Isaiah 53:4-5, the Atonement verses.


D. The benefits of God is He forgiveness ALL our sins and heals ALL our diseases Psalm 103:3;


E. many are the afflictions of the righteous but God delivers them out of THEM ALL, (Psalm 34:19)


F. Healing is such a part of His atonement that Jesus healed a paralytic by forgiving his sins. Luke 5:19-26


Notice that James 5, Psalm 103, and Luke 5, link forgiveness of sins with physical healing.

There’s a video series on YouTube called “healing journeys” with testimony of people healed from things like terminal cancer, by learning and standing on the promises of God regarding healing - here’s one of those videos, by the famous John Tesh, healed of terminal cancer.



God bless.
 
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No, not those two. I have cut back on sugar. Now..I had lyme in the 90s. I was given 2 weeks of antibiotics..they now say you need alot more antibiotics. I have searched in depth over lyme symtoms...and I'm not sure if its fibro (even though I've been diagnosed with that) or late stage lyme. I've had multiple lyme test, they are negative..but from my research lyme is hard to detect and cure. I really don't want to be put on long term antibiotics, because they are really hard on the body. My fibro pain is alot better than it used to be! I just have to not over do it, and my pain stays around 1 to 2 on most days (on pain scale)
Try it, just don't eat gluten and don't drink water with fluoride for a few weeks. My pain went away a little after a week. Now when I eat gluten I react 8 days after eating it, others react right away. Some bottled waters contain fluoride so check which water you are drinking. And gluten is in everything, like coffee, juice, salad dressings and vanilla flavoring. Let me know if you have any questions!wish you well!
 
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Some maladies are the result of age, genetics, neglect, and spiritual vexation. When suffering with medical conditions its best to pray against the spirit of infirmity and seek healing and restoration from the Lord. Sometimes fasting is necessary. I was healed from CFS, Fibromyalgia and other ailments. I don't accept disease as a way of life. But that's my perspective on the matter. Others feel differently. :)

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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia should be treated by specialists in Internal Medicine, Rheumatology, and Behavioral Medicine. Most patients require a combination of pain relief, dietary and lifestyle changes. Many require physical therapy and modified exercise routines.

Pain limits mobility and often increases weight which exacerbates the condition and adds greater pressure to the spine. Movement is a must. Low impact options like yoga (including chair and pregnancy yoga), Pilates, walking, and recumbent bikes are best. A sedentary lifestyle will make things worse.

A whole foods anti-inflammatory diet is ideal. Removing refined sugars, flours, and processed food will have immediate benefits. You can reference my post in the fitness forum for more details. I ate this way before the Lord healed me. The only change was bread and baked items. Instant yeast and preservatives aren't good for our body.

Note: I don't follow an anti-inflammatory diet. Seasonal whole food regimens include the items you'd find on an anti-inflammatory plan.

My approach to health is holistic and spiritual. I use natural remedies and address physical challenges in prayer. Allopathic medicine has a place but it isn't my first recourse. I don't subject my body to unnecessary drugs or treatments without seeking alternatives. That's the last course.

Good health exists on multiple planes. Mental and emotional well-being are equally important. They contribute to physical and spiritual problems. Maintaining my quality of life and peace of mind is a must. When my consumption and associations fall outside the parameters I've established my body responds. It's conditioned to a different norm.

Mindfulness isn't a one time thing. It requires vigilance and discipline. You have to take inventory of yourself to gauge what's amiss and start tackling it. The other day I realized I needed to remove rice and potatoes from my diet. I don't eat them often. But whole and ancient grains are best. I'm giving up coffee in the morning for similar reasons. It reduces my appetite and I never eat breakfast. Tea is a wiser compromise. Little tweaks here and there have a positive impact. That's worth the sacrifice.

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. —1 Corinthians 6:19-20

My goal is a good and happy life. There are circumstances out of my control. But I can't complain if I'm part of the problem. I handle the issues within my jurisdiction and leave the other stuff to God.

Yours in His Service,

~bella
 
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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.

neither one - when you received Jesus as your Lord, as well as your Savior, you received the forgiveness for all of your sins that Jesus paid for at the cross almost 2000 years before you were born - before your first sin! by faith in Jesus you have been judged to be righteous and without condemnation before God!

here's a testimony from a lady that also suffered from Fibromyalgia: "Five Years of Fibromyalgia and Constant Pain Instantly Healed - Niki Ochenski":

 
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fibromyalgia is usually caused by a trigger
mine was a car accident on hwy; my car was hit twice

happened shortly after marriage so I was young, slim, and able to work two jobs


took about 3 yrs after accident until a rheumatologist diagnosed me with fibro
finally learned what was going on with my previously perfect body
 
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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.

I quote something off my website, that talks about divine healing, a thing, in which I believe. It talks about what to think if we remain sick after prayer. The quote follows:

"But if you read the bible there is a story of a famous man of God, Elisha, he got sick and died of his sickness, this man had been known to have performed many miracles, yet he himself died sick. But the end of his life was glorious, he was so full of God's power that when he died and was put in a tomb a dead man was thrown in his grave the dead man came alive again and revived. So don't think that just because you are sick God can't use you, God can work powerfully in your life".

Sickness is not an indication of sin, although it can be.
 
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Try it, just don't eat gluten and don't drink water with fluoride for a few weeks. My pain went away a little after a week. Now when I eat gluten I react 8 days after eating it, others react right away. Some bottled waters contain fluoride so check which water you are drinking. And gluten is in everything, like coffee, juice, salad dressings and vanilla flavoring. Let me know if you have any questions!wish you well!
Thanks, sounds like sugar lol...it's in everything. I think years ago when I was diagnosed I was checked for gluten intolerance. Im not 100% sure..I would have to look back at my labs. It was some kind of allergy he checked.
 
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neither one - when you received Jesus as your Lord, as well as your Savior, you received the forgiveness for all of your sins that Jesus paid for at the cross almost 2000 years before you were born - before your first sin! by faith in Jesus you have been judged to be righteous and without condemnation before God!

here's a testimony from a lady that also suffered from Fibromyalgia: "Five Years of Fibromyalgia and Constant Pain Instantly Healed - Niki Ochenski":


Good deal. I also gave her the John Tesh video, healed from terminal cancer, both part of the healing journeys videos.
 
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Physical pain is not the result of sin.

All sickness is the result of sin entering the world, as now the fallen archangel Satan roams the world as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour, and comes to steal, kill, and destroy.

When Jesus healed the sick, He was healing those oppressed by the devil, says scripture.

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Shalom.
 
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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.

Fibro is neither the manifestation of sin or a punishment for sin, neither is any other illness or health concern. It is the consequence of mortality, the side effect of having a body that is beautifully complex (and thus subject to functional imperfections), and the manifestation of physical and mental trauma from a variety of sources, from age to life experiences.

I don’t know your specific struggles or how hard it must be on you, but as somebody who was misdiagnosed with fibromyalgia before finally finding out the real problem was medication-induced MS, I have a frame of reference as to how debilitating unrelenting physical pain really is. Our brain tries to rationalize it and give it a simple cause so we can seek solutions. It is natural. It is a coping mechanism that helps us start processing solutions, solutions bring plans for relief, plans for relief bring us empowerment, empowerment gives us temporary mental peace. The flip-side to that, however, is that when they don’t work or we can’t find a solution it triggers a flare, mental anguish, and stress markers which cause medical setbacks and then the cycle repeats.

Let me assure you... It is a complicated problem that absolutely has nothing at all to do with something you have done wrong. It isn’t a manifestation of moral failure, sin, or a punishment. It is a symptom of life and mortality, nothing more. Seek out your doctor (I had great luck with Gabapentin and a SSRI to manage neuro response), seek out a therapist who specializes in medically-induced crisis response for coping strategies (radical acceptance, cognitive therapy and awareness, DBT therapy were huuuuuuuuge helps for me personally), and seek out a personal support system to remind you that you are an awesome person who just happens to be in charge of a imperfect and flawed, but temporary, mortal vessel. You are loved, supported, and generally spectacular, and almost certainly stronger than you give yourself credit for.
 
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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.


I fully empathize with you. I have 5 heart conditions and extensive, chronic acute (I never think of arthritis as CUTE LOL) arthritis. My doc would love to replace both hips, both knees and my right shoulder. I told them you can 3 weeks before I die!

I do not think I or nayone else can give you a specific answer.

If you are confessed up to date- it is not sin.
Don't worry about unknown sins- God will let you know!
Could be from living in a fallen world and the natural results of living in a body of sin and death or a thousand other possibilities.

While arthritis is such a pain in lots and lots of places- we are called to thank him right where we are at in it! It hasn't eased my pain but has given me a joy in the midst of it!

I would say thank HIm for it, and as Paul did, allow his grace to be sufficient for your weakness and count it joy! You may never be healed from it, but you can be a great testimony for others who have to learn to deal with pain.

I know it is not the answer you may have wished to hear, but I pray for our healing, but I also pray that until God decides to act, to be joyful in all things!
 
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My wife and I have been married over 20 years. Throughout our marriage she has suffered from back pain caused by injuries she is unaware how they happened. She has a broken coccyx, injuries to lower discs and injuries to upper discs just below the neck at the top of the shoulders.

In her early and mid teens treatment was a table that stretched her in quick movements and this appeared to help for periods of time till she needed repeat treatment.

When I met her at the age of 15 or 16 she received an epidural injection that did not appear to help.

In her late teens (after we married) a disciplined regiment of exercise helped [she took karate instructions in shukokai, which I was not in favour of], but by her mid 20s this brought on such acute pain she had to stop. Weight gain became an added issue to the pain. In her mid 20s she had chiropractic treatment that did nothing to relieve the pain, only increasing it after the treatment for a while.

In her mid 30s, after seeing various specialists that did not want to limit her ability [she is incredibly supple, which not even I understand, even now at age 58] a local gp subscribed a pain killer but warned her that, as dependency increased, the comforting effects would wear off, so she only used them on the odd ocassion when the pain became so great she couldn't bear it.

Through her 40s and 50s she has had a couple of falls that have resulted in further and other injuries that have complicated and increased the pain. This is something I had to remind her of. She bagan to regularly use the pain killer but now has been warned that her blood tests warn of life threatening affects if she does not reduce her dependency on the drug. The best action is to stop the medication. She is finding this incredibly difficult but is making every effort to stop using the drug.

Injuries, contagions, allergies are not sin; they merely exist in a world doomed for destruction and ruled by corruption [the Law of sin and death, which is not Moses' Law but has been in existence since the fall of mankind]. Adam's sin brought corruption into the world and made us all slaves of sin; but Jesus has overcome all the works of the wicked one. Remember this. Never stop praying and trusting God for your healing.

I cannot speak for you as I do not know you but my wife has refused healing because of advantages it appears to give her. This sounds terrible to say, but it is true, she has told me on various occasions. Be wary of dependency on your illness due to this.

Your healing is actually paid for through the cross. Think what great things he suffered for you!

It is those who continually trust in The Lord [waiting patiently for him] that renew their strength and see it renewed as the eagles and as the restoration of youth.

Jesus is the answer, no matter what anyone else says. They may have knowledge of suffering and natural helps but obviously have no knowledge of God.
 
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Fibro is neither the manifestation of sin or a punishment for sin, neither is any other illness or health concern. It is the consequence of mortality, the side effect of having a body that is beautifully complex (and thus subject to functional imperfections), and the manifestation of physical and mental trauma from a variety of sources, from age to life experiences.

I don’t know your specific struggles or how hard it must be on you, but as somebody who was misdiagnosed with fibromyalgia before finally finding out the real problem was medication-induced MS, I have a frame of reference as to how debilitating unrelenting physical pain really is. Our brain tries to rationalize it and give it a simple cause so we can seek solutions. It is natural. It is a coping mechanism that helps us start processing solutions, solutions bring plans for relief, plans for relief bring us empowerment, empowerment gives us temporary mental peace. The flip-side to that, however, is that when they don’t work or we can’t find a solution it triggers a flare, mental anguish, and stress markers which cause medical setbacks and then the cycle repeats.

Let me assure you... It is a complicated problem that absolutely has nothing at all to do with something you have done wrong. It isn’t a manifestation of moral failure, sin, or a punishment. It is a symptom of life and mortality, nothing more. Seek out your doctor (I had great luck with Gabapentin and a SSRI to manage neuro response), seek out a therapist who specializes in medically-induced crisis response for coping strategies (radical acceptance, cognitive therapy and awareness, DBT therapy were huuuuuuuuge helps for me personally), and seek out a personal support system to remind you that you are an awesome person who just happens to be in charge of a imperfect and flawed, but temporary, mortal vessel. You are loved, supported, and generally spectacular, and almost certainly stronger than you give yourself credit for.

Thank you so much. You know, I really didn't mention my frequent use of Cipro growing up. I suffered with bladder infections alot since childhood. They stopped around my late 30s. I did alot of research on Cipro and let me tell you, it IS BAD! floroquinolones..(spell?) Same family as levaquin. This drug was made for anthrax treatment years ago...and was given the men in the military. I have told my family many years, its either lyme or cipro damage.
The last time I took Cipro, it have me 3 months of c-diff. Cipro also was shown to change DNA in bovines, in 1 clinical study, and in another one it actually destroyed cartridge and soft tissue in lab animals...I cant remember which ones..I want to say, unfortunately puppies.
I dont usually bring it up, because most doctors and people don't believe in antibiotic damage to the point of disability. My doctor wouod never say yes, and I did not know those antibiotics (floroquinolones) have 2 black box warnings. The death skulls.
I sure wish I could determine and prove it was cipro. I would sue the pants off of them...no one warned me how bad it was, and I trusted my doctor to give me medicine. I was also an RN for almost 10 years. Now when I think about how much levaquin and cipro I give my patients through their IV, it makes me sick. I guess I will stop there....I get on my soap box about drug companies and pushing pills lol.
 
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On a bit of a tangent, though not realy --- was a lot of that possible trouble from what is called "free radicals" ? - things that the body has to defend itself against (anti-oxidants are often used for this purpose) .... THen there's other nutrients similar to or actually the living green foods , building blocks of cells, blood, bone, brain and health overall specifically and in general .... and of course a pretty constant need for clean water , oxygen getting to the cells, and so on all for a strong (or stronger, or rebuilding) body .... ?
 
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No, never really heard of it. :)
This tells all about it:
This is WebMD's take on it.
What Are Inversion Tables?
I've been doing inversion for 20 years and virtually eliminates my backaches due to compressed discs and out-of-alignment vertebra and ribs.
TD:)
 
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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I can sympathize. Because of lumbar damage to my spine, I haven't been able to sit down since January. In fact, I was pretty much bed-ridden 'til April of this year with back issues. I have three very cranky lumbar joints, one of which I blew out when I was in my early thirties. When my back flares up, I'm on the floor and nearly immobile for days, peeing in a bottle - the whole nine yards. Not fun.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Pain, disease and death are all features of a sin-sick world. One of the terrible things about our sin is that its effects can ripple out from our lives to touch others in very damaging ways that we can't anticipate. Adam's sin, for example, touches us all very profoundly to this day.

If you're a born-again child of God, you don't have to ask God to forgive you: He already has forgiven you in Christ, who atoned for all of your sin. If this wasn't true, you wouldn't be saved. It is only because of Christ and his perfect righteousness that God accepts any of us.

Have you ever read 1 John 1:9? Have you noticed the verse doesn't instruct us to plead for God's forgiveness? The apostle John, writing to Christians, tells them only to confess their sin, that is, agree with God that their sin was, in fact, sin. And when that agreement occurs, God applies the cleansing of our sin we obtain in Christ to what we have admitted to God is sin.

What about Matthew 6:12? Doesn't Jesus teach us in the Lord's Prayer to ask for God's forgiveness? Well, when did Jesus make this prayer? Before or after he had atoned for our sin on the cross? And where, after Christ's atoning work at Calvary, are we ever commanded in Scripture as born-again children of God to ask God for forgiveness? Nowhere. Because we already have His forgiveness through our faith in Christ, the Saviour.

God works in us His beautiful character as we live in daily surrender to Him (Romans 6:13; Romans 8:14; Romans 12:1; James 4:7-10; 1 Peter 5:6). Surrender and divine transformation go hand-in-hand. You can't have the latter without the former. Oh, we can work to create our own corrupt human version of the life of Christ, but it will never truly be the work of God, deep, and holy, and joyful, as it is supposed to be.

God's way to inner stability in the midst of pain is to go low before Him, and to wait by faith upon His promise to fill you with Himself as you surrender yourself to His will and way throughout each day. This has been my experience through this last year, especially.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.

Pain - especially chronic pain - is exhausting, physically and mentally.

I was put on to a lower back rehab specialist a while ago whose rehab strategies have really helped a great deal to stabilize my back and reduce my pain. His name is Dr. Stuart McGill. He is world-renowned as a lumbar spine injury researcher, working with world-class athletes of all sorts who have sustained serious lower back injuries and want to return competition. He has a book out I would very highly recommend called "The Back Mechanic." There is a comprehensive self-diagnosis section in it that will help you tailor his rehab strategies to your particular back issue. He also explains how many of the stretches and exercises given to lumbar pain sufferers is actually very bad for them, increasing pain over the long term rather than relieving it. His strategies for relief of back pain come from many years of detailed examination of the tissues and joints of the lower spine in cadavers and of successful rehab work with many thousands of patients. Check his book out! I have, and it has helped a lot.

God's blessings upon you!
 
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I can sympathize. Because of lumbar damage to my spine, I haven't been able to sit down since January. In fact, I was pretty much bed-ridden 'til April of this year with back issues. I have three very cranky lumbar joints, one of which I blew out when I was in my early thirties. When my back flares up, I'm on the floor and nearly immobile for days, peeing in a bottle - the whole nine yards. Not fun.



Pain, disease and death are all features of a sin-sick world. One of the terrible things about our sin is that its effects can ripple out from our lives to touch others in very damaging ways that we can't anticipate. Adam's sin, for example, touches us all very profoundly to this day.

If you're a born-again child of God, you don't have to ask God to forgive you: He already has forgiven you in Christ, who atoned for all of your sin. If this wasn't true, you wouldn't be saved. It is only because of Christ and his perfect righteousness that God accepts any of us.

Have you ever read 1 John 1:9? Have you noticed the verse doesn't instruct us to plead for God's forgiveness? The apostle John, writing to Christians, tells them only to confess their sin, that is, agree with God that their sin was, in fact, sin. And when that agreement occurs, God applies the cleansing of our sin we obtain in Christ to what we have admitted to God is sin.

What about Matthew 6:12? Doesn't Jesus teach us in the Lord's Prayer to ask for God's forgiveness? Well, when did Jesus make this prayer? Before or after he had atoned for our sin on the cross? And where, after Christ's atoning work at Calvary, are we ever commanded in Scripture as born-again children of God to ask God for forgiveness? Nowhere. Because we already have His forgiveness through our faith in Christ, the Saviour.

God works in us His beautiful character as we live in daily surrender to Him (Romans 6:13; Romans 8:14; Romans 12:1; James 4:7-10; 1 Peter 5:6). Surrender and divine transformation go hand-in-hand. You can't have the latter without the former. Oh, we can work to create our own corrupt human version of the life of Christ, but it will never truly be the work of God, deep, and holy, and joyful, as it is supposed to be.

God's way to inner stability in the midst of pain is to go low before Him, and to wait by faith upon His promise to fill you with Himself as you surrender yourself to His will and way throughout each day. This has been my experience through this last year, especially.



Pain - especially chronic pain - is exhausting, physically and mentally.

I was put on to a lower back rehab specialist a while ago whose rehab strategies have really helped a great deal to stabilize my back and reduce my pain. His name is Dr. Stuart McGill. He is world-renowned as a lumbar spine injury researcher, working with world-class athletes of all sorts who have sustained serious lower back injuries and want to return competition. He has a book out I would very highly recommend called "The Back Mechanic." There is a comprehensive self-diagnosis section in it that will help you tailor his rehab strategies to your particular back issue. He also explains how many of the stretches and exercises given to lumbar pain sufferers is actually very bad for them, increasing pain over the long term rather than relieving it. His strategies for relief of back pain come from many years of detailed examination of the tissues and joints of the lower spine in cadavers and of successful rehab work with many thousands of patients. Check his book out! I have, and it has helped a lot.

God's blessings upon you!

Thank you. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Lumbar pain is no joke. My discs in my neck are bulging and 1 is ruptured causing moderate stenosis. Looks kinda bad on mri. I am (or did) see a surgeon for that. We are keeping an eye on it. Hopefully it won't close anymore.
I need to look into some kind of help for my lower back. The problem is I'm pretty broke lol. I live off of disability, so its hard to get treatments that I need.
I'm guessing its going to need surgery before too long, I cant keep having these flare ups. I am pretty much bed bound.
Hope you are doing better.
 
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I have suffered with fibromyalgia since 2010. My back is pretty messed up too..osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. While my fibro is better and controlled, my back still has flares every once in awhile. I've been in mod to severe pain for 8 days now. It's in the lumbar spine area.

I'm jut sitting here thinking...is physical pain brought on from sin more than living in a fallen world? I do ask for forgiveness, and even ask for forgiveness of sins that I might not be aware of.
I am 47, going through premenopause, and physical/emotional pain. I try to stay positive, but in the last few weeks I've been kinda grouchy.

Physical pain can really take a toll on you mentally. If my back doesn't get better in another week, I guess I will request an xray to see if my discs are worse. Right now, I'm resting and im trying not to aggravate it anymore than I have

I was just wondering if it could be sin, or punishment.

What have your doctors said? I had lower-lumbar back surgery 11 years ago because of osteo pinching on the spine. My back is great as long as I do my back exercises daily. I believe that God used the surgeon and physical therapist to improve my health. God receives my praise because of his creative power in using them.

My three kinds of physical pain are the result of Adam and Eve's fall into sin as well as humanity's, not our specific sins. They are part of the curse that God put on our first parents in Genesis 3.
 
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I need to look into some kind of help for my lower back. The problem is I'm pretty broke lol. I live off of disability, so its hard to get treatments that I need.
I'm guessing its going to need surgery before too long, I cant keep having these flare ups. I am pretty much bed bound.
Hope you are doing better.

It is possible to watch on YouTube a number of videos Dr. McGill has put out in which he details some of the exercises and strategies in his book. You may even be able to acquire a copy temporarily through the public library system. Who knows? Maybe there is a cheap second-hand copy on Kijiji or Craigslist or Facebook. I would repeat, though, that after being given all sorts of regimens to follow from various physiotherapists and "back specialists," Dr. McGill's approach has produced, by far, the greatest positive results for me. Many of the exercises I had been instructed by physiotherapists to do were actually contributing to my back issues!

After a long distance phone consultation with Dr. McGill, the strategies and additions to my rehab protocol he suggested have returned me to much greater functionality and far less pain than earlier in the year. So, yes, I am doing better.

Blessings.
 
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physical pain is just physical pain, you had better check out doctor sooner than later, and identify what would be the possible symptom of it and what caused it and what's underlying problem of it.

osteoarthritis, bulging and extruded discs. Those extrusion will ,suppressed, pressed neuron system and that's probably why you experienced pain.

Disc Extrusion- Causes, Symptoms, Treatment
 
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