Jamdoc
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Well yeah, of course, just clarifying since a lot of times that kind of advice is used as "that's the solution, just throw up the blinders and all physical needs just go away"I know that. I didn't say or imply otherwise. Only that, the more you feed your senses those materials, the worse the struggle will become.
It's understandable that he'd feel that way. There's confusion to the subject. Masturbation itself is not in the bible so we don't know if the physical act is in itself a sin. Because we don't know for sure beyond 1 pastor's interpretation or another's it's hard to get an answer. The word of God simply does not address it (and for those others reading who want to throw in Onanism, that had nothing to do with masturbation because Onan had sex, he just pulled out to prevent pregnancy, it was for that attitude of not obeying God to give his deceased brother an heir that he was killed, there is no "wasting seed" when it's something produced by the millions every day)I'm well aware of these things. I do understand them. That's why part of my earlier response was asking if he allows himself that relief as needed. But he didn't really answer me.
We do know that lust is a sin, and most times, masturbation as an act, is connected to lust, either through inappropriate contentography or through fantasies. We know for fact that after a person has lusted or used inappropriate contentography and masturbated, they instantly feel guilty. The sudden realization of "oh no what have I just done" sets in the same way as if someone shoplifts an item, or hurts someone in anger, or commits adultery. Or even a night of getting drunk on alcohol, generally results in a morning of regret and promises to never do it again (even if they later fail at that again)
But some things that other people consider to be sin... we do them and feel no guilt from the holy spirit. What then? That other person is SO CONVINCED that it is sin. Like eating pork as a Christian. Before reading the word of God, I never felt like I was doing anything wrong after eating bacon. After reading the word of God, I still felt no guilt because 1 Timothy 4 said no animals are to be refused, and received with thanksgiving. But some people still preach that eating pork is sin... so it can easily cast doubt into your own spiritual state of if this is sin, why don't I feel guilty? Masturbation by itself.. not in the bible, so if not associated with lust which is sin, and if we're not convicted by just the physical act itself, but other people say it is sin, and we have no clear answer from God.. how are we to address it? So.. people will just avoid the subject.
Well, scripture basically just says get married, if you have a wet dream you're unclean and have to bathe, or... gouge out your eyes and cut off your hands if you want to go real hardcore and literal about it.Best to ask God then And delve into His word for wisdom and direction. There have been some really good replies with Scripture in this thread.
On the flip side, to be perfectly honest, it never helps to get advice about self control of sexual topics from married men. They mean well, but they have a lawful outlet.
Oh.. we do, it's just the longer you go without release, the rebuking relief doesn't last for very long. It's like your house is on fire and you're trying to blow away the smoke creeping into the room. You can blow away the smoke for a bit, but then it comes right back and in greater volume. You bang on the rusted shut window trying to ask God to let you out, but the glass won't break and the window won't open and you're trapped. That's the feeling of it.You need to rebuke those thoughts and get your mind back under your own control. Urges are normal and natural, but if you literally cannot control your thoughts, you might want to seek help from a professional.
Feels like you either get married so the wife doesn't let the house catch fire, or you get your final escape from the burning house when you leave the body.
It's certainly not the best means of developing a relationship that should be about sharing love with another person. Because that makes it about a selfish biological need.Paul gave a lot of advice and opinion throughout his writings. Much of it was dependent on the time, culture, and person/church to which he was speaking. Saying "It is better to marry than to burn with lust" doesn't mean "if you're addicted to inappropriate content and can't stop masturbating, just get married". It means that between the two options, marriage is better. Which is pretty obvious Not that you should rush from one to the other, like it's a suitable replacement.
It is what Paul advised though...
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