Christians at odds with each other over the President

Your point that he’s wrong about things. Trump’s demonstrated to be wrong and then he fires the person who disagrees with him because that person pointed out that he was wrong. That’s narcissism writ large! It’s dangerous to have a narcissist be in control of your life. They’ll punish you if you try to minimize the damage they do.

ThisIsMe123 said:

I wasn't sure where to post this, so feel free to relocate it if you will.

Lately, I've seen some Christians from a former singles Christian group post something online on how "I cannot believe how the media and other Christians are disrespecting the President!"

Of course, I was wondering if countless threads about how can a Christian support Trump is beyond, but that's a different conversation altogether.

Anyways, I was like 1. "It's not disrespecting the President, he is just being proven wrong at every corner" 2. How can respect someone that doesn't respect others?

#2, may be some wiggle room there, turn the other cheek and such. But, it makes sense..but #1...if the President is lying and other Christians enable him, then what gives?

I mean, it's to the point of idolatry with this guy in office, considering the merchadise they keep purchasing.

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I doubt that there are many sincere Christians (who put their faith above their politics) that actively *support* Trump... But of course, someone like me would prefer him above Biden because I believe his party to be the lesser of the two evils. I'm not American though, so that doesn't mean much. But to the point of respect, I think there is value in respecting even quite deplorable people, because with the Left and their absolute hatred and vitriol towards Trump, I think a lot of people can start to see that as being quite obviously exaggerated. I see it all the time. People compare him with Hitler, call him a fascist, etc. when, at least to the outside world, it seems like he mostly did fine? Of course there were serious oopsies, like with every president, but it seems like, with Trump, people only focus on what he did wrong. Honestly it seems a bit ungrateful to those of us who live in third world countries with real dictators completely demolishing our countries. While I absolutely despise Trump's personality, if other Christians can respect presidents who are far worse, and Peter could write to the church living under Emperor Nero to honor the king... well... what's your amazing excuse not to?

All world leaders or rulers of nations are a part of the enemy's kingdom. No leader of a nation is in line with Jesus Christ and His good ways. The beast system will one day call for world peace and unity. Nobody will be able to buy or sell without the mark. We are told not to love the world. This includes loving political leaders or political idealogies (i.e. the left or the right).

ThisIsMe123 said:

Of course, I was wondering if countless threads about how can a Christian support Trump is beyond, but that's a different conversation altogether.

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On the contrary, it probably explains a lot of what you are referring to. After four or five years of hearing "How can a Christian support Trump?" these people are probably just reacting in kind. But it is most likely a passing thing and once the election furor dies down, it won't be heard much anymore. Unless, that is, there is a lot of rehashing of the insults coming at them from the other side.

I mean, it's to the point of idolatry with this guy in office, considering the merchadise they keep purchasing.

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It's not "to the point of idolatry."

Try not to overdramatize a tiny matter at the same time as you are decrying the fact that Christians seem to be at each other's throats over politics. Doing the former undermines your other contention.

ThisIsMe123 said:

it's to the point of idolatry

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It is a test from the Almighty. Go back to your first love Jesus Christ of Nazareth. His Kingdom is not of this world. While we are on this world we must do the "will of the Father". Love Him,one another and spread the Good News. If anyone can honestly say they do His Will while maintaining the agenda of Mr. Trump as the "chosen one", I am afraid the Gospel has escaped you. Be blessed.

Maria Billingsley said:

It is a test from the Almighty. Go back to your first love Jesus Christ of Nazareth. His Kingdom is not of this world. While we are on this world we must do the "will of the Father".

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We were talking about a political election, not "idolatry" or anything about the Kingdom or choosing between good and evil, etc.

Albion said:

We were talking about a political election, not "idolatry" or anything about the Kingdom or choosing between good and evil, etc.

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Maybe you need to re-read the OP. Idolatry was specifically mentioned.
Be blessed.

ThisIsMe123 said:

I dislike Trump, not because I'm a democrat or republican. I dislike him because it's common sense not for me not to dislike someone that's an arrogant jerk. In 2015 when he announced himself running for office, I was like "OH, that guy's a numnut, yeah, he won't get my vote" and that was that.

I know people in the real world that's like him that I'd never associate with in social circles.

I wouldn't compare him to Hitler because he's not as smart as Hitler. Sometimes I wonder him being compared to a dictator is hyperbole. Some have said he leans toward more of an authoritarian though.

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You quoted my previous post but didn't really answer it at all? Except the point about Hitler.. again, I find it extremely unflattering and distasteful to even vaguely compare a president that was successfully in charge of the most free, prosperous, and powerful society on earth for four years, to a merciless tyrant psychopath, who was responsible for the most abhorrent moral atrocities that mankind has ever witnessed since Nero.
I cannot stand to listen to Trump. I get physically ill from just watching 5 minutes of him speaking, but still, I recognize that he is not some devil, and that he might even be the lesser of the two evils. That's what I think at least. When I see the Left foaming at the mouth for absolute godless Romans 1 style immorality and iniquity, I realize that both sides need Jesus to an equal extent.

ThisIsMe123 said:

I wasn't sure where to post this, so feel free to relocate it if you will.

Lately, I've seen some Christians from a former singles Christian group post something online on how "I cannot believe how the media and other Christians are disrespecting the President!"

Of course, I was wondering if countless threads about how can a Christian support Trump is beyond, but that's a different conversation altogether.

Anyways, I was like 1. "It's not disrespecting the President, he is just being proven wrong at every corner" 2. How can respect someone that doesn't respect others?

#2, may be some wiggle room there, turn the other cheek and such. But, it makes sense..but #1...if the President is lying and other Christians enable him, then what gives?
I mean, it's to the point of idolatry with this guy in office, considering the merchadise they keep purchasing.

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You do realize he (and all the others in the same field) are politicians, right ?
Point being, there's basically no such thing as good nor honest men in some fields, right, according to Scripture.? i.e. the product, the testimony, the results, of trusting in something of the world, of the flesh, is as God Says, a curse.

When people complained about some leader, I ask them what that leader did that hurt them...
They had no answer at all !? They were apparently, thus, just going along with the emotional or other social (ungodly) wave of the world ...

Maria Billingsley said:

Maybe you need to re-read the OP. Idolatry was specifically mentioned..

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Right. And it shouldn't have been mentioned!!

It does no discussion any good to make wild exaggerations be part of the presentation--and that one was a whopper.

ThisIsMe123 said:

As I said, idolatry wasn't the right word, but more so...a cult following would best describe those that are under a delusion.

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"Cult?" That hardly seems to be any better.

How about we just say that there are some Christian people, both liberals and conservatives, who seem to be placing political loyalties above religious ones.