How do I defeat constant sexual temptation?

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I know that. I didn't say or imply otherwise. Only that, the more you feed your senses those materials, the worse the struggle will become.
Well yeah, of course, just clarifying since a lot of times that kind of advice is used as "that's the solution, just throw up the blinders and all physical needs just go away"

I'm well aware of these things. I do understand them. That's why part of my earlier response was asking if he allows himself that relief as needed. But he didn't really answer me.
It's understandable that he'd feel that way. There's confusion to the subject. Masturbation itself is not in the bible so we don't know if the physical act is in itself a sin. Because we don't know for sure beyond 1 pastor's interpretation or another's it's hard to get an answer. The word of God simply does not address it (and for those others reading who want to throw in Onanism, that had nothing to do with masturbation because Onan had sex, he just pulled out to prevent pregnancy, it was for that attitude of not obeying God to give his deceased brother an heir that he was killed, there is no "wasting seed" when it's something produced by the millions every day)
We do know that lust is a sin, and most times, masturbation as an act, is connected to lust, either through inappropriate contentography or through fantasies. We know for fact that after a person has lusted or used inappropriate contentography and masturbated, they instantly feel guilty. The sudden realization of "oh no what have I just done" sets in the same way as if someone shoplifts an item, or hurts someone in anger, or commits adultery. Or even a night of getting drunk on alcohol, generally results in a morning of regret and promises to never do it again (even if they later fail at that again)
But some things that other people consider to be sin... we do them and feel no guilt from the holy spirit. What then? That other person is SO CONVINCED that it is sin. Like eating pork as a Christian. Before reading the word of God, I never felt like I was doing anything wrong after eating bacon. After reading the word of God, I still felt no guilt because 1 Timothy 4 said no animals are to be refused, and received with thanksgiving. But some people still preach that eating pork is sin... so it can easily cast doubt into your own spiritual state of if this is sin, why don't I feel guilty? Masturbation by itself.. not in the bible, so if not associated with lust which is sin, and if we're not convicted by just the physical act itself, but other people say it is sin, and we have no clear answer from God.. how are we to address it? So.. people will just avoid the subject.

Best to ask God then :) And delve into His word for wisdom and direction. There have been some really good replies with Scripture in this thread.
Well, scripture basically just says get married, if you have a wet dream you're unclean and have to bathe, or... gouge out your eyes and cut off your hands if you want to go real hardcore and literal about it.
On the flip side, to be perfectly honest, it never helps to get advice about self control of sexual topics from married men. They mean well, but they have a lawful outlet.

You need to rebuke those thoughts and get your mind back under your own control. Urges are normal and natural, but if you literally cannot control your thoughts, you might want to seek help from a professional.
Oh.. we do, it's just the longer you go without release, the rebuking relief doesn't last for very long. It's like your house is on fire and you're trying to blow away the smoke creeping into the room. You can blow away the smoke for a bit, but then it comes right back and in greater volume. You bang on the rusted shut window trying to ask God to let you out, but the glass won't break and the window won't open and you're trapped. That's the feeling of it.
Feels like you either get married so the wife doesn't let the house catch fire, or you get your final escape from the burning house when you leave the body.

Paul gave a lot of advice and opinion throughout his writings. Much of it was dependent on the time, culture, and person/church to which he was speaking. Saying "It is better to marry than to burn with lust" doesn't mean "if you're addicted to inappropriate content and can't stop masturbating, just get married". It means that between the two options, marriage is better. Which is pretty obvious :D Not that you should rush from one to the other, like it's a suitable replacement.
It's certainly not the best means of developing a relationship that should be about sharing love with another person. Because that makes it about a selfish biological need.
It is what Paul advised though...
 
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I am constantly tempted sexually. I pray to the Lord in Jesus name that He take this temptation away from me at least a time... but it never leaves.

Any advice?


You should start doing things that will make the Holy spirit's presence in you produce more fruits e.g read your Bible more often, love, be kind, be patient, obey God, believe, have faith, put your hope and trust in God to help you overcome, confess your victory etc
 
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I am constantly tempted sexually. I pray to the Lord in Jesus name that He take this temptation away from me at least a time... but it never leaves.

Any advice?

The "trick" is, it's not about how you put your effort in quiting it. It's all about how you can improve your faith and keep closer to God. Your direction is thus to improve your faith and to keep closer to God. How to do so is different from person to person. The basis is to find a good church suiting you to stay more time with brothers and sisters. Attending Sunday services all the times, study Bible all the times better with Sunday schools. I think that this is fundamental and common to everyone. Other than these, each individual may have his/her way of building a good relationship with Jesus. So you pray to figure out the way how to achieve.

Pray for you.

God Bless.
 
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I am constantly tempted sexually. I pray to the Lord in Jesus name that He take this temptation away from me at least a time... but it never leaves.

Any advice?
CodyJess, My name is Johnny. That profile photo is me so I'm not going to hide from you. I have gone through the same challenges and battles on this same issue all my life so I am going to tell you just how it is with me. Oh yeah, The battle continues on, only, I don't face it alone. I walk every day through it with the Holy Spirit and in prayer as well.

When I am in public, I am always aware of all the beautiful women around me. Society and the great deceiver tells me it's only human and it is, we are men right? But my sin's has perverted my mind and the way I think and now, it always will. Satan, the great deceiver will tell me it's just the way I am and it's ok.

inappropriate contentography!!!! Messed every thing up for me and anybody who dabbles in inappropriate contentography is not exempt from that. Every woman I am in relationship with, sexuality is on the for front and of course, the images in my mind of what we could do with one-another take presence over what we actually do share with one-another. I became a prisoner to the inappropriate contentographic stuff in my mind. I can't tell you how many times I got rid of inappropriate content material and swear to never again indulge but guess what. And, it effects the way I look at every woman. Their is nothing I could do.

With the help of GOD however I have HOPE, through Jesus. I change how I pray. I ask God to help me see within my heart what I really am. I ask Him to help me DIE to my flesh every moment and help me not to chase after the pleasures of my flesh and that I could live by His Spirit. Jesus Died and was risen so that I could be free of this very sin that separates me from HIM. Please read ROMANS very prayerfully.

The challenges are still there. But walking with God, the Holy spirit is always present in me. I just gave the fight over to him, He is cool with that. Many times through-out the day I see very attractive woman but I am fully conscious of the Holy Spirit that live in me, and I go right to prayer. It is won. Jesus won this battle for me. I never will forget about the sin that can pollute my life and separate me from God.

I will Pray for you CodyJess. Go, Walk with God, Johnny
 
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Well, scripture basically just says get married, if you have a wet dream you're unclean and have to bathe, or... gouge out your eyes and cut off your hands if you want to go real hardcore and literal about it.
On the flip side, to be perfectly honest, it never helps to get advice about self control of sexual topics from married men. They mean well, but they have a lawful outlet.

Paul wrote that it is "better to marry than to burn" but this is not all he wrote on the matter of dealing with strong desires that can move us into sin. I have already laid out in earlier posts in this thread God's way of dealing with all sinful desire/behaviour and His way is not what you've offered above.

I didn't marry 'til I was 39. I know very well, then, what it is to be a single Christian man (for nearly two decades) with a strong sexual impulse. Better than you, I suspect. Unless you're single and nearly forty. So, it's really not the case at all that married men, because they are married, have little help to offer to unmarried men who are struggling with their sexual urges. Quite the opposite in my case, married though I now am.

I wouldn't recommend masturbation as a regular practice, but it is better, I think, to "let off some steam" once a month than to stir about in a constant and spiritually-dangerous preoccupation with one's sexual drive. There is, though, a great risk of growing very self-centered about things sexual when masturbation becomes one's chief means of dealing with one's sexual drive. Masturbation makes sexual activity all about oneself; it is totally oriented toward achieving self-gratification.

Godly sex, sex that shows godly love, seeks the pleasure of the other first, however. A man who has trained himself through masturbation to think only or primarily of himself in the sexual realm will make a very unsatisfying sexual partner for his wife. There is no bigger turn-off for a woman, I think, than to have a husband who is selfish sexually and/or who looks at sex merely as a biological act akin to going to the toilet. He who masturbates often trains himself to think of his wife as a sexual tool, just a means by which he satisfies/relieves himself, which is a very ugly way of thinking about his wife.

Masturbation, too, often engenders an immoral thought-life. If a man can avoid inappropriate content when masturbating, he may still fantasize sexually about a woman he's seen or knows, or he may imagine sexually perverse instances in aid of his masturbation. Again, such fantasizing is highly corrosive to a God-honoring thought-life and forms in the man who indulges in such fantasy a habit of connecting sexual activity to such fantasies. And when he marries, guess what thoughts fill his mind, or compete with his wife for his attention, as he engages in relations with her.

If masturbation is necessary, then, it must be done very sparingly and very carefully.

But, then, these words in Scripture confront us:

Romans 13:12-14 (NASB)
12 The night is almost gone, and the day is near. Therefore let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
13 Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy.
14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.


Paul's advice here isn't for people to touch in relief of the sexual pressure of the flesh, but to make no provision for it, instead "putting on Christ." What does it mean to "put on Christ"? Paul explains:

Galatians 3:27 (NASB)
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Romans 6:3-7 (NASB)
3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection,
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
7 for he who has died is freed from sin.


Ephesians 4:17-24 (NASB)
17 So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind,
18 being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart;
19 and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.
20 But you did not learn Christ in this way,
21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught in Him, just as truth is in Jesus,
22 that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
24 and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth
.

Many Christians, being undiscipled, think what is written above is just a lot of hyper-spiritual gobbledy-gook that has no practical bearing on how the Christian person lives. They certainly have no confidence whatever that what Paul has written really can overcome something as strong as the sexual drive. And so, these same Christians go about trying to find some alternative, something that appeals to their own thinking, to the "old man," who is the source of all their sin. Obviously, the sort of living God wants from His children cannot ever be achieved through the efforts of the "old man." It is in Christ, in the believer's union with Him, that victory over all sin is discovered. But not being schooled in the spiritual truths of the Christian life, many Christians haven't the foggiest idea what this means. And so, there are threads like this one where all sorts of advice is thrown at the problem of sexual sin, but little of it reflecting God's way to freedom from sin and the joy of walking with Him.
 
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Paul wrote that it is "better to marry than to burn" but this is not all he wrote on the matter of dealing with strong desires that can move us into sin. I have already laid out in earlier posts in this thread God's way of dealing with all sinful desire/behaviour and His way is not what you've offered above.

I didn't marry 'til I was 39. I know very well, then, what it is to be a single Christian man (for nearly two decades) with a strong sexual impulse. Better than you, I suspect. Unless you're single and nearly forty. So, it's really not the case at all that married men, because they are married, have little help to offer to unmarried men who are struggling with their sexual urges. Quite the opposite in my case, married though I now am.

I wouldn't recommend masturbation as a regular practice, but it is better, I think, to "let off some steam" once a month than to stir about in a constant and spiritually-dangerous preoccupation with one's sexual drive. There is, though, a great risk of growing very self-centered about things sexual when masturbation becomes one's chief means of dealing with one's sexual drive. Masturbation makes sexual activity all about oneself; it is totally oriented toward achieving self-gratification.

Godly sex, sex that shows godly love, seeks the pleasure of the other first, however. A man who has trained himself through masturbation to think only or primarily of himself in the sexual realm will make a very unsatisfying sexual partner for his wife. There is no bigger turn-off for a woman, I think, than to have a husband who is selfish sexually and/or who looks at sex merely as a biological act akin to going to the toilet. He who masturbates often trains himself to think of his wife as a sexual tool, just a means by which he satisfies/relieves himself, which is a very ugly way of thinking about his wife. But, this is the sort of thinking that masturbation fosters.

Masturbation, too, often engenders an immoral thought-life. If a man can avoid inappropriate content when masturbating, he may still fantasize sexually about a woman he's seen or knows, or he may imagine sexually perverse instances in aid of his masturbation. Again, such fantasizing is highly corrosive to a God-honoring thought-life and forms in the man who indulges in such fantasy a habit of connecting sexual activity to such fantasies. And when he marries, guess what thoughts fill his mind, or compete with his wife for his attention, as he engages in relations with her.

If masturbation is necessary, then, it must be done very sparingly and very carefully.

But, then, these words in Scripture confront us:

Romans 13:12-14 (NASB)
12 The night is almost gone, and the day is near. Therefore let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
13 Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy.
14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.


Paul's advice here isn't for people to touch in relief of the sexual pressure of the flesh, but to make no provision for it, instead "putting on Christ." What does it mean to "put on Christ"? Paul explains:

Galatians 3:27 (NASB)
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Romans 6:3-7 (NASB)
3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection,
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
7 for he who has died is freed from sin.


Ephesians 4:17-24 (NASB)
17 So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind,
18 being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart;
19 and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.
20 But you did not learn Christ in this way,
21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught in Him, just as truth is in Jesus,
22 that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
24 and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth
.

Many Christians, being undiscipled, think what is written above is just a lot of hyper-spiritual gobbledy-gook that has no practical bearing on how the Christian person lives. They certainly have no confidence whatever that what Paul has written really can overcome something as strong as the sexual drive. And so, these same Christians go about trying to find some alternative, something that appeals to their own thinking, to the "old man," who is the source of all their sin. Obviously, the sort of living God wants from His children cannot ever be achieved through the efforts of the "old man." It is in Christ, in the believer's union with Him, that victory over all sin is discovered. But not being schooled in the spiritual truths of the Christian life, many Christians haven't the foggiest idea what this means. And so, there are threads like this one where all sorts of advice is thrown at the problem of sexual sin, but little of it reflecting God's way to freedom from sin and the joy of walking with Him.

Lots of wisdom in this post!
 
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Paul wrote that it is "better to marry than to burn" but this is not all he wrote on the matter of dealing with strong desires that can move us into sin. I have already laid out in earlier posts in this thread God's way of dealing with all sinful desire/behaviour and His way is not what you've offered above.

I didn't marry 'til I was 39. I know very well, then, what it is to be a single Christian man (for nearly two decades) with a strong sexual impulse. Better than you, I suspect. Unless you're single and nearly forty. So, it's really not the case at all that married men, because they are married, have little help to offer to unmarried men who are struggling with their sexual urges. Quite the opposite in my case, married though I now am.
I am 40.
still single
and of course, the butt of a joke that even a movie has been made about.
and... being in the condition I am, disabled with degenerative, disfiguring chronic diseases, I don't think that's changing.... and according to Matthew 22:30, it won't ever change.

I wouldn't recommend masturbation as a regular practice, but it is better, I think, to "let off some steam" once a month than to stir about in a constant and spiritually-dangerous preoccupation with one's sexual drive. There is, though, a great risk of growing very self-centered about things sexual when masturbation becomes one's chief means of dealing with one's sexual drive. Masturbation makes sexual activity all about oneself; it is totally oriented toward achieving self-gratification.

Godly sex, sex that shows godly love, seeks the pleasure of the other first, however. A man who has trained himself through masturbation to think only or primarily of himself in the sexual realm will make a very unsatisfying sexual partner for his wife. There is no bigger turn-off for a woman, I think, than to have a husband who is selfish sexually and/or who looks at sex merely as a biological act akin to going to the toilet. He who masturbates often trains himself to think of his wife as a sexual tool, just a means by which he satisfies/relieves himself, which is a very ugly way of thinking about his wife. But, this is the sort of thinking that masturbation fosters.

Masturbation, too, often engenders an immoral thought-life. If a man can avoid inappropriate content when masturbating, he may still fantasize sexually about a woman he's seen or knows, or he may imagine sexually perverse instances in aid of his masturbation. Again, such fantasizing is highly corrosive to a God-honoring thought-life and forms in the man who indulges in such fantasy a habit of connecting sexual activity to such fantasies. And when he marries, guess what thoughts fill his mind, or compete with his wife for his attention, as he engages in relations with her.

If masturbation is necessary, then, it must be done very sparingly and very carefully.
I don't recommend it either, mostly because while it's not in scripture that masturbation itself is a sin, it is most often connected to sins, and while I can attest that it is possible to do without the connected lust and inappropriate contentography, it's still not the best solution, or Paul would have advised it. You're also right, that it makes sex to be all about us and relieving a biological need. It would deprive your spouse if you just saw sex as a means to scratch an itch.

That said
could you imagine if God had in His word, forbidden scratching itches, I don't mean a euphemism here as I did previously, but like actual skin itches (I was actually just having to use my cane to scratch my back in a spot I can't reach right between the shoulder blades...)
 
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You win over sexual sins by praying, even if it takes years we should insist until it gets done. This is supposed to be the way we christians deal with issues, with prayer.

There is no sins so harmful to our communion with God as sexual sins.

And inappropriate content etc, can create spiritual 'bindings' that doesn't let you quit, we may need deliverance from all this too, i myself passed through this, but deliverance and in this area is not done by churches so we may need ourselves with God to do this.

Anyway some people may claim they quitted by doing something themselves, but most probably we are going to need Gods help, and that we get by praying.
 
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You win over sexual sins by praying, even if it takes years we should insist until it gets done. This is supposed to be the way we christians deal with issues, with prayer.

There is no sins so harmful to our communion with God as sexual sins.

And inappropriate content etc, can create spiritual 'bindings' that doesn't let you quit, we may need deliverance from all this too, i myself passed through this, but deliverance and in this area is not done by churches so we may need ourselves with God to do this.

Anyway some people may claim they quitted by doing something themselves, but most probably we are going to need Gods help, and that we get by praying.
I have yet to have a prayer answered that actually took away a biological need.
It can help keep you from actually sinning to try and alleviate that need, but does it actually take away sex drive or prevent wet dreams? not from my experience.
 
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I have yet to have a prayer answered that actually took away a biological need.
It can help keep you from actually sinning to try and alleviate that need, but does it actually take away sex drive or prevent wet dreams? not from my experience.

But the 'urges' can be controlled with the help of Spirit. Or toned down.
Having too much strong urges is not normal anyway, its because we stimulate it with thoughts and some images that are everywhere we go, if we can change spiritually we can see the urges are not as strong and should be able to be managed. That is what i think anyway.
 
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But the 'urges' can be controlled with the help of Spirit. Or toned down.
Having too much strong urges is not normal anyway, its because we stimulate it with thoughts and some images that are everywhere we go, if we can change spiritually we can see the urges are not as strong and should be able to be managed. That is what i think anyway.
to a degree, but, wet dreams are still a reality of the situation, and until that happens it can be very distracting, to a point of making prayer difficult itself. The second week is hardest, but that's usually when your body will force release on its own.
 
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to a degree, but, wet dreams are still a reality of the situation, and until that happens it can be very distracting, to a point of making prayer difficult itself. The second week is hardest, but that's usually when your body will force release on its own.

Myself i don't see a problem with wet dreams, you are not sinning by having them, i even think the Spirit can give you some (non inappropriate contentographic) 'wet dreams' but erotic and romantic in nature, yes yes controversial stuff etc etc... to alleviate that you don't have a spouse.
 
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We fall, constantly. We get up, constantly and, run to the open arms of God. Again and again.

Never give up on God. No matter how hard it gets.

Satan may win many battles with us but he aint ever going to win the war!

God bless you all
 
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Myself i don't see a problem with wet dreams, you are not sinning by having them, i even think the Spirit can give you some (non inappropriate contentographic) 'wet dreams' but erotic and romantic in nature, yes yes controversial stuff etc etc... to alleviate that you don't have a spouse.
I hate waking up and having to shower in the middle of the night and start laundry in the middle of the night, I can never get back to sleep and the dreams themselves can be embarrassing in nature like "why would my mind think of THAT while doing THAT?", it can be completely non sexual in nature as a dream but utterly embarrassing as the dream may itself involve a family member (as I said, a non sexual dream that it happens during).
I hate them.
But unfortunately, just like praying to not ever be thirsty (something Jesus even promises but.. ultimately is not meant to be in reference to physical thirst..), the biological need doesn't just go away.
 
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I hate waking up and having to shower in the middle of the night and start laundry in the middle of the night, I can never get back to sleep and the dreams themselves can be embarrassing in nature like "why would my mind think of THAT while doing THAT?", it can be completely non sexual in nature as a dream but utterly embarrassing as the dream may itself involve a family member (as I said, a non sexual dream that it happens during).
I hate them.
But unfortunately, just like praying to not ever be thirsty (something Jesus even promises but.. ultimately is not meant to be in reference to physical thirst..), the biological need doesn't just go away.

I guess God is not asking for something impossible, he can give the means to handle sexual desires.
If we change spiritually and don't feed the urges with thoughts etc it gets a lot more manageable i think. Sex desire may be physical but a lot to do with it is spiritual and phsycological obviously.
 
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I guess God is not asking for something impossible, he can give the means to handle sexual desires.
If we change spiritually and don't feed the urges with thoughts etc it gets a lot more manageable i think. Sex desire may be physical but a lot to do with it is spiritual and phsycological obviously.

To a point.
He certainly makes it miserable to obey in that regard though.
Like I said, it's like if the bible expressly forbid you from scratching an itch on your back, and you pray but the itch doesn't actually go away you're just able to not give into the temptation to scratch the itch.
 
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To a point.
He certainly makes it miserable to obey in that regard though.
Like I said, it's like if the bible expressly forbid you from scratching an itch on your back, and you pray but the itch doesn't actually go away you're just able to not give into the temptation to scratch the itch.

I think its a lot better when you beat the sin with the help of God, and don't feel dirty anymore and have better communion with the Holy spirit, i'm aiming for that. Satisfying sexual desires is not worth it in any way if we sin and mess with our communion with God.
And if we can't get a wife... well there is a lot worse things, i think the urges we feel should get as something secondary as we have more interest in the things of God.

I think you said you have some disability, lets say me too, i don't have physical disability but i have autism which is a 'social' disability, a skill too much needed to get a wife. The things of God are much more satisfying and fullfillling and better etc anyway, than just satisfying sexual desires.
 
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